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Industrial Bleach Miracle Cure.

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danydandan
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I think this belongs in this section.

So I was listening to the radio while shopping earlier today and a segment came on regarding these lads. The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing.

They offer a miracle cure consisting entirely of industrial strength bleach, I'm not sure if it's peroxide, chlorine or sulfur based but regardless I'm pretty sure us humans should not be ingesting such things. They claim their brand of bolloxology cures 95% of all known diseases.

The FDA have warned them about using this yet they still sell a kit and are still holding mass healing workshop's all over the US. 

So I need to give a shout out to Fiona O'Leary, a campaigner against pseudo science whose work helped to get MMS (the bleach this church is using) banned in Ireland in 2016. 

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0215/941028-bleach/ 

Some of her good work. In the link.

Now I can't seem to find any articles from the US regarding this, and I listen to the Sceptics Guide to the Universe regularly and this is the first I've heard of this Church. 

Any of ye America's hear about this, and why are they allowed to continue this practice?

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XenoFish
7 minutes ago, danydandan said:

The offer a miracle cure consisting entirely of industrial strength bleach

So the gene pool is finally getting bleached. 

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danydandan
2 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

If this is them they have a site.

https://genesis2church.ch/

Maybe this is what you're talking about?

https://genesis2church.ch/acquiring-mms

Yeap. 

https://g2sacraments.org/

Cost 450 to 800 dollars to attend a healing seminar. WTF.

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XenoFish
Just now, danydandan said:

Yeap. 

https://g2sacraments.org/

Cost 450 to 800 dollars to attend a healing seminar. WTF.

People want quick and often quack fixes for things. Sad really.

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danydandan
4 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

People want quick and often quack fixes for things. Sad really.

I meant to say you are expected and required to give a donation of 450 dollars per person. How are FDA not arresting them?

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XenoFish
3 minutes ago, danydandan said:

I meant to say you are expected and required to give a donation of 450 dollars per person. How are FDA not arresting them?

I guess no one has died (yet) from these "treatments". It's a money scam that's for sure. I feel pity for those who fall for it.

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Phaeton80
10 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

People want quick and often quack fixes for things. Sad really.


Indeed, like those dabbling with chaos magick.. trying to 'quick fix' their desires, right?

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Rlyeh
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I've heard you can purify water using bleach and drink it that way, it's obviously quite diluted though.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/BePreparedBeSafe/SevereWeatherandNaturalDisasters/WaterPurification

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XenoFish
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13 minutes ago, Phaeton80 said:


Indeed, like those dabbling with chaos magick.. trying to 'quick fix' their desires, right?

Like those praying to god and wishing really hard that their sacred saints and prophets will fix their lives, right?

I have a thread in the psychology section that you might want to read. Rather than needlessly derail this one.

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Essan

Sounds like this MMS stuff really could be a cure for all ills, if it's made from industrial strength bleach.  Well, whoever heard of a dead person being ill?  :lol: :rolleyes:

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XenoFish
15 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

I've heard you can purify water using bleach and drink it that way, it's obviously quite diluted though.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/BePreparedBeSafe/SevereWeatherandNaturalDisasters/WaterPurification

https://sawyer.com/videos/bucket-filter-assembly-maintenance/

From the looks of it. The filter system is way cheaper.

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danydandan

https://mms-supplement.com/

That's the source of this bollox.

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onlookerofmayhem

@danydandan

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/withoutacrystalball/2018/09/12186/

"In 2015 the United States government convicted a man in Washington, Louis Daniel Smith, of selling Miracle Mineral Solution. He received a 51-month prison sentence after the court determined he took part in a conspiracy to defraud and sell products illegal for human consumption."

 

"The Government determined he set up a fake “water purification” company to sell the sodium chlorite. However, he instructed his consumers to use the products internally."

"As I spent time on Keavy’s Corner website, they provide hazardous disclaimers for using sodium chlorite internally. Their disclaimers indicate inhalation can cause permanent damage to the lungs. Also, skin exposure to the sodium chlorite can cause burns, irritations, and rashes. Finally, the disclaimer says internal and oral use can cause vomiting, lethargy, diarrhea, nausea, internal bleeding, and ulcers."

"The FDA has warned consumers not to use Miracle Mineral Solution for treatment of any diseases or ailments."

It seems the illegal part has to do with specifically marketing the product to be taken internally.

 

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Habitat

I guess if people are desperate enough to drink bleach in quest of a remedy for their ailments, it may say something about the quality of their medical treatment, that leaves them clutching at such things.

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danydandan
3 minutes ago, Habitat said:

I guess if people are desperate enough to drink bleach in quest of a remedy for their ailments, it may say something about the quality of their medical treatment, that leaves them clutching at such things.

You know that's not true. Yeah the people taking it are idiots, those forcing their children to take it are idiots too but really this is about the peddlers of this crap.

They simply should be arrested!

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Piney
39 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

I've heard you can purify water using bleach and drink it that way, it's obviously quite diluted though.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/BePreparedBeSafe/SevereWeatherandNaturalDisasters/WaterPurification

Yeah, but when you use chlorine bleach to purify water you let the bleach evaporate in sunlight, which it does pretty quickly.

 

51 minutes ago, danydandan said:

I meant to say you are expected and required to give a donation of 450 dollars per person. How are FDA not arresting them?

The only thing they busted the ARE folks (Edgar Cayce clinics) for is claiming a medical background on Linkn and credit card fraud. 

This woocrap runs amok in the U.S. and China making real traditional healers look bad.  Then the only thing mentioned by the Western media is the Chinese frauds. Not the real Chinese herbalists. 

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Piney
1 hour ago, XenoFish said:

If this is them they have a site.

https://genesis2church.ch/

Maybe this is what you're talking about?

https://genesis2church.ch/acquiring-mms

This whole group should be in prison. I see nothing but toxic or ineffective substances. :hmm:

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danydandan
28 minutes ago, Piney said:

This whole group should be in prison. I see nothing but toxic or ineffective substances. :hmm:

Imagine saying to someone "I hear you have Cancer..... Well I have some Domestos under sink that has 100,000 ppm active Chlorine ingredient, we can mix that with some H2O and I'll cure your Cancer................but eh you have to drink it"

"Domestos???? The stuff I clean my toilet with?"

"Yeah and it will cost you $450"

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1 hour ago, danydandan said:

I think this belongs in this section.

So I was listening to the radio while shopping earlier today and a segment came on regarding these lads. The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing.

They offer a miracle cure consisting entirely of industrial strength bleach, I'm not sure if it's peroxide, chlorine or sulfur based but regardless I'm pretty sure us humans should not be ingesting such things. They claim their brand of bolloxology cures 95% of all known diseases.

The FDA have warned them about using this yet they still sell a kit and are still holding mass healing workshop's all over the US. 

So I need to give a shout out to Fiona O'Leary, a campaigner against pseudo science whose work helped to get MMS (the bleach this church is using) banned in Ireland in 2016. 

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0215/941028-bleach/ 

Some of her good work. In the link.

Now I can't seem to find any articles from the US regarding this, and I listen to the Sceptics Guide to the Universe regularly and this is the first I've heard of this Church. 

Any of ye America's hear about this, and why are they allowed to continue this practice?

Pseudo science?  No that is just plain mad science.

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XenoFish
5 minutes ago, danydandan said:

Imagine saying to someone "I hear you have Cancer..... Well I have some Domestos under sink that has 100,000 ppm active Chlorine ingredient, we can mix that with some H2O and I'll cure your Cancer................but eh you have to drink it"

"Domestos???? The stuff I clean my toilet with?"

"Yeah and it will cost you $450"

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GoldenWolf
1 hour ago, danydandan said:

You know that's not true. Yeah the people taking it are idiots, those forcing their children to take it are idiots too but really this is about the peddlers of this crap.

They simply should be arrested!

Now they will probably try calling you The Anti-Christ.

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Habitat
8 hours ago, danydandan said:

You know that's not true. Yeah the people taking it are idiots, those forcing their children to take it are idiots too but really this is about the peddlers of this crap.

They simply should be arrested!

What's not true ? That many people get no relief from their ailments via doctors, of course it is true, or the "alternative remedies" would not exist. Not that chlorine is any kind of remedy.

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21 hours ago, danydandan said:

You know that's not true. Yeah the people taking it are idiots, those forcing their children to take it are idiots too but really this is about the peddlers of this crap.

They simply should be arrested!

You can be arrested in Australia for selling fresh,( ie untreated and straight from a cow, )  cow's milk, for human consumption.

 

It is illegal to sell raw milk for human consumption in Australia, so all bottled milk you buy from a shop, or you get from a food business like a cafe, must be pasteurised. Any business that sells or serves raw cow's milk is breaching the law AND putting your health at risk.

Interestingly, govt contracted domestic cleaners, such as those who help my wife, are also banned from  using chlorine based bleaches like domestos because of the health risk it creates, just using it as a cleaner all day. 

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Tatetopa
On 4/20/2019 at 6:07 AM, danydandan said:

Cost 450 to 800 dollars to attend a healing seminar. WTF.

They better get the money up front.  They probably don't have a lot of repeat customers.

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