UM-Bot Posted May 3, 2019 #1 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The veteran Apollo astronaut has called on the US government to hasten its efforts to colonize Mars. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/327438/buzz-aldrin-calls-for-mass-migration-to-mars 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted May 3, 2019 #2 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I think he's right. It will be difficult at first but I think it is a good project, if for no other reason than to remove the national borders and unite us as humans trying to survive as a race. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted May 3, 2019 #3 Share Posted May 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: I think he's right. It will be difficult at first but I think it is a good project, if for no other reason than to remove the national borders and unite us as humans trying to survive as a race. Since nobody owns Mars, any major corporation could go there and wreck any havoc they want to, in the name of profit. So before we start, we might need to agree on some ground rules, and distribution of natural resources. If I may suggest: No corporate agenda whatsoever should be allowed, unless for the common good. And no nation should be permitted to claim any areas. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted May 3, 2019 #4 Share Posted May 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: any major corporation could go there and wreck any havoc they want to, in the name of profit. "Welcome to McMars. Can I take your order?" 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted May 3, 2019 #5 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: "Welcome to McMars. Can I take your order?" "I'd like one McFlurry with Mars, please!" "And what would you like in it?" "Mars!" (Long break....) "One McMars Flurry with Marshmallows coming up! Would you like to order anything else?" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted May 3, 2019 #6 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Just now, sci-nerd said: "I'd like one McFlurry with Mars, please!" "And what would you like in it?" "Mars!" (Long break....) "One McMars Flurry with Marshmallows coming up! Would you like to order anything else?" "I want that mars szechuan mcnugget sauce!!" 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted May 3, 2019 #7 Share Posted May 3, 2019 51 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: Since nobody owns Mars, any major corporation could go there and wreck any havoc they want to, in the name of profit. So before we start, we might need to agree on some ground rules, and distribution of natural resources. If I may suggest: No corporate agenda whatsoever should be allowed, unless for the common good. And no nation should be permitted to claim any areas. I see your point but governments can change their mind on this type of endeavour and pull funding. I think the only way to have long term colonies on Mars will be to involve private enterprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted May 3, 2019 #8 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: I see your point but governments can change their mind on this type of endeavour and pull funding. Yeah, like Trump and the Paris agreement. Well, let's wait till he's a goner then 5 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: I think the only way to have long term colonies on Mars will be to involve private enterprise. Yes, under strict ethical rules. We should see Mars as a virgin, and companies as horny teenage boys. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted May 3, 2019 #9 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) That's cool, well said buzz ! Edited May 3, 2019 by Jon the frog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted May 3, 2019 #10 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, L.A.T.1961 said: I see your point but governments can change their mind on this type of endeavour and pull funding. I think the only way to have long term colonies on Mars will be to involve private enterprise. THat's why I think the national borders have to be removed, one world, one government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 3, 2019 #11 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, sci-nerd said: If I may suggest: No corporate agenda whatsoever should be allowed, unless for the common good. And no nation should be permitted to claim any areas. In the end there will only be one reason to go to mars on a permanent basis and it's not survival of the race. It's because it will contribute to wealth and power. There is no way the most difficult and expensive undertaking in the history of mankind will attempted without substantial reward attached to the potential risk. As in the Alien movies, space exploration will also be space exploitation and it will be run by corporations more powerful and wealthy that anything presently known. Edited May 3, 2019 by OverSword 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted May 3, 2019 #12 Share Posted May 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, OverSword said: In the end there will only be one reason to go to mars on a permanent basis and it's not survival of the race. It's because it will contribute to wealth and power. There is no way the most difficult and expensive undertaking in the history of mankind will attempted without substantial reward attached to the potential risk. As in the Alien movies, space exploration will also be space exploitation and it will be run by corporations more powerful and wealthy that anything presently known. Yeah, that is probably true, but it's fun to think about alternatives. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted May 3, 2019 #13 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Quote "Human nature - and potentially the ultimate survival of our species - demands humanity's continued outward reach into the universe," he wrote. The survival of our species? Because we made such a mess on Earth, he thinks we should leave it behind and try elsewhere?!! How about we try to do right on the planet we evolved on and which is suitable for us. It is certainly not Mars Going to Mars should only be for research, not for us to live on. It is obvious only a select few of humans would be able to travel.to Mars, which means biillions would not. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted May 3, 2019 #14 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said: THat's why I think the national borders have to be removed, one world, one government. Run by a Council of Women. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted May 3, 2019 #15 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Piney said: Run by a Council of Women. Called #MarsToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted May 3, 2019 #16 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Piney said: Run by a Council of Women. Yes, and we will send the men who think they should be running Earth - to Mars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted May 3, 2019 #17 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, freetoroam said: Yes, and we will send the men who think they should be running Earth - to Mars. Might be nice. At least Mars acts according to the laws of nature! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted May 3, 2019 #18 Share Posted May 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, freetoroam said: Yes, and we will send the men who think they should be running Earth - to Mars. I recommend a certain orange painted schmuck. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted May 3, 2019 #19 Share Posted May 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, freetoroam said: Yes, and we will send the men who think they should be running Earth - to Mars. Ya think man? I like the idea dude! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelion318 Posted May 3, 2019 #20 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Can't believe I have to state here that humans can't survive on Mars at least not for 1000 years after we start terra-forming it. If the politicians spent as much effort on climate as they do on partisan squabbling they would have already deployed some of the carbon mitigation/reducing technology already invented right here on Earth to fix it. I'm all for the exploration of Mars but, c'mon Buzz. Also, you'll notice that NASA does the science but it's the super wealthy like Branson and Musk who are leading the way into putting people en masse into space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted May 3, 2019 #21 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 hours ago, sci-nerd said: Since nobody owns Mars, any major corporation could go there and wreck any havoc they want to, in the name of profit. So before we start, we might need to agree on some ground rules, and distribution of natural resources. If I may suggest: No corporate agenda whatsoever should be allowed, unless for the common good. And no nation should be permitted to claim any areas. There are already treaties regarding such things http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted May 3, 2019 #22 Share Posted May 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: There are already treaties regarding such things http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties.html Typical! When people have fun, someone always has to spoil it with facts! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted May 3, 2019 #23 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) I don't think mars will survive human kind, but other planets that looked like earth and hope we get there before our planet blows up:) https://www.space.com/30172-six-most-earth-like-alien-planets.html Edited May 3, 2019 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted May 4, 2019 #24 Share Posted May 4, 2019 59 minutes ago, Piney said: Ya think man? I like the idea dude! You will be staying here. You are too good to be sent to Mars. Earth needs you here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted May 4, 2019 #25 Share Posted May 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: I don't think mars will survive human kind, Human kind will not survive Mars. From what we know of Mars, there is nothing there for man to destroy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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