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La Virgen de Guadalupe

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papageorge1
16 hours ago, Piney said:

Our Lady of Guadalupe was a remade "Corn Mother" and the "peasant" who saw her was actually a Aztec Priest for Chicomecoatl trying to preserve her worship and sacred site. The symbolism found throughout her image is pure Nahuatl and not Christian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicomecōātl

I don’t see a problem with Mary bridging cultures.

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AXJ
4 hours ago, Captain Risky said:

Must admit people will generally see and read into what they want. A starving man dreams of bread and all that... Its human nature. But there are also a lot of educated and rich people that also happen to believe. 

This impression was not painted and is unexplicable even today.

 

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AXJ
1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

I don’t see a problem with Mary bridging cultures.

More than cultures, it was replacing a canabalistic religion of death for one of peace and love....although Catholics and their Spanish Inquisition with Torquemada at the helm was terrible...

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AXJ
19 hours ago, Ozymandias said:

Why does the Virgin Mary only ever appear to uneducated peasants in Catholic countries?

Perhaps they are more receptive and spiritual in some unique way?

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Captain Risky
1 hour ago, AXJ said:

This impression was not painted and is unexplicable even today.

 

I don't know what you means.

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Captain Risky
13 minutes ago, AXJ said:

The image of the Virgin is not painted. It has still not been explained. And even the eyes reflect what was seen by them. 

https://aleteia.org/2016/11/07/whats-to-be-seen-by-looking-into-our-lady-of-guadalupes-eyes/

Thanks for the heads up. Cheers

 

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jaylemurph
3 hours ago, AXJ said:

More than cultures, it was replacing a canabalistic religion of death for one of peace and love....although Catholics and their Spanish Inquisition with Torquemada at the helm was terrible...

...that would be with the same religion that not only symbolically reënacts the death of their savior multiple times a day then eats his actual flesh and blood (according to them)?

—Jaylemurph 

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jaylemurph
2 hours ago, AXJ said:

The image of the Virgin is not painted. It has still not been explained. And even the eyes reflect what was seen by them. 

https://aleteia.org/2016/11/07/whats-to-be-seen-by-looking-into-our-lady-of-guadalupes-eyes/

Well, for a certain class of person it may not have been painted. The rest of us see paint and come to the conclusion it was painted. 

—Jaylemurph 

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keithisco

Just as an aside - wasnt / isnt there an Heretical Text The Gospel According to Mary that never made the "cut" for inclusion in the Bible during the Council of Nicea. Berlin Codex rings a bell for some reason?

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Piney
47 minutes ago, keithisco said:

Just as an aside - wasnt / isnt there an Heretical Text The Gospel According to Mary that never made the "cut" for inclusion in the Bible during the Council of Nicea. Berlin Codex rings a bell for some reason?

It is a late Gnostic car crash. :lol:

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Ozymandias
8 hours ago, Piney said:

That is the Day of the Dead. My people call it Feast of the Dead or "Skeleton Dance" but it's close to the same celebration. 

That's the original Celtic Samhain, now the modern Hallowe'en = All Hallow's Eve(ning), when the dead were believed to roam freely among the living.

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Piney
2 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

That's the original Celtic Samhain, now the modern Hallowe'en = All Hallow's Eve(ning), when the dead were believed to roam freely among the living.

Our's is about putting the dead's remains to rest and sending their spirits to join Creation. 

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Ozymandias
4 minutes ago, Piney said:

Our's is about putting the dead's remains to rest and sending their spirits to join Creation. 

When was your Feast of the Dead celebrated?

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Piney
1 minute ago, Ozymandias said:

When was your Feast of the Dead celebrated?

Every 3 to 5 years. Depending on how much remains were amassed. 

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Ozymandias
1 minute ago, Piney said:

Every 3 to 5 years. Depending on how much remains were amassed. 

Any particular time of the year?

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Piney
6 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

Any particular time of the year?

Spring.

We kept the bodies in a "Chiikonaason", a charnel house and a Kiimochknii guarded the remains burning the flesh that was peeled or fell off. The skeletons were bundled and then buried in a Tribal Ossuary. Now it's just cremains or returned remains dug up by archaeologists. 

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AXJ
2 hours ago, keithisco said:

Just as an aside - wasnt / isnt there an Heretical Text The Gospel According to Mary that never made the "cut" for inclusion in the Bible during the Council of Nicea. Berlin Codex rings a bell for some reason?

Yes...so many mysteries...St. Judas what not who they say he was either... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas 

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AXJ
1 hour ago, Ozymandias said:

That's the original Celtic Samhain, now the modern Hallowe'en = All Hallow's Eve(ning), when the dead were believed to roam freely among the living.

Are you referring to the Dance Macabra of the middle ages prevalent throughout Europe? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danse_Macabre

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Mellon Man
4 minutes ago, AXJ said:

Yes...so many mysteries...St. Judas what not who they say he was either... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas 

It may seem you refuse to acknowledge the real history of Christianity.

These texts were never in consideration for the New Testament.

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AXJ
3 minutes ago, Mellon Man said:

It may seem you refuse to acknowledge the real history of Christianity.

These texts were never in consideration for the New Testament.

You are correct here...the Vatican saved some but destroyed most...

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Mellon Man
2 minutes ago, AXJ said:

You are correct here...the Vatican saved some but destroyed most...

Sorry, but you're quite confusing. What has the Vatican saved and destroyed? The texts have nothing to do with the Vatican, excluding the theistic connection.

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AXJ
4 minutes ago, Mellon Man said:

Sorry, but you're quite confusing. What has the Vatican saved and destroyed? The texts have nothing to do with the Vatican, excluding the theistic connection.

Because since approximately 2,000 years ago the Vatican has been hell bent ( no pun intended ) in covering up the Truth...where in Egypt do you think Yeshua of Nazareth really went to? Who did He have contact with?

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Mellon Man
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8 minutes ago, AXJ said:

Because since approximately 2,000 years ago the Vatican has been hell bent ( no pun intended ) in covering up the Truth...where in Egypt do you think Yeshua of Nazareth really went to? Who did He have contact with?

The Vatican didn't exist 2.000 years ago. 

Also, are you referring to the Magician Hypothesis? 

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