aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #101 Share Posted May 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, OverSword said: Has legalizing marijuana led to more crime? It’s not the same as legalizing murder and rape for crying out loud Apples meet oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 14, 2019 #102 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Big Jim said: They manage the herd through the number of licenses issued. They crack down on poachers because they're breaking the law. And if they don’t issue enough licenses to manage the deer then the deer suffer. Make a leap here and quit making me spell out common sense. There are more jobs for migrants than work visas issued. Do I really need to type an entire paragraph on my friggin phone or can you think it through to what I’m saying is a cheaper common sense solution to help alleviate some of the problem? Or is your needle stuck in the groove and you just repeat They took r jobz over and over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #103 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OverSword said: And if they don’t issue enough licenses to manage the deer then the deer suffer. Make a leap here and quit making me spell out common sense. There are more jobs for migrants than work visas issued. Do I really need to type an entire paragraph on my friggin phone or can you think it through to what I’m saying is a cheaper common sense solution to help alleviate some of the problem? Or is your needle stuck in the groove and you just repeat They took r jobz over and over? so what? don't you think there is a reason for it? why don't we issue billion of deer tags? if we have so many jobs why are 10 mil do not have any? Edited May 14, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jim Posted May 14, 2019 #104 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: And if they don’t issue enough licenses to manage the deer then the deer suffer. Make a leap here and quit making me spell out common sense. There are more jobs for migrants than work visas issued. Do I really need to type an entire paragraph on my friggin phone or can you think it through to what I’m saying is a cheaper common sense solution to help alleviate some of the problem? Or is your needle stuck in the groove and you just repeat They took r jobz over and over? Far from making you spell out common sense, I'm waiting for you to show some. No matter how easy we make it to come here legally we still need to address those who won't. If everyone went by the law there would be no immigration problem, no crisis at the border. I've never once said they took our jobs, much less over and over. I'm saying that they should come in legally or stay the hell out. Jobs or no jobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 14, 2019 #105 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Big Jim said: Not bull. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/ Laughable. Most here illegally do not apply to the government for handouts for fear of being deported. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jim Posted May 14, 2019 #106 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: Laughable. Most here illegally do not apply to the government for handouts for fear of being deported. Perhaps you should contact USA Today and share your wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #107 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, OverSword said: Laughable. Most here illegally do not apply to the government for handouts for fear of being deported. now that is laughable, knowing what i know. but lets just agree to disagree. Edited May 14, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #108 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) How legal immigrants can claim U.S. tax credits IRS Admits It Encourages Illegals To Steal Social Security Numbers For Taxes Edited May 14, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #109 Share Posted May 14, 2019 some good news GOP's tax bill cancels $23 billion in credits claimed by illegal immigrants https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/2/gops-tax-bill-cancels-23-billion-credits-illegals/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 14, 2019 #110 Share Posted May 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, aztek said: if we have so many jobs why are 10 mil do not have any? Because unlike so many of our great grandparents and grandparents most won’t move to where the jobs are. There are thousands of oil related jobs and opportunities to innovate and build businesses to support those jobs (grocers, truckers, etc.) in Texas right now but there are not coal miners or jobless people from Chicago moving there to the benefit from them. Why should they the government gives them food and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #111 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, OverSword said: Because unlike so many of our great grandparents and grandparents most won’t move to where the jobs are. There are thousands of oil related jobs and opportunities to innovate and build businesses to support those jobs (grocers, truckers, etc.) in Texas right now but there are not coal miners or jobless people from Chicago moving there to the benefit from them. Why should they the government gives them food and money. so we should give them to illegals instead? i'm not even talking about accuracy of statement before, imo, it could not be more wrong, even as you said there are thousands of jobs, yet we have 10 mil with no jobs, you mean to tell me none want them? lol Edited May 14, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 14, 2019 #112 Share Posted May 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, aztek said: How legal immigrants can claim U.S. tax credits IRS Admits It Encourages Illegals To Steal Social Security Numbers For Taxes 27 minutes ago, aztek said: some good news GOP's tax bill cancels $23 billion in credits claimed by illegal immigrants https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/2/gops-tax-bill-cancels-23-billion-credits-illegals/ Just more proof that the current system doesn’t work. You’re a fool if you think building a wall or mass deportations are the answer. Cutting benefits of illegals is not something I’m against though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 14, 2019 #113 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, aztek said: so we should give them to illegals instead? Never said that at all. In fact letting more in legally makes it easier to monitor them and ensure they don’t leech. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #114 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, OverSword said: Never said that at all. In fact letting more in legally makes it easier to monitor them and ensure they don’t leech. you do not get it, they do not want to be here legally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #115 Share Posted May 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: Just more proof that the current system doesn’t work. You’re a fool if you think building a wall or mass deportations are the answer. Cutting benefits of illegals is not something I’m against though. you are fool to think not to, or that it will be the only measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 14, 2019 #116 Share Posted May 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, aztek said: you are fool to think not to, or that it will be the only measure Walls, patrols, courts, jails,...expensive. Identifying, licensing, taxing......cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #117 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, OverSword said: Walls, patrols, courts, jails,...expensive. Identifying, licensing, taxing......cheap. you still do not get it, THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE LEGALLY. IT DOES NOT PAY. we are paying a lot more now Edited May 14, 2019 by aztek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted May 14, 2019 #118 Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 hours ago, aztek said: THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE LEGALLY. IT DOES NOT PAY. Why do you think this? It certainly can't be much fun thinking that if your wife or husband goes to the grocery store, ICE may detain and deport them. Getting a work permit and being registered seems a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 14, 2019 #119 Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Tatetopa said: Why do you think this? try to follow the conversation, i explained before why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted May 14, 2019 #120 Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 hours ago, aztek said: ry to follow the conversation, i explained before why OK, I went back and read your other previous posts. I am still a little in the dark. If you work, you get taxes withheld right? How do you have a bill if you have no ID and no credit? Who would give you money or goods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 15, 2019 #121 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: If you work, you get taxes withheld right? How do you have a bill if you have no ID and no credit? Who would give you money or goods? right, unless i work on cash and pay no taxes, or i can pay some taxes and earn tax credit. you have stolen id, stolen ss, you apply for cc, using stolen identity, than you do not pay, and you do nto have to worry, a poor sob whose ss you stole will be in troubles, read irs link that i posted, how they encourage illegals to steal ss, also read up on tax credits for illegals you are not a little in the dark , you're in a complete darkness if you have ask these question. Edited May 15, 2019 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted May 15, 2019 #122 Share Posted May 15, 2019 23 hours ago, aztek said: you do not get it, they do not want to be here legally. You, sir, get a CEE-gar. Ya know, I used to wonder why these people pay a coyote big $$ to get to the Los Angeles when all they have to do is fly into LAX! What is so hard? We'll, they cannot ply their trade here as they plan to if they have actual known identities. Ever wonder how they end up with 6 EBT cards...? Two apartments??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted May 15, 2019 #123 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted May 15, 2019 #124 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Hey @acidhead, I wonder if that Michael you posted about is a republican yet? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted May 17, 2019 #125 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 13/05/2019 at 9:28 AM, Jerry Gallo said: Does anybody here, anyone, have the courage to admit the reason the left wants open borders is for the Hispanic vote? According to exit polling, 89% of African Americans voted for Clinton. 66% of Hispanics and Latinos voted for Clinton. 65% of Asian Americans. Throw in true leftists, the LGBT community, and pro-choice women. Add those allowed citizen privileges and felons to vote as some are calling for, soon enough, you have a permanent voting class in Presidential elections. Just enough in swing states to tip the scales, Democrats never lose again. Why not just say it out loud? Those numbers seem a bit dubious if only about half of eligible people vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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