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Eldorado

Upper Classes truly believe they are superior

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Alchopwn
On 5/21/2019 at 5:31 AM, Mr Guitar said:

Politicians are a good example of this - most are incompetent and only want to be there for the power and money. They can't exist outside of the political arena. Ever stop and think about why so many politicians have law degrees? They went to school and did well in the 'bubble' academia environment  then find they're not successful in the real world so they escape to so-called public service. Not sure I've ever heard of a successful attorney abandoning a great firm just to run for public office. Interesting to see how many are dis-barred or convicted felons. When they get amongst their peers (where everyone is dishonest), they feed off of and protect each other. Would like to see statistics of how many senators and congressmen manage to become multi millionaires on a <$200K salary in less than a 4 year term. Could it be 'influence peddling? Oh, no.....of course not!!

It is very easy to call politicians bad names, and the popular perception of politicians is that they're corrupt.  It just ain't so.  Historically the most corrupt politicial officials are anybody involved in planning approvals, which is generally Local and State level.  That is because organized crime syndicates have used construction as a means of laundering money for a long time.  Now once you get to the federal level, there are all those campaign contributions that get into millions of dollars, but misappropriating that money is a federal offense, and politicians have gone to jail for using that illegally What happens to campaign funds after elections?.

The main reason that lawyers get involved in politics is that they are the people who spend the most time involved in dealing with the laws that politicians pass.  Unsurprisingly, many lawyers think the laws could be better, and so they get into politics to change them.  Lawyers also come with a good range of people and research skills for managing the level of info that a political appointment throws at them.

You ask about convicted felons in government.  While I don't have time to source all 50 states, the wiki entry isn't exactly short for federal government USA: List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes.  Considering that 535 people sit in Congress, and 4.4% of the total US population have been in jail, the numbers are somewhat low.  I don't know why convicted felons get to stand for public office.  As to disbarred lawyers, there aren't so many, in fact according to the stats, there aren't so many lawyers in Congress anymore Lawyers no longer dominate Congress and that might be part of why the situation is as unstable as it is at the moment.

In terms of influence mongering, that is mainly the lobbyists.  In terms of how they get rich, that is primarily to do with investments.  If you want to point a finger, it should probably be at insider trading, but there are plenty of laws to stop that sort of thing How did congress members get so wealthy?

For the most part, being in politics is a masochistic game.  You run because you want to fix something that is broken.  You get elected because the person elected before you failed to deliver, or got stale in the job.  When in office you swim upstream against a system that doesn't want to change.  Eventually you have to compromise on something else to get what you want, and you just hope that isn't a fresh disaster.  Rarely, you may develop some actual skill for getting things done and continue to rise, but generally, you stagnate and eventually get dumped out of office.  It is metaphorically a bit like salmon trying to mate really.

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lightly
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^^^^^  as for the percentages of convicted felons serving jail time being statistically low  for politicians....as opposed to poor people...

         That has more to do with the way our legal system is structured?     $10,000 fine OR 90 days in jail.   Or maybe the high priced lawyer gets the rich guy off with a fine and community service...while the overworked court appointed lawyer gets the poor guy jail time and community service.    The system is structured to give those who can afford it, an advantage.    .

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lightly

Right on lightly!    :lol:

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Skirnum
On 5/20/2019 at 9:07 PM, Eldorado said:

"People of higher social standing believe they are better than their lower-class counterparts, research suggests.

I am stupid, so I need help. When you are as stupid as me you need help from the Origin. And sometimes I get it. I get what it is about, and I get help from the Origin. I try to be human.

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XenoFish
22 minutes ago, Skirnum said:

I am stupid, so I need help. When you are as stupid as me you need help from the Origin. And sometimes I get it. I get what it is about, and I get help from the Origin. I try to be human.

Can you tie your shoe laces? 

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Skirnum
5 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Can you tie your shoe laces? 

Now and then  :-)

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XenoFish
Just now, Skirnum said:

Now and then  :-)

Then there is hope.:tu::lol:

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Essan
8 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Can you tie your shoe laces? 

That's what servants are for!  :D

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XenoFish
1 minute ago, Essan said:

That's what servants are for!  :D

I let the neophyte illuminati members do all that stuff for me. 

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Eldorado
11 hours ago, Essan said:

That's what servants are for!  :D

"At one point in time, Prince Charles had a personal valet help him with his nighttime routine. Michael Fawcett, one of his valets, would squeeze toothpaste onto his toothbrush every night."

"The Queen hires someone to break in her shoes for her so she doesn’t have to suffer in stiff, new shoes."

https://www.rd.com/culture/bizarre-royal-family-perks/  :)

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