+OverSword Posted May 23, 2019 #1 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Quote State and local authorities will now be restricted from asking about people's immigration status, adding to a West Coast wall of states with so-called sanctuary policies. Gov. Jay Inslee signed a measure Tuesday implementing the new rules. They put Washington among only a handful of states, including California and Oregon, to have enacted statewide sanctuary policies and rank among the strongest statewide mandates in the nation. Police officers in Washington won't be able to inquire about immigration status except in limited circumstances, and the state attorney general will draw up rules for courthouses, hospitals and other state government facilities aimed at limiting their use as places where federal immigration agents look for people in the country illegally. "Our state agencies are not immigration enforcement agencies," said Inslee, a Democrat who is also running for president. "We will not be complicit in the Trump administration's depraved efforts to break up hard-working immigrant and refugee families." Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted May 23, 2019 #2 Share Posted May 23, 2019 sadly the link doesn't work for me ? (access denied). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 23, 2019 Author #3 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: sadly the link doesn't work for me ? (access denied). Try this https://www.king5.com/article/news/politics/washington-gov-jay-inslee-signs-sanctuary-state-law/281-e4fc124a-82dc-4c9e-bedc-9c179ae9bb7e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted May 23, 2019 #4 Share Posted May 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, OverSword said: Try this https://www.king5.com/article/news/politics/washington-gov-jay-inslee-signs-sanctuary-state-law/281-e4fc124a-82dc-4c9e-bedc-9c179ae9bb7e Sadly not. "Access Denied". It could be a regional/national issue ? I know some US websites are banning European visitors, on the grounds that many of them are too right wing and like Donald Trump ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 23, 2019 #5 Share Posted May 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: Sadly not. "Access Denied". It could be a regional/national issue ? I know some US websites are banning European visitors, on the grounds that many of them are too right wing and like Donald Trump ? really??? that is quite the opposite from what i see here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted May 23, 2019 #6 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Quote Washington Gov. Jay Inslee signs sanctuary state law Police officers in Washington will be restricted from asking about immigration status except in limited circumstances under a new state law. Author: Associated Press, Tom James Published: 5:06 PM PDT May 22, 2019 Updated: 5:06 PM PDT May 22, 2019 Editor’s note: The video above was originally published in March 2019 when the measure was moving through the Washington Legislature. State and local authorities will now be restricted from asking about people's immigration status, adding to a West Coast wall of states with so-called sanctuary policies. Gov. Jay Inslee signed a measure Tuesday implementing the new rules. They put Washington among only a handful of states, including California and Oregon, to have enacted statewide sanctuary policies and rank among the strongest statewide mandates in the nation. Police officers in Washington won't be able to inquire about immigration status except in limited circumstances, and the state attorney general will draw up rules for courthouses, hospitals and other state government facilities aimed at limiting their use as places where federal immigration agents look for people in the country illegally. "Our state agencies are not immigration enforcement agencies," said Inslee, a Democrat who is also running for president. "We will not be complicit in the Trump administration's depraved efforts to break up hard-working immigrant and refugee families." A 2017 executive order from Inslee imposed similar requirements but only on state agencies, a move advocates said fell short. Tuesday's bill expands the rules to include all local law enforcement. That's significant because most police interactions tend to occur at the city and county level, rather than with state troopers, and because local police have long been targets for cooperation requests from federal immigration authorities, generating the majority of deportations, said Lena Graber, an attorney with the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, a national non-profit that tracks sanctuary policies. Tuesday's bill, Graber said, gives Washington, "the strongest and most comprehensive state law on sanctuary in the country." Under the bill, local law enforcement agencies are broadly prohibited from asking about immigration status or place of birth unless directly connected to a criminal investigation, and both local jails and state prisons are prohibited from complying with voluntary "immigration holds" requested by federal authorities, or from notifying federal authorities when an immigrant is about to be released from their custody. Local and state authorities are also broadly prohibited from sharing immigration information about people in custody with immigration authorities, except under a valid court order or where required by law. While the exact definition of "sanctuary state" is flexible, Graber said, five other states have seen state laws or executive orders or rules used to create statewide protections against coordination between local and federal law enforcement on non-criminal immigration investigations: Illinois, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and Vermont. Oregon was the first state to adopt a statewide sanctuary policy, in 1987, a straightforward restriction on police spending any resources - including paid staff time - going after people who are in the country illegally but haven't committed other crimes. That broad provision has been generally effective, said Ivan Hernandez, communications director for Causa, a Portland-area immigrant advocacy group. California passed more robust protections in 2017, including yearly reporting requirements and a rule that authorities must get written consent from people they arrest before allowing them to be interviewed by immigration officers. Jorge Baron, head of the Seattle-based Northwest Immigrants' Rights Project, said he thought the bill would increase public safety generally by creating a sense of certainty that contacting police to report a crime or come forward as a witness won't result in an immigration investigation. But Republican state Sen. Phil Fortunato, who voted against the law when it was before the Legislature, said he thought the bill would hamper the ability of police to take action against subjects they suspect to be illegal immigrants. "This not only puts law enforcement at risk, it puts private citizens at risk," Fortunato said. The bill's sponsor, Democratic Sen. Lisa Wellman, pointed to pragmatic concerns over sectors of the labor market that rely on immigrants — including the agriculture, hospitality and high-tech sectors. "We have 30% of Microsoft here on visas," Wellman said before a public hearing for the bill in the state Legislature earlier this year. At the same time, she added, "You can't open a hotel if you don't have immigrants in back-of-house." Wellman also said she felt a deeper unease as a daughter of Jewish immigrants over shifting rhetoric on the topic at the national level. Immigrants, Wellman said, shouldn't have to worry that police might demand "papers" at any moment. For those that can't view the website. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 23, 2019 #7 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) that is strange, 30% of Microsoft on visas, so that means they are legal, and have nothing to worry about. no one wants to deport legal immigrants. they are not in danger, otoh if Microsoft knowingly hires illegals, they need to be fined, and people responsible arrested. Edited May 23, 2019 by aztek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderOTD Posted May 23, 2019 #8 Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 hours ago, RoofGardener said: Sadly not. "Access Denied". It could be a regional/national issue ? I know some US websites are banning European visitors, on the grounds that many of them are too right wing and like Donald Trump ? The sites or the visitors 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 24, 2019 #9 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Apparently, Secession isn't a problem any longer. That's good to know. It might well come in handy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jim Posted May 24, 2019 #10 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 hours ago, and then said: Apparently, Secession isn't a problem any longer. That's good to know. It might well come in handy That's what I was thinking. This is essentially de facto secession. It ought to incur cessation of federal funds. The Federal Government has long controlled the states through funding where it didn't have the authority to control them by law. These states are not islands (no offense, Hawaii), the lawlessness they allow and encourage doesn't stay within their borders. Non English speaking non Americans are not likely to understand how our state governments are set up, so whatever they get away with in sanctuary states they will assume to be the norm everywhere. I found particular irony in the sentence "Local and state authorities are also broadly prohibited from sharing immigration information about people in custody with immigration authorities, except under a valid court order or where required by law." Enforcing the laws of the United States is required by law and is part of the oath of office of every law enforcement official and elected representative. I suppose the people running these states consider themselves to be beneficiaries of sanctuary from the law. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted May 24, 2019 #11 Share Posted May 24, 2019 7 hours ago, EnderOTD said: The sites or the visitors ROFL.. the visitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 24, 2019 #12 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The last time States tweaked the Feds nose like this, their State Guards were Nationalized. In any event, National Law supersedes State Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 24, 2019 #13 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The Northwest is going to hell in a handbasket. We've already lost Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted May 24, 2019 #14 Share Posted May 24, 2019 42 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: The last time States tweaked the Feds nose like this, their State Guards were Nationalized. In any event, National Law supersedes State Law. Yeeeeessss... ummm... surely the Supremes would be required to confirm that these new State Laws ARE indeed in conflict with Federal Law ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted May 24, 2019 #15 Share Posted May 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: The Northwest is going to hell in a handbasket. We've already lost Seattle. Umm.... no, I don't think so. It's still there... inbetween Tacoma and Vancouver ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted May 24, 2019 #16 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: The last time States tweaked the Feds nose like this, their State Guards were Nationalized. In any event, National Law supersedes State Law. Wow...dramatic stuff. Which state was this ? And what did the Feds actually DO with the national guard ? Edited May 24, 2019 by RoofGardener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 24, 2019 #17 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RoofGardener said: Umm.... no, I don't think so. It's still there... inbetween Tacoma and Vancouver ?? We're getting a lot your refugees here. They say it's becoming a giant homeless camp. I watched a few documentaries to see what they were talking about. Now it will be flooded with thousands of illegals on top that dung heap. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 24, 2019 #18 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RoofGardener said: Wow...dramatic stuff. Which state was this ? And what did the Feds actually DO with the national guard ? They made it the National Guard, subject to federal authority and the army. It use to be State Guards. I'd thought a bleeding heart like you would know all about it, Little Rock and all that, Civil Rights Movement, integration, remember now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 24, 2019 #19 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: We're getting a lot of your refugees here. They say it's becoming a giant homeless camp. I watched a few documentaries to see what they were talking about. Now it will be flooded with thousands of illegals on top that dung heap. Enjoy. Edited May 24, 2019 by Hammerclaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted May 24, 2019 #20 Share Posted May 24, 2019 58 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: They made it the National Guard, subject to federal authority and the army. It use to be State Guards. I'd thought a bleeding heart like you would know all about it, Little Rock and all that, Civil Rights Movement, integration, remember now? There you go @RoofGardener you're a bleeding heart liberal after all! Doesn't matter what you think, an American has decided it for you. Further proof that an American socialist is basically a Tory activist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted May 24, 2019 #21 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Roofgardener is a bleeding heart? This has made my day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted May 24, 2019 #22 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 hours ago, RoofGardener said: Umm.... no, I don't think so. It's still there... inbetween Tacoma and Vancouver ?? it's been an independent Socialist Republic since it declared independence in November 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 24, 2019 #23 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Setton said: There you go @RoofGardener you're a bleeding heart liberal after all! Doesn't matter what you think, an American has decided it for you. Further proof that an American socialist is basically a Tory activist I here you are about to be disMayed. Good luck with that Brexit thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted May 24, 2019 #24 Share Posted May 24, 2019 @Hammerclaw - YA, Seattle = very sad. Great coffee houses, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 24, 2019 #25 Share Posted May 24, 2019 who the hell wants to be in cold WA? they want free money in warm cali. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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