Timothy Posted June 4, 2019 #26 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Doug1o29 said: Never blame on malice what can be explained by incompetence. Whether industry can operate using wind or solar depends on the industry. Iron and steel can't. Aluminum could. But first you have to build the wind turbines to run it. Otherwise, your aluminum plant is seriously cutting into your power supply. Sounds like Australia is underpowered to begin with. If you're having black-outs and brown-outs, it's because you don't have enough power.- build more windmills. Once it's generated, electric power is electric power. There's no difference between wind-generated and coal or gas-generated electricity. It's all about putting enough generators out there to do the job. Doug Hi Doug, Just to offer another Aussie opinion: The blackouts in Victoria in Feb this year were a non-issue for most. Power was deliberately cut to ~200,000 consumers for up to two hours. There was a 40°C heat wave at the time, one generator down for scheduled maintenance and two had unplanned outages. Yes there was not enough electricity available for demand at the time and the Portland VIC smelter etc. was paid to switch off for a bit, but the system worked as it was meant to and the actual power cuts were planned and deliberate. It’s part of the contingency and allows for this situation to possibly occur once a month. Consumers were advised beforehand and the cuts happened as expected. Having said that, my power didn’t go off, and the only time in the last ~10 years I’ve experienced blackouts was once at UNI in 2008 or 2009 for bit of an evening. Other than that, just the lights flickering sometimes during local electrical storms etc. If people wanted to, we could pay in our taxes to build another plant and always have excess power and 100% supply for demand. But it’s not really economical. And people want to spend their $$ on other stuff. The current system is getting old and will be supplemented as required, but it works and the ‘blackouts’ are not a major issue for the vast majority of people who live here. (‘blackouts’ because it wasn’t as big an issue as @tmcom is making it sound. Most people here wouldn’t really bat an eyelid at what happened.) @tmcom do you have a bit of an aluminium chip on your shoulder or something? You have some strong opinions! (Also: I’m sure you’re aware, but yes you spell it ‘aluminum’ and we spell it ‘aluminium’, which explains the contrasting verbal pronunciation. ) See you in 2051 at some civilized location! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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