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When does thought transition to belief?


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17 hours ago, Habitat said:

Alcohol does play havoc with sleeping patterns, and whilst a few drinks can send people off to sleep, they often wake up in the middle of the night, and are no longer sleepy enough to go back off to sleep.

Hi Habitat

Yes, but I had hoped that you would see the broader context about drugs as well considering that there are many people who are prescribed medicine not to mention those that self medicate so It can range in effect from no dreams to very vivid and during times of detox quite terrifying. What would be interesting would be to know what their dream patterns were like with absolutely no intoxicants for a comparison as many people have spent from childhood on having to take medications and if different drugs were change or used in combination caused other affects in the dream state.

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40 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Diechecker

Thanks that is what I am trying to do but haven't found where it saves them to But did get one of the five pics done somehow I think.:huh::lol:

Kinda weird yesterday when I was trying to get all the new pictures onto my laptop and  it just wasn't happening after the pictures update loaded when I was scanning my phone and that was it it would not transfer so I used one of my desktops and exactly the same ting happened so I email these 5 to myself and copied them into a folder. There may have been some pop ups asking for me to do something as I was trying to do this while working on the house and wasn't at the computer all the time.

It has been 2 yrs since I last used paint so It may take a day but I will get it figured out like last time. :lol::tu:

jmccr8

@jmccr8; @DieChecker,

The other workaround for posting pictures direct to UM is to SMS the pic to yourself. MMS reduces it enough and quickly. 

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3 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

@jmccr8; @DieChecker,

The other workaround for posting pictures direct to UM is to SMS the pic to yourself. MMS reduces it enough and quickly. 

Hi Golden Duck

Thanks. :tu:

What the hell is an SMS or MMS. I bungle my way stubbornly knowing nothing about the tech I have so I will have to look that up?

And how did you do that blue thing to summon me?:lol:

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23 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Golden Duck

Thanks. :tu:

What the hell is an SMS or MMS. I bungle my way stubbornly knowing nothing about the tech I have so I will have to look that up?

And how did you do that blue thing to summon me?:lol:

jmccr8

SMS is Short Messaging Service - the texting part of your phone service. 

MMS is Multimedia Messaging Service - for sending media via SMS.  My Samsung Galaxy will reduce the size of a pic to send it via MMS - no using an app or anything.

The blue thing is just typing the at sign (@) followed by a few letter of the username.  A drop down box should appear with the name you want (if you've typoed enough letters) for you to click on.

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11 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

SMS is Short Messaging Service - the texting part of your phone service. 

MMS is Multimedia Messaging Service - for sending media via SMS.  My Samsung Galaxy will reduce the size of a pic to send it via MMS - no using an app or anything.

The blue thing is just typing the at sign (@) followed by a few letter of the username.  A drop down box should appear with the name you want (if you've typoed enough letters) for you to click on.

Hi Golden Duck

 okay I will look at my phone but use my computer to use the site as I don't like how using my phone works with those little buttons. I use a samsung note and take picture it has this rapid fire fuzzy bigfoot mode that's annoying, takes like 15-30 pics bam. I had to erase them all before even trying to transfer to my computer and I have no idea what activates it or cancels it. I guess I should download the manual and get to know what it really does but for me it's just for calls,texts,and pics.:huh::lol:

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On 10/11/2019 at 9:32 PM, Mr Walker said:

The more paranormal skills are real and can be used  Ones like controlled lucid dreaming

Lucid dreaming is not paranormal.

On 10/11/2019 at 9:32 PM, Mr Walker said:

Basically it appears that every human brain  stores everything it memorises.

Yes, that is the definition of 'memorises'.

On 10/11/2019 at 9:32 PM, Mr Walker said:

Once stored, potentially any fact etc can be recalled.

Ah yes, good ol' 'potentially' again.  When will you potentially be dunking a basketball?

On 10/11/2019 at 9:32 PM, Mr Walker said:

However one of Australia's  top neurologists on late night radio the other night was explaining the neurology behind memory

What is her or his name?  I would like to interpret what they said for myself.

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On 10/11/2019 at 8:19 PM, Mr Walker said:

I don't believe you. This only came up today so how did you speak to the neurologist and get back online 

Please prove your case with sources not anecdotal and unbelievable opinion (not doubting your neurologist but she may not even exist) 

Anyone of normal  reading abilty can find the sources which explain the nature and structure of memory y and why/how memories of dreams are identical memories of real events.

Plus why would "your " neurologist contradict one of the top  neurologists in Australia, speaking on national radio 

Evidences please :) 


You can remember dreams if you wake up during the REM stage and write them down or talk about them. The brain functions differently depending on if it is conscious or unconscious. The senses are not engaged in the same way during sleep as during the waking state, meaning the senses are not engaged with the environment In the same way as when you have an experience.
Meditation is the highest stage of consciousness one can reach and if you did reach it you wouldn’t know it. My doc said it is very hard to do this and if anyone claims they are “enlightened” it is nonsense. 

Neuroscience is not for layman with out a basic understanding of the field,, unfortunately, she was explaining to me how the brain hallucinates why some are nightmares and some are vivid and amazing like being in heaven, but it was beyond me, it sounded like blah blah blah something to do with certain brain receptions.

 

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48 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Meditation is the highest stage of consciousness one can reach and if you did reach it you wouldn’t know it

I remember the old old monk saying, "have you been in a car at night on a long straight road seeing the full moon following by your side all the way"

One of the most common experience mentioned is that the world seems to stop, frozen, fixed in its place. It is not reality that is so, it is the mind keeping up with the thought, like the moon seems to be fixed by your side. 

Or something like that... 

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42 minutes ago, third_eye said:

I remember the old old monk saying, "have you been in a car at night on a long straight road seeing the full moon following by your side all the way"

One of the most common experience mentioned is that the world seems to stop, frozen, fixed in its place. It is not reality that is so, it is the mind keeping up with the thought, like the moon seems to be fixed by your side. 

Or something like that... 

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Sounds like a matter of perspective 

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47 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

Sounds like a matter of perspective 

Not in the sense of planar perspective, more of a context of time / space perspective ...

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Hmm... is it the data that is most crucial?  or how we interpret the data?

Is it who votes that count in an election; or who counts the votes that decides matters?   (we could always ask chad)

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14 hours ago, third_eye said:

I remember the old old monk saying, "have you been in a car at night on a long straight road seeing the full moon following by your side all the way"

One of the most common experience mentioned is that the world seems to stop, frozen, fixed in its place. It is not reality that is so, it is the mind keeping up with the thought, like the moon seems to be fixed by your side. 

Or something like that... 

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Kinda like going to the stillness that is already there. 

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On 10/12/2019 at 5:36 PM, psyche101 said:

Of course not. I get it. Everyone here does, the late great Carl Sagan did. You simply refuse to factor in that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I just don't agree with you. I see how you are trying to justify your claims. Your trying to broadbrush evidences regardless of the claim. As I say, I know dogs exist. I know many people have dogs. People who have visits from God are regularly shown to be mentally unstable, irrational fanatics and fantasy prone. There's plenty of instances like that just like there are plenty of instances of people who have dogs. I can't think of a single verified instance where somebody has evidenced visits from aliens, gods and or alien gods. As such, its far more likely that the answer lies in the individual, not the supernatural. If an answer is known to exist, its the default over something claimed to exist, without any evidence whatsoever. 

I really don't think so. 

That is not an evidenced conclusion based on proofs. Its a choice.

Apples exist for instance. We know that. If one says they have an apple, that's very probable. We can accept the probability of that is high. We don't have God's at supermarket's and literally growing on trees. One can interpret certain aspects that befuddle them as acts of God, but that's not proof of God either. It's their choice to interpret a certain instance that way. 

Probability is what influences these decisions. Not faith. 

No, I can make a choice based on probability. The probability of your interpretation being different to actual reality is much much higher than it is that you are reporting an accurate description of your claimed experiences, abilities and life experiences. 

Again, you are brodbrushing to wash over the obvious. One might catch the world's biggest bream but have no evidence of that. People are known to catch fish. I've done it myself. There's no good reason to question if one caught a huge Bream. If the person said it was 2.5 meters long, well there's very good reason to consider the claim not to be true. They don't get that big. We can't probe that such a monster did not exist, but the probability is highly unlikely. 

If one brought a 2.5 meter bream to a university or fishery, then we would have to rewrite what we know about bream, but untill that point there's no reason to believe the claim, or suspend judgement. 

No its not. Just like with a 2.5 meter bream. 

Its not rational to suspend belief for the unlikely and improbable. 

This is Habits tactic. Argument from ignorance where the impossible remains as beyond the reach of evidence to dismiss or confirm either way. That's not validation or good reason to suspend conclusions. It does not validate your position. It weakens it.

37% of people seem to struggle with reality. That's a factor in the conclusions here too. 

You have been here a long time. You must have some idea. I know I do, I suspect everyone does. 

The only people who I have seen that accept your claims appear to also be extremely fantasy prone, making ridiculous claims, or like illy, just aggressively attacking others out of rage. It's not a good indicator. 

What is commonly referred to as 'woo'. 

That's not unusual. It's quite natural. People with unevidenced claims often have an alterior motive for deceiving someone else. It's just instinct. Sometimes the act is benign, sometimes not. I'd say most default to caution naturally. 

Not logical at all. There needs to be a genuine reason to suspend belief. 

The problem here is that your trying to box in a finite set of reasons so you can check them off one at a time and achieve credibility for your harder to believe claims. 

People don't work like that. Others might reject your claims for one of the above, all or none of them. Its not that simple. 

Fear is one I just can't see being a reason. What on earth could one possibly fear even in the unlikely event that your claims were evidenced to be factually and physically substantiated? 

The big one you missed is plain logic and common sense. That's what you are asking others to suspend in order to consider your claims as even realistically possible. 

I know you seem to believe this, but it's just not what I, or most others have experienced here. 

Its probably why people show a genuine interest in you.

You are a polite person, you would probably be a great neighbour in suburbia. You have some very strange ideas and beliefs, and you express yourself rather unconventionally often. There's a lot worse than you out there and even on these boards. You are harmless and at times quite likeable. A little strange sure, but really, who isn't.

I have no dog in this race. I've aired my protests with regards to our own discussions. I don't see either of us changing our views so as the Catholics say, peace be with you. 

The posters you are referring to seem quite familiar with your posting history. I imagine that a little digging and quoting would settle that dispute appropriately. 

First extraordinary is a vague and subjective term  Every claim requires the same level of proofs A proof is a proof or it is not a proof

The only difference is in how ready people are to  accept those proofs and that depends on things like their own experiences and their world view/ level of scepticism etc.

It should be clear

Just because you know apples exist goes nowhere to proving a claim that I ate one for lunch yesterday.  That claim requires (to be proven true) the same levels of proof as if i claimed to have  had lunch with a ;little grey man yesterday  Other wise i have not proven it to you. You have accepted the claim in good faith. Probabillty seems (for you)  to influence your faith or belief but it cannot affect the proofs and evidences available or required to meet a claim  

If something cannot be proven to be impossible then it remains possible. That is the nature of possibility/impossibility  Woo is a subjective term, deliberately used for its value laden content  it infers fantasy and ridicule  I would say that a hollow earth is woo because it is proven not to exist. Same for a flat earth . However it is not woo where it has not been proven false it is still an open question  The presence of aliens on earth, or ghosts, or many paranormal abilities are not woo,  just possibilities which have not been proven false. 

yes it is logical. Where something is not or cannot be known the logical and safest conclusion is to suspend both  belief and disbelief. Where somethng is known to be ipossible or false then belief should be denied  belief is not required for things we know

Maybe this is my humanities background coming out because in every humanities subject from  philosophy to politics,  history geography etc we are taught to suspend beoirf amd disbelief until we can know UNLESS we have another reason for constructing a belief or disbelieving based on personal need or world view.

This helps us in reaching a factual  conclusion because we begin with an open and unbiased mind. 

Logic and common sense doesn't help with unknowns eg it cant help you work out if there is other life in the solar system

It depends a lot on knowldge and especially personal knowledge.

If you have never encountered a ghost, logic might tell you they don't exist, but if you have encountered one, the same application of logic will tell you that the y do   

I am extremely logical and unemotional (with negative emotions)  i have spent most of my life trying to emulate Spock from star trek :) 

However I have very different life experiences from you, and I apply logic to them. Thus, i cant conclude that some things do not exist or are not possible because my experience proves to me that the  do or  It is not logical to try to disbelieve things you know to be true.   

 

lol strange  to you 

we are all strangers in a strange land

You seem strange (ie different and a t times incomprehensible) to me.

I agree.  As long as peole are harmless, strangeness is a given, that we should tolerate, and even welcome in,the name of diversity  

I agree that my life has been a little bit different to some others ( although most of it has been quite ordinary. it seems to me)  but there are many just like me.

My mother had many of the same abilities and put it down to some gypsy ancestry :) 

I wasn't really trying to box in reasons, but to show that there were many. The ones i listed are very common. but not exclusive 

Fear is the most common. Almost every human constructs their world view to eliminate uncertainty and the unknown.

The reason for this is that what we do not know is dangerous  and we fear what is dangerous. Hence our minds are evolved to fear the unknown and to construct explanations for all unknown phenomena We build, in our mind, belief and disbelief constructs which automatically default us to a safe  psychological position.

Thus disbelief (like belief ) is often a default construct to make us feel more secure that there are not unknowns out there which might be dangerous to us.

This is why strangeness and its associated unpredictability is feared, and why  people who are different to a community are often ostracised or poor;y treated  ie if you are not like me i cant predict how you will behave nd tha t makes you a potential threat 

  Very simply, belief in gods makes many people feel safer, but  for some, disbelief makes them feel safer. It depends on several variables, including how a person perceives gods and other authority figures, how much the y wish to feel in control of their own lives, and how much  control the y are prepared to place in the hands of others.

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On 10/12/2019 at 5:42 PM, jmccr8 said:

 

Hi Walker

I finally got the pictures off my phone to my pc no I just have to read up again on getting them down to the size allowed here but will be sending them out.

jmccr8

lol I got the pm long before reading these posts and wondered what on earth the y were for (although i found the  pictures very pretty) 

Sorry but the y do not prove a thing to me.

However i am prepared to believe what you have presented in good faith 

 

it s interesting because i got the pm long before this post. The y meant nothing to me. It even took me a while to associate the name with your forum handle

You see I dont even have any proof of who YOU are, so how can these photos actually be proof or evidences   

if i was a real sceptic i might even go so far as to suspect a hoax with a fake website for the gallery etc (although that would take too much time and effort to be rationally plausible)    

You know who you are.

You know that the pictures are real.

You know that the story associated with them is real but there is no way i could know unless I was there with you as it happened  

I am glad i found out what the pm was for, but its not enough to prove anything at all to me,  not even really that you are the person with that  name attached  Maybe you just assumed another identity  from  a friend or family member   

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On 10/12/2019 at 9:55 PM, Golden Duck said:

How do you "just ignore" the witch? 

To me it's  like making sure your shot at goal doesn't go over the top. Or watching the hazard your trying to avoid instead of watching the space you want to go.

Visualising what you don't want to happen.

 

Statistics show that the best probability of getting past a keeper is to kick/hit the ball right at them A keeper almost never stands still but makes a choice to move as you are lining up to kick/hit  Thus if you aim straight a t him, there is the highest probability you will get the ball past him (or her) 

sorry if this confused you golden duck.

It doesn't really respond to your excellent point about visualisation, but adds a bit of helpful advice from  the television series , QI  

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On 10/13/2019 at 3:28 AM, quiXilver said:

The Tibetans have an entire course of higher study and skill training related to the world of dreaming.

Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche:  Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep.  Is a very practical book that shares many functional skills to enhance the ability to work on awareness and the relation of the self, while in dreaming awareness. 

"real life" In Tibetan cosmology, is akin to the shared dreaming aspect of conscious awareness.  Whereas dreams are private, waking life is co-active dreaming.

Private dreams shift and alter instantly, influenced by one facet of local awareness, whereas 'real life', shifts slowly as it is the resulting manifestation expression of multitudes of facets of awareness all co-acting.  Yet hard to deny, that thoughts, bring about shifts in physical reality.  Thought, communication (perhaps), action, then manifestation.  Thought affects physical reality.

Awareness is like a gem to me.  Many facets.  Not all reflect source the same, yet all are part of one fluid, connected process.  My local awareness is one facet and reflects the light of source/awareness subjectively.  This is why I no longer strive to alter other's notions of life, but only seek to share.  I inherently suspect that my reflected awareness of source, will not necessarily ever coincide directly with another's... nor should it.  If it were to exactly coincide, then it would not be another facet of the gem.

Dreams for me, are so wholly immersive and so detailed as to rival and often surpass in memory and impact, many experiences of the 'real world' of sensory input.  Dreams are as real when I'm in them as this keyboard and screen with the smell of coffee lingering.  Afterwards, upon waking, or in the dream when becoming lucid the realization may hit "oh this is a dream".  Yet even with this awareness, the effects of the world of the dream are still just as vivid, just as impacting. 

Fascinating.  Dreams are thoughts.  Yet I can move through them as i move through the 'real world'  as immersive, even moreso often, due to their potentially much more fantastical and suprarealistic vividness.

They engender emotional response that elicits as much reactivity as any actions in the 'waking world', but in the end, dreams are vivid thoughts... imaginings.  Yet if the world can be recreated so viscerally and vividly in mind only... subjectively.  What does this say about our very internal generation of a picture of the world, through the interpretation of the transduction of electrical signals in our sensory organs?

Sherapy... has your neurologist seen any of the images of the areas of mind being lit up when a person sees an object and holds it, say an apple, versus when they just think about holding said object?  I've read that the exact same aspects of the brain light up whether we are holding an apple and looking at it, versus thinking about holding it... hinting that our entire perception of reality is akin to an hallucination.

I'm fascinated by the potential of EMDR treatment for complex PTSD.  As my wife has been in a six year spiral of trauma release and healing.  Dream eye Movement and how this aids in processing complex emotions related to trauma have been gaining some traction lately.

This interaction of local awareness with dreaming was my first inroad into exploring, playing and eventually training local awareness through meditation, entheogenic chemicals, isolation, shared dreaming experiments and a myriad of consciousness affecting breathing techniques.  Consciousness is so fluid, as I have experienced it.  It oscillates, expands, contracts, isolates, accomodates... it's endlessly fluid/vaporous, non physical, yet physically impacting.

My first memory in this life, is of a nightmare so real and horrific, it led to my first out of body experience.  In the dream, I ride down the stairs of our home.  At the basement level I turn to the left and from behind the water heater, comes a hooded man wielding a headsman's axe.  I turn and begin crawling up the stairs.  Eventually near the top, I slip and begin to slide down.  I can feel the carpet slide under my fingers and arms as I try to grasp on.  I hear the steps of the headsman and know... with absolute dream certainty that as I reach the last step, the axe will descend and split me in two.

In my desperation to escape the situation, I suddenly find I am looking down on a small red headed boy, asleep in bed.  I was three-ish. 

All emotion vanished in the shock of the new image.  Serene sleepy boy, totally quiet house.

When this thought arose... "is that me?"  I snapped awake in bed, looking up at the spot where I'd just been gazing down from a moment before.

 

Now perhaps the floating awareness of the body was also dream induced.  and I wasn't truly out of body.  Totally possible and even plausible.  Yet undeniably, in my life experience.  The thoughts and visceral emotional responses of the dream impacted me in a very real manner.  For years later, when I first encountered the notion of death, I found I had no fear of it.  After that dream and the experience of looking on 'my own body' with the same conscious awareness that is looking at this screen, I inherently knew that the body was not the manufacturer of awareness, but a method of interacting with it.

 

This has been rather instrumental in my experience that awareness gives rise to phenomenon, not vice versa.

 

Thoughts are real to a point.  Real enough to impact my experience of myself.  Yet just because I think something and perhaps even feel strongly about it, doesn't make it real, true, or even important.  They're just thoughts.  Yet some thoughts lead to realizations about the nature of myself, that make them as real as anything ever could be.

 

Paradoxical and awesome and strange and wonderful.  What a great conversation.  So grateful for you all.  Not selling anything, just sharing and at this point badly rambling.  Dreams, Thoughts, Memories, Waking Life... all facets of a gem of awareness.  A gem that accomodates all aspects, not just human.  Stone, insect, elemental.

There is now, after decades of pursuit, training and exploring always underlying all of it, a sense of a playful quality to awareness... to the dance of life and living... like a palpable sense of Maya playing the game of masks in Samsara and through the play of public co-arising and entirely personally generated illusions combined, that allow me to explore my true nature through the dance of awareness... in a way that takes the seriousness out of it, without draining it of sincerity. 

I am very seldom ever serious any longer, yet I am always unfolding and exploring in awareness with a sense of profound sincerity and a growing gratitude.

 

If any of you've read this far... lol and thank you.  This much verbage feels like a massive indulgence.

Gratitude and Love for taking your time to share your thoughts here... they are as invaluable as they are transitory, which is to say, I appreciate them all the more, as you may have all decided to spend what attention you have on something else and I'd have been denied this lovely unfolding...

 

Excellent and very interesting post.

Nice to have confirmation that others have a similar quality of dream life  and that it is both an integrated pert of, and  a functional adjunct to, the totality of life both waking and sleeping  Ie dreams can heal teach inform our waking selves Our waking selves can have the same effects within our dreams  So our dreams can heal psychological wounds of waking life, and waking life can eliminate fears etc from our dreams and construct the dreamscapes we want.       

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On 10/13/2019 at 12:46 PM, jmccr8 said:

Hi Habitat

Yes, but I had hoped that you would see the broader context about drugs as well considering that there are many people who are prescribed medicine not to mention those that self medicate so It can range in effect from no dreams to very vivid and during times of detox quite terrifying. What would be interesting would be to know what their dream patterns were like with absolutely no intoxicants for a comparison as many people have spent from childhood on having to take medications and if different drugs were change or used in combination caused other affects in the dream state.

jmccr8

Well I went from  aged 22 to aged 54 without taking a single drug, either prescribed or non prescribed,  (And that includes alcohol )   It even includes anything other than mild and  very occasional pain relief like aspirin.

And you know how i turned out :)  

Ive found the biggest variant is the amount of sleep i have.

if i have more sleep than i need then i sleep lightly and  i remember all my dreams, but if i sleep deeply. due to tiredness. it is often hard to recall all my dreams 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

Sorry but the y do not prove a thing to me.

However i am prepared to believe what you have presented in good faith 

Hi Walker

Thanks for the response, I sent links on both the artist and the gallery that has contact information so who I am and my participation can be documented and is why I gave them.

6 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

You see I dont even have any proof of who YOU are, so how can these photos actually be proof or evidences   

There are volumes of documentation that exist about who I am but the point of the exercise was to show that I was present and worked on the project and if you did some homework with what I have given you will find that it did happen and I was there. I have posted my name as you see it on the back of the print several times here in the forum over the last few years, even once to you when you had commented by calling me James.

11 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

if i was a real sceptic i might even go so far as to suspect a hoax with a fake website for the gallery etc (although that would take too much time and effort to be rationally plausible)

Look, I had a hell of a time resizing the pics so creating hoax websites is obviously beyond my digital skill level.:lol:

15 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

You know who you are.

Yes I do

15 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

You know that the pictures are real.

Yes I do

16 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

You know that the story associated with them is real but there is no way i could know unless I was there with you as it happened  

Or you could just contact Wilf or the gallery and they can verify what I have said and they likely have pics of me working on site because they kept a photo log of the whole project.

18 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

I am glad i found out what the pm was for, but its not enough to prove anything at all to me,  not even really that you are the person with that  name attached  Maybe you just assumed another identity  from  a friend or family member 

Walker, I gave what I said I would whether you chose to deny or accept is your baby and I do have a drivers lic which is photo ID.:lol:

jmccr8

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On 10/14/2019 at 1:05 AM, Liquid Gardens said:

Lucid dreaming is not paranormal.

Yes, that is the definition of 'memorises'.

Ah yes, good ol' 'potentially' again.  When will you potentially be dunking a basketball?

What is her or his name?  I would like to interpret what they said for myself.

Nothing is actually paranormal But many posters have told me that controlled lucid dreaming and consciously constructing dreams is just as impossible as meeting an angel  :) 

The point was that we often do not place things we see or hear into our memory and thus cannot re call them Once they are in there, they remain forever 

Potentially means that the human mind is capable of this and some humans do it 

I played basketball  for a few years and a lot of informal play with teenagers on the school courts   I suspect my dunking days are done  :) 

Sorry It was a week ago  (mon night) on late night ABC.  About 10 pm est.   If i have time i will check  to see if there  is a pod cast  

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6 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Walker

Thanks for the response, I sent links on both the artist and the gallery that has contact information so who I am and my participation can be documented and is why I gave them.

There are volumes of documentation that exist about who I am but the point of the exercise was to show that I was present and worked on the project and if you did some homework with what I have given you will find that it did happen and I was there. I have posted my name as you see it on the back of the print several times here in the forum over the last few years, even once to you when you had commented by calling me James.

Look, I had a hell of a time resizing the pics so creating hoax websites is obviously beyond my digital skill level.:lol:

Yes I do

Yes I do

Or you could just contact Wilf or the gallery and they can verify what I have said and they likely have pics of me working on site because they kept a photo log of the whole project.

Walker, I gave what I said I would whether you chose to deny or accept is your baby and I do have a drivers lic which is photo ID.:lol:

jmccr8

how do i KNOW tha t wolf or the gallery are telling the truth 'Y0u" might have put them up to it? 

Sorry don' t mean to be difficult (well actually i do ) :) 

I do believe you BUT that is a matter of belief not knowledge 

This is the same reason i cant prove anything from my past to anyone else online. I could give you witnesses but you wouldn't know if THEY were telling the truth either. 

I really truly appreciate the effort especially given my own problem with resizing pictures) but it doesn't PROVE anything to me .

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1 hour ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Walker

Thanks for the response, I sent links on both the artist and the gallery that has contact information so who I am and my participation can be documented and is why I gave them.

There are volumes of documentation that exist about who I am but the point of the exercise was to show that I was present and worked on the project and if you did some homework with what I have given you will find that it did happen and I was there. I have posted my name as you see it on the back of the print several times here in the forum over the last few years, even once to you when you had commented by calling me James.

Look, I had a hell of a time resizing the pics so creating hoax websites is obviously beyond my digital skill level.:lol:

Yes I do

Yes I do

Or you could just contact Wilf or the gallery and they can verify what I have said and they likely have pics of me working on site because they kept a photo log of the whole project.

Walker, I gave what I said I would whether you chose to deny or accept is your baby and I do have a drivers lic which is photo ID.:lol:

jmccr8

Ha ha ha ha he argued the same thing on the picture I posted of my dog Zenny. 
 

 

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48 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

Statistics show that the best probability of getting past a keeper is to kick/hit the ball right at them A keeper almost never stands still but makes a choice to move as you are lining up to kick/hit  Thus if you aim straight a t him, there is the highest probability you will get the ball past him (or her) 

sorry if this confused you golden duck.

It doesn't really respond to your excellent point about visualisation, but adds a bit of helpful advice from  the television series , QI  

That's not particularly relevant to Visualisation in Sports Psychology.

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47 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Walker

Thanks for the response, I sent links on both the artist and the gallery that has contact information so who I am and my participation can be documented and is why I gave them.

There are volumes of documentation that exist about who I am but the point of the exercise was to show that I was present and worked on the project and if you did some homework with what I have given you will find that it did happen and I was there. I have posted my name as you see it on the back of the print several times here in the forum over the last few years, even once to you when you had commented by calling me James.

Look, I had a hell of a time resizing the pics so creating hoax websites is obviously beyond my digital skill level.:lol:

Yes I do

Yes I do

Or you could just contact Wilf or the gallery and they can verify what I have said and they likely have pics of me working on site because they kept a photo log of the whole project.

Walker, I gave what I said I would whether you chose to deny or accept is your baby and I do have a drivers lic which is photo ID.:lol:

jmccr8

The JMCCR8 taped to the pic worked for me and I know your real first name from past pm’s. If you read the note on the back it has your real name. I also know what you look like. :P

Why would you go to all that trouble to lie, including contacting the company to lie for you in the event MW inquires. Ha ha ha ha ha 

That level of paranoia when someone tries to evidence a claim seems bizarre to me.

Walls just wants his claims of a talking light to be taken on faith, and he wants us to shake him down, interrogate him if he claims to have eaten an apple for breakfast, how dare you believe he could have eaten an apple but not the a light bulb is really an alien god who is an addiction specialist with genie powers. ;)

 

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8 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

The JMCCR8 taped to the pic worked for me and I know your real first name from past pm’s. I also know what you look like. 

Why would you go to all that trouble to lie, including contacting the company to lie for you? 

That level of paranoia when someone tries to evidence a claim seems bizarre to me.

 

Hi Sherapy

Well, Walker didn't want to invest in my cloning lab so he likely thinks I'm running the Gatsby on him.:lol:

I don't have anything to gain by deception and he really doesn't have anything that I want other than productive discussion.

jmccr8

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