+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #76 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Setton said: Now, I don't count myself a very good Christian. But what does that make YOU? Judge not least thee be judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted June 27, 2019 #77 Share Posted June 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Setton said: Set up alternative facilities. They needn't be expensive. All people are asking for is soap, toothbrushes and a light switch. wow, what a brilliant idea, why haven't we thought of that, lamo, do you know how long it takes to set up such facility? feel free to send them all memos to bring their own toothbrushes, soap and light switches when they illegally enter our country, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #78 Share Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Setton said: The US is literally providing worse care to illegal immigrants than middle eastern militias give to convicted terrorists. Ummmmm...yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #79 Share Posted June 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Setton said: Why is it that the SDF can provide adequate detention facilities for >100,000 ISIL members and refugees but the US, the richest country in the world, can't provide the same for migrants on its southern border? Because they plan on recruiting them later and are softening them up to work for their new boss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #80 Share Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, OverSword said: Judge not least thee be judged. I said I'm not very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #81 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, aztek said: wow, what a brilliant idea, why haven't we thought of that, lamo, do you know how long it takes to set up such facility? feel free to send them all memos to bring their own toothbrushes, soap and light switches when they illegally enter our country, I have no idea why you haven't thought of it. A toothbrush is not that new an invention. 7 minutes ago, OverSword said: Because they plan on recruiting them later and are softening them up to work for their new boss. Yeah.... no. Edited June 27, 2019 by Setton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted June 27, 2019 #82 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Setton said: So, are you going to answer my question or has reality put you in your place? i just did, the part you quoted was not it, nice try, but you fail again, as always Edited June 27, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #83 Share Posted June 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, aztek said: 1. prove the bold statement, i do not believe it for a second https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hawl_refugee_camp That was literally 2 seconds work. They also manage a number of other camps in northern Syria. Quote 2. you mean criminals that brake into our country illegally and ignore our laws????? they are treated better than they deserve, maybe they should brake into middle eastern countries instead, so they are treated better by middle eastern militias Well, you'll first have to establish if they're claiming asylum but, hypothetically, yes that's them. So in your mind, is illegal immigration a worse crime than terrorism? Should also mention that the SDF run the camps the way they do based on US direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #84 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Setton said: I have no idea why you haven't thought of it. A toothbrush is not that new an invention. There are no facilities already in the area thus no infrastructure built to supply water and electricity. That's one excuse. What ever happened to sending them to sanctuary cities though. I live in one, wouldn't bother me a bit to have people that ran for their lives from El Salvador here honestly. Come to think of it there are so many immigrants in NYC that if we put there Aztec wouldn't notice the difference Edited June 27, 2019 by OverSword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #85 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, aztek said: i just did, the part you quoted was not it, Yes, I missed it on the previous page. See above for follow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #86 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, OverSword said: There are no facilities already in the area thus no infrastructure built to supply water and electricity. That's one excuse. What ever happened to sending them to sanctuary cities though. I live in one, wouldn't bother me a bit to have people that ran for their lives from El Salvador here honestly. Not entirely sure how they keep the lights on 24/7 with no electricity.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted June 27, 2019 #87 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Setton said: Well that makes everything fine, I guess. The new bar we set for the 'leader of the free world' and most powerful nation on earth: Not actually a Nazi. White supremacists is okay, though, it seems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #88 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: White supremacists is okay, though, it seems Hey, he's not a nazi so it's all good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #89 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Setton said: Not entirely sure how they keep the lights on 24/7 with no electricity.... You're talking about in the middle of nowhere. The power lines, transformers, routers etc. are probably 1. 50 years old, 2. the minimum it necessary for what they're already doing. You're not talking about LA or NY, you're talking about cattle country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #90 Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, OverSword said: Come to think of it there are so many immigrants in NYC that if we put there Aztec wouldn't notice the difference @aztek @RoofGardener OverSword has solved your problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted June 27, 2019 #91 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Setton said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hawl_refugee_camp That was literally 2 seconds work. They also manage a number of other camps in northern Syria. those are not Quote convicted terrorists. those are displaced refugees. again you fail. even at misrepresentation, favorite tool of lefties and libs, and you can't even use that correctly, lamo Quote So in your mind, is illegal immigration a worse crime than terrorism? in my mind they are braking our laws, i did not compare them to terrorists, you did. but i treat them more or less the same, not to mention they have no grounds to ask for asylum either, us is not the first country on their way, nor Mexicans have any grounds either, since there is no war, no natural disasters, nor they are politically prosecuted, but you either do not know any of that or ignore it cuz it does not fit your agenda, in either case it is making you not worthy to talk on the issue anymore dumb questions? Edited June 27, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #92 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: You're talking about in the middle of nowhere. The power lines, transformers, routers etc. are probably 1. 50 years old, 2. the minimum it necessary for what they're already doing. You're not talking about LA or NY, you're talking about cattle country. I'd suggest a starting point then of adding windows. That way, you only need to have the lights on for a few hours a day (say 6). By not having them on 24/7, you now have enough supply for 3 new camps without spending a single taxpayer $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #93 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, aztek said: those are notthose are displaced refugees. You didn't read the link did you? Quote The refugees include Syrian and Iraqi civilians and their families, Islamic State group fighters and their families and international foreigners and their children. Quote again you fail.even at misrepresentation, favorite tool of lefties and libs, and you can't even use that correctly, lamo Uhuh... ^^^ Quote in my mind they are braking our laws, i did not compare them to terrorists, you did. I didn't claim you did (ooh, look misrepresentation, welcome to the Liberal lefty club - I'll get you a nice rainbow jacket). Absolutely I compared the two. The US advised the SDF to provide adequate sanitation for terrorists. It also does not provide that for children of illegal immigrants. I wanted to know which you think is worse. Quote but i treat them more or less the same, Got it. So a child crossing a border illegally deserves the same treatment as a man who cut the heads off little girls. As always, your answers are certainly illuminating. Quote not to mention they have no grounds to ask for asylum either, us is not the first country on their way, nor Mexicans have any grounds either, since there is no war, no natural disasters, not they are politically prosecuted, but you either do not know any of that or ignore it cuz it does not fit your agenda, in either case it is making you not worthy to talk on the issue As I said, it is not relevant to the question of providing adequate sanitation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #94 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Setton said: I'd suggest a starting point then of adding windows. That way, you only need to have the lights on for a few hours a day (say 6). By not having them on 24/7, you now have enough supply for 3 new camps without spending a single taxpayer $. It doesn't work that way, because we have pretty strict building codes on any new buildings, homes etc. If there isn't adequate infrastructure to supply water, electricity and maybe natural gas permits will not be issued. Insurance companies will not issue liability coverage if they do so happen to get permission to build sub standard structures, and without that coverage no construction company will touch it. Believe my earlier post, this issue is much more complicated than 99% of people realize. Our politicians know this but keep egging people on over it for political talking points. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted June 27, 2019 #95 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, Setton said: Got it............... well i'm glad you did. a child, you mean like those ms13 kids that came here as daca kids? yea those they are responsible for half a dosen of killed kids in long island alone. , yea i treat them the same as man who cut the heads off little girls. or boys. the bigger question is why don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #96 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: It doesn't work that way, because we have pretty strict building codes on any new buildings, homes etc. If there isn't adequate infrastructure to supply water, electricity and maybe natural gas permits will not be issued. Insurance companies will not issue liability coverage if they do so happen to get permission to build sub standard structures, and without that coverage no construction company will touch it. Believe my earlier post, this issue is much more complicated than 99% of people realize. Our politicians know this but keep egging people on over it for political talking points. I'm sure it is and I was being facetious. But, to return to the point, remember, the administration has not said its too difficult/expensive to put better facilities in place, they've said the current ones are fine. Do you agree with that assessment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted June 27, 2019 #97 Share Posted June 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, aztek said: well i'm glad you did. a child, you mean like those ms13 kids that came here as daca kids? And the ones who aren't in gangs? Who just came with their parents? Quote yea those they are responsible for half a dosen of killed kids in long island alone. , yea i treat them the same as man who cut the heads off little girls. or boys. the bigger question is why don't you? So you'll be petitioning the government to provide soap and toothbrushes then? Your government thinks those should be provided to terrorists and you just said they should be treated the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #98 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Setton said: I'm sure it is and I was being facetious. But, to return to the point, remember, the administration has not said its too difficult/expensive to put better facilities in place, they've said the current ones are fine. Do you agree with that assessment? Doesn't seem like that's true. I haven't been there myself and I know that the truth is we are getting very lopsided propaganda more than actual news or detailed facts but if the plan is to just deport them ASAP then they probably think the current facilities are good enough. Regardless everyone knows half of the public statements trump makes are complete bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 27, 2019 #99 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Setton said: So you'll be petitioning the government to provide soap and toothbrushes then? Your government thinks those should be provided to terrorists and you just said they should be treated the same. So send them to Guantanamo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted June 27, 2019 #100 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Setton said: And the ones who aren't in gangs? Who just came with their parents? So you'll be petitioning the government to provide soap and toothbrushes then? Your government thinks those should be provided to terrorists and you just said they should be treated the same. came here illegally? i do not care frankly, none of them would be in their position if they did not come here illegally. that is all there is to it. nope, not a chance. they should have brought their own, see that is the attitude right there, they could not even bring their own brushes?????? wtf did they expect, we will provide them with everything? yep, i said what i said and gvmnt does what it does, what exactly are you asking here? Edited June 27, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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