Essan Posted December 3, 2019 #876 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 hours ago, tmcom said: And our first day of summer was the coldest in a century. And our pre - summer so far has been a phizzer, or we are getting a mild winter, instead of hot days, (like we used to). You need to move to Perth https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-03/perth-hot-weather-smashes-december-heat-record/11762656 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1029 Posted December 3, 2019 #877 Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 hours ago, tmcom said: And our first day of summer was the coldest in a century. And our pre - summer so far has been a phizzer, or we are getting a mild winter, instead of hot days, (like we used to). Adding to the US, having harsher winters, and an eary winter, going by Colorado videos, or the planet is cooling. And l am going to Gold Plate the Ignore Button! You are mistaking weather for climate. Weather is what you see when you look out the window. Climate is a statistic, a 30-year average. "Normal" is everything within 34% of the average. Outside of that range, one can argue about what is or isn't "normal," but climate scientists use +/- 1.96 times the standard error plus the mean as the limit. An event has to fall outside that range to be considered unusual. If it doesn't, there has been no change. About snowfall, ice storms, etc.: Those form near the freezing point. Ice storms occur only between 26F and 33F. Snow usually occurs in that same range. Why? Because as snow/ice form they remove moisture from the air so that when temps drop below about 26F, there is no more moisture in the air to form ice/snow. Thus, snowfall is a poor way to gauge climate change; it has more to do with humidity than it does with temperature. Besides, Colorado's precip is extremely variable in its occurrence. The US, in general, is not having harsher winters. That is occurring only in the northeast - New England and the Lake States. That occurred sporadically between 2002 and 2012 and has been occurring every year since. We have established a "new normal." Note that these harsh winters occur only when global mean temp rises above 0.60C above the baseline. We could stop them by bringing the global mean temp back down to base+0.60. About Colorado: that is normal snowfall for this time of year. A foot of snow usually has about an inch of water in it. So that storm represented about one inch of moisture. Longmont's annual precip is about 15 inches, so that storm put down about 6.7% of the year's precip. Not at all unusual in a place that may get one third of its annual precip in just one storm. The only thing unusual about this storm is that it occurred earlier than usual. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1029 Posted December 3, 2019 #878 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Essan said: You need to move to Perth https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-03/perth-hot-weather-smashes-december-heat-record/11762656 tmcom is cherry-picking his data. He told us about the cold November, but forgot the heat wave in December. That these are both unusual events supports the global warming hypothesis. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcom Posted December 3, 2019 Author #879 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Can't decide between silver or gold,....silver l think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1029 Posted December 3, 2019 #880 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, tmcom said: Can't decide between silver or gold,....silver l think. If you're into heraldry, use silver. It has the higher heraldic rank. But gold usually brings the higher price and tRUMP likes it, so if you're a fan of his, use gold. Hope that helps. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcom Posted December 4, 2019 Author #881 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcom Posted December 4, 2019 Author #882 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Quote Retain relevant information like goldfish, or flap around like seals - quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted December 4, 2019 #883 Share Posted December 4, 2019 23 hours ago, tmcom said: Can't decide between silver or gold,....silver l think. Seriously, it doesn't seem as though you've listened to a word I said. Ultimately if you are only going to post climate denial propaganda videos with smug emotes and announce that you are putting everyone with an opposing viewpoint on ignore then this is no longer a discussion and there seems little reason to keep this thread going. People are taking the time to offer reasoned arguments and all you are doing is messing them around. Closed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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