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Maya acoustics: Chichen Itza


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12 minutes ago, Windowpane said:

 

It appears that other people have become exasperated with this in the past ...

Thanks. Yep a serial poster just going over the same stuff endlessly.

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35 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

Thanks. Yep a serial poster just going over the same stuff endlessly.

El Caracol is new.  My thread starter summary has been presented to the experts. We shall see.  Over and out

WVK

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15 minutes ago, WVK said:

El Caracol is new.  My thread starter summary has been presented to the experts. We shall see.  Over and out

WVK

1) You would be well served to provide additional background in regards to your "references" (see WVK #1).

To be more specific, what is the ASA? Or the AJA? What is their level of research credibility? Kindly provide direct access to these sources, as they do not appear to be well established or represented in the professional literature.

And what are the readers to think of the "Second Pan-American/Iberian Meeting on Acoustics"? Not to mention rather exotic meeting places such as Hawaii.

Your "presentations" have all the hallmarks of a small group of dilettantes who pretend to conduct research as a front for rather affluent social engagements.

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On 6/13/2019 at 9:32 AM, WVK said:

Sonic crystals are, I believe, considered a recent discovery.

http://personales.upv.es/~virogar1/Personal_web_page/Research_lines/Entradas/2013/7/3_Sonic_Crystal_Acoustic_Barriers.html

The Maya discovered this hundreds of years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z28YxbZW00o

 

I seriously doubt this.

Sonic crystals (aka acoustic metamaterial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_metamaterial) require an extremely pure form of the substance (which the Maya had no way of creating... and most crystals found in nature have various imperfections) and require a very regular shape.  If you can point to a find at a Maya excavation of a group of crystals all of the same size and shape and same composition, arranged in a barrier shape, then you can certainly claim that the Maya may have discovered this.

So far, you haven't shown any evidence that they could create a chemical compound of a very precise and consistent nature.

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3 hours ago, Kenemet said:

So far, you haven't shown any evidence that they could create a chemical compound of a very precise and consistent nature.

Do you mean he has no concrete evidence? :yes:

4 hours ago, Swede said:

Your "presentations" have all the hallmarks of a small group of dilettantes who pretend to conduct research as a front for rather affluent social engagements.

He needs to cement his reputation. ^_^

7 hours ago, Hanslune said:

Thanks. Yep a serial poster just going over the same stuff endlessly.

That's the mortar of his debate. :o

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Maybe he's just plastered.

Harte

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1 hour ago, Harte said:

Maybe he's just plastered.

Harte

Maybe he's just plastered, by the sound of it. 

Just adding to it for the acustical characteristcs.

I still have my AR 3a improved loudsppeakers, through which I listen to my music. AR= Acustical Research.

 

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16 minutes ago, Pettytalk said:

Maybe he's just plastered, by the sound of it. 

Just adding to it for the acustical characteristcs.

I still have my AR 3a improved loudsppeakers, through which I listen to my music. AR= Acustical Research.

 

Hi Pettytalk

Years ago a friend of mine was running some Dayton Wrights powered by a McIntosh amp that he lent to the Centre of Arts for a Muddy Waters concert back home that kicked some serious ass and in his living room was a mind-bending experience. The only problem with the speakers was that he had to ship them back to Montreal every couple of years to have the gas recharged at a cost that would for many spend on a good audio system.

DW Electrostatic Speakers XG-8 Mk III

McIntosh MC-2300 - Wikipedia

jmccr8

 

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10 hours ago, Swede said:

... what is the ASA? Or the AJA? What is their level of research credibility? Kindly provide direct access to these sources, as they do not appear to be well established or represented in the professional literature ...

I would imagine the ASA was the Acoustical Society of America.

Similarly, I would guess that AJA was the American Journal of Archaeology.

But, really, in a context where readers could be confused by unfamiliar acronyms, such readers shouldn't be forced to rely on imagination and guesswork.

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4 hours ago, Pettytalk said:

I still have my AR 3a improved loudsppeakers, through which I listen to my music. AR= Acustical Research.

Had AR2 ax back in the day couldn't afford a Mac 

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2 hours ago, WVK said:

Had AR2 ax back in the day couldn't afford a Mac 

Had those too, but sold them for the 3A. I also owned the one-way AR 1, so small and yet so powerful and clean sounding. The entire old AR line was one of the finest in those early days of stereo sound reproduction, especially for classical music. I have also owned Infinity, and Bose loudspeakers. And besides my heirlooms ARs still own JBLs, Klipshs, and Jensens, driven by Carver and Nakamichi amps and preamps.

Those were the good old days of two-channel High Fidelity sound. Nowadays we have only echos of the past, with the home theater multichannel setup.

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19 minutes ago, Pettytalk said:

Had those too, but sold them for the 3A. I also owned the one-way AR 1, so small and yet so powerful and clean sounding. The entire old AR line was one of the finest in those early days of stereo sound reproduction, especially for classical music. I have also owned Infinity, and Bose loudspeakers. And besides my heirlooms ARs still own JBLs, Klipshs, and Jensens, driven by Carver and Nakamichi amps and preamps.

Those were the good old days of two-channel High Fidelity sound. Nowadays we have only echos of the past, with the home theater multichannel setup.

Hi Pettytalk

I still have my old Japanese sony spontaneous twin drive amp that I used to blow speakers up with but don't run it anymore because everything is hdmi so I bought an Onkyo amp so I can run the one computer through it when I am using the projector but it has nowhere near the same power but the sound quality is top notch and can add 4 more speakers off of my Velodyne sub if I want to.

jmccr8

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16 hours ago, Swede said:

To be more specific, what is the ASA? Or the AJA? What is their level of research credibility? Kindly provide direct access to these sources, as they do not appear to be well established or represented in the professional literature.

And what are the readers to think of the "Second Pan-American/Iberian Meeting on Acoustics"? Not to mention rather exotic meeting places such as Hawaii.

Asumption, the mother of all foul-ups

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12 minutes ago, WVK said:

Asumption, the mother of all foul-ups

Yes, and after your assumption about free-standing pillars in front of the temple, I imagine you’re keenly aware of that. 

—Jaylemurph 

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11 hours ago, Windowpane said:

I would imagine the ASA was the Acoustical Society of America.

Similarly, I would guess that AJA was the American Journal of Archaeology.

But, really, in a context where readers could be confused by unfamiliar acronyms, such readers shouldn't be forced to rely on imagination and guesswork.

After some research, you would be correct in regards to the ASA. The AJA was a typo error on my part and should have read ASJ. The research shows that this acronym stands for the Acoustical Society of Japan.

We thus have incidental presentations by individuals with no specific Meso-American archaeology background.

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5 hours ago, WVK said:

Asumption, the mother of all foul-ups

Assumptions? Merely questions regarding your reference material. Which you were apparently not able to provide.

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2 hours ago, Swede said:

After some research, you would be correct in regards to the ASA. The AJA was a typo error on my part and should have read ASJ. The research shows that this acronym stands for the Acoustical Society of Japan.

We thus have incidental presentations by individuals with no specific Meso-American archaeology background.

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There you go Swede thinking that people who have spent their lives studying something might know something about it..............that's a pretty radical 'assumption.Yeah  a month ago I had a wisdom tooth pulled - now a non-thinker would ask a dentist or oral surgeon - a deep thinker would ask a used car salesperson......lol

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13 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

There you go Swede thinking that people who have spent their lives studying something might know something about it..............that's a pretty radical 'assumption.

What would a Mayanist with decades of experience and education like you know? :rolleyes: 

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5 minutes ago, Piney said:

What would a Mayanist with decades of experience and education like you know? :rolleyes: 

Well having worked at CI in the 70's during the summer months for three years I can tell you they - the buildings - are modified from the originals, some a lot some not much - it depended on luck, what the Spanish modified (they used the Castillo as a fort if i recall) not intentionally but in many cases the archaeologists, Mexican officials and engineers had to make due - they didn't have plans or anything...and very little money.

I transferred to Bronze age Cyprus studies  in the 80's. Then to other careers but have always kept my hand in - as it were.

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1 hour ago, Hanslune said:

There you go Swede thinking that people who have spent their lives studying something might know something about it..............that's a pretty radical 'assumption.Yeah  a month ago I had a wisdom tooth pulled - now a non-thinker would ask a dentist or oral surgeon - a deep thinker would ask a used car salesperson......lol

I have a tooth I'd like you to take a look at:

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Harte

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39 minutes ago, Harte said:

I have a tooth I'd like you to take a look at:

What the hell did you do to your hair???? :huh:

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