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5 hours ago, OverSword said:

Ummm, okay.  I know where you're coming from but really don't see where our media is trying to turn us into communist's.  You're exaggerating.

Regardless this is not even close to the same situation.  The Chinese media are spreading this narrative to justify a future crackdown on the Hong Kong protests that will have the full support and sympathy of the mainland proletariat.

if you can't see it then the media already has you fooled.  It isn't an exaggeration by any means nor a conspiracy theory. 

The media does the exact same thing, except they use groups like ANTIFA, PETA,ACORN Planned Parenthood, and now law enforcement agencies like the FBI  and the TSA and on occasion the EPA.  The socialists/communists that have taken over the democrat party use the media to pipe their music and then before you know it the media is covering reports of how ANTIFA and the like are doing a great job at protesting, or agencies are doing a great job at their job because it suits their narrative and they managed to corrupt those agencies an that is there justification method.  An when we push back against the same socialists and communists here in America, we are labeled terrorists, deplorables, racists, homophobes and etc. Police try to stop riots caused by the left, and all of a sudden  they get orders to not intercede or they get to do their job and get lambasted by the media for stopping said riots that they label " protests " .

 

The violence may be at a different level and that is really the only difference for now. Tho for those here in America who love socialism and communism so much, they should really be defending the actions of the Chinese government as that is exactly where America will end up if we go belly up to their propaganda and cave in.

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If they're not happy and don't like living in HK , they should leave and go back where they came from.... 

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10 minutes ago, third_eye said:

If they're not happy and don't like living in HK , they should leave and go back where they came from.... 

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Back to the UK or Ethiopia?

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Media coverage where I am, makes no attempt to explain what the protestors actually want, the only thing that has been spoken of is the extradition of people to China, and how that proposal has been "suspended", so as clear as mud, really, what would placate them.

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On 7/1/2019 at 1:57 PM, third_eye said:

Stupid...  they just trapped themselves with a bad move... 

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8 hours ago, Habitat said:

Media coverage where I am, makes no attempt to explain what the protestors actually want, the only thing that has been spoken of is the extradition of people to China, and how that proposal has been "suspended", so as clear as mud, really, what would placate them.

Suspended isn't the same as removing a bill completely. 

Also alot of them want the current leader to resign for even agreeing to the bill.

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10 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Suspended isn't the same as removing a bill completely. 

I really don't see a lot of difference. If they wanted to try to legislate it again later,  after "removing" it, what is to stop them ?

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10 minutes ago, Habitat said:

I really don't see a lot of difference. If they wanted to try to legislate it again later,  after "removing" it, what is to stop them ?

A suspended bill can come back much easier then if the bill was completely withdrawn.Less political hoops to jump through.

 

Also look at it in a different way. Imagine for a second that in the U.S a bill was set to go into effect that would make it illegal for anyone to be LGBT. There would be mass protest. 

That bill gets "suspended" after protest. Do you honestly think the protestors would go home with a bill against people's rights only being suspended?

 

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18 hours ago, OverSword said:

Ummm, okay.  I know where you're coming from but really don't see where our media is trying to turn us into communist's.  You're exaggerating.

Regardless this is not even close to the same situation.  The Chinese media are spreading this narrative to justify a future crackdown on the Hong Kong protests that will have the full support and sympathy of the mainland proletariat.

It isn't exaggerating, it is the same thing just a different tune.

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About 190,000 Chinese police officers took part in an exercise in Guangdong province on Tuesday. Photo: Reuters

About 190,000 police officers took part in a drill in southern China on Tuesday as part of the preparations for the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic, state media reported.

The exercise was staged in Guangdong province and involved armoured vehicles and helicopters, state news agency Xinhua reported.

It is unusual for such a drill to be held so far from Beijing as police forces in or near the capital are typically used for anniversary events.

The location and scale of the exercise led to concerns that Beijing was preparing for action in Hong Kong, after opposition to a now suspended extradition bill led to violent protests.

 

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Below is a satellite photo of a staging area preparing equipment to intervene in Hong Kong protests on the 70th anniversary of the founding of Chinas communist regime:

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@GLCsector3295 Do you see how this is not the same.  You're comparing left leaning propaganda in the USA with a propaganda campaign meant to justify a violent suppression of a former sovereign people.  Your posts are in the wrong thread.

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10 minutes ago, OverSword said:

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Below is a satellite photo of a staging area preparing equipment to intervene in Hong Kong protests on the 70th anniversary of the founding of Chinas communist regime:

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@GLCsector3295 Do you see how this is not the same.  You're comparing left leaning propaganda in the USA with a propaganda campaign meant to justify a violent suppression of a former sovereign people.  Your posts are in the wrong thread.

No it is in the right thread, when the communists / socialists here in America, want to start enforcing their points of view, they time and again send out their lap dogs which they label protest groups, right now it is ANTIFA and B.L.M  , the proof is out there, I just don't have time to spoon feed you, the only difference is that they do not yet have control of our military to use at their disposal .  What they do have is now armed IRS agents, the TSA the BLM  The left leaning is no more, it is flat out communism / socialism that has infiltrated and become deep rooted in the Democrat party, and if we are not aware, we will end up like China though for the " left " it shouldn't be a big deal, in fact, the " left " should actually be demonizing and politicizing these protesters.     But the line is because we don't have the US Military staging to suppress citizens then everything is just supposed to be okay ? 

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7 minutes ago, GLCsector3295 said:

the proof is out there, I just don't have time to spoon feed you,

Please feel free to spoon feed it in a thread not about China and Hong Kong.  Trigger Warning.  You won't tell me anything I haven't already heard.

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On 8/13/2019 at 4:30 PM, RabidMongoose said:

China stand to lose a lot if sanctions get place on them for a brutal crackdown.

Therefore I think the only way forward is for them to give the people of Hong Kong what they want. And the longer this goes on the more my gut says they will demand independence. 

China could stop things getting that far by acting now.

I doubt a few tweets from Trump and the typical strongly worded letter to the Chinese ambassador from the UK will stop another atrocity.

The sad truth is China only became more powerful after the Tiananmen Square massacre. 

The failure by the world to do anything meaningful to China means it fears nothing other than opposition within. 

The only threat in the world is its own people as full nuclear war is almost guaranteed with successive lunatics running the show.

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I'm in awe of these protestors.

A human chain 37 miles long.

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54 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

I'm in awe of these protestors.

A human chain 37 miles long.

Looks like a new subreddit to follow

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Violence escalates in Hong Kong. I feel terrible for those people fighting to not be absorbed by a repressive regime, abandoned by the world in exchange for cheap mobile phones.

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And it goes on..... and on.

"Hong Kong has announced that all schools including kindergartens will be closed on Thursday as the territory faces another day of escalating unrest.

"The Education Bureau announced the unprecedented step on Wednesday, citing safety reasons.

"Officials said schools would remain open for children needing supervision.

"The Chinese University of Hong Kong also said it would cancel classes for the rest of term after a violent standoff between police and protesters."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-50400338

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I tried to post an update on the awful treatment the folks in Hong Kong are receiving today by the Chinese Government and some of the Chinese citizens but it won't let me. It may have something to do with the Chinese citizens who are bashing the protesters are using another social media platform that is often associated with p@rnograp$y as Youtube stopped letting them use their channels some time ago. If anyone is interested you can find the article on the NY Post website. I won't post the article link because of the rules here but here is the NY Post main page link where you will find the article. I apologize to the staff here if my previous effort to post this caused any concern. This article has nothing to do with banned content though given the nature of the Post's Click Bait headline it would certain appear that it did.

Read more: https://nypost.com/

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Something interesting happened today.  Chinese Military sent in to pick up debris in Hong Kong.  This was a very clever move by the CCP, and constitutes the smartest thing they have done to date imo.  Sending the Red Army in to clean up the streets can't be said to be an aggressive or confrontational use of the forces.  At a time when the protest has been going on for a very long time, some people are getting protest fatigue.  The troops aren't being used against the protestors, but against the damage the protest has caused, putting forward the Red Army and by extension the CCP as building and repairing, as opposed to wrecking, which is symbolically important.  There is also the challenge that if the protestors go after the Red Army while they clean up, that the protestors will have initiated hostilities against the Red Army.  Yeah, this was a clever move...  I am interested to see what the protest movement does in response, if anything.

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3 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

This was a very clever move by the CCP, and constitutes the smartest thing they have done to date imo.  Sending the Red Army in to clean up the streets can't be said to be an aggressive or confrontational use of the forces. 

These are volunteer efforts, nobody sent or requested them to do anything, they're just cleaning up the street and area around their camp barracks. 

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3 hours ago, third_eye said:

These are volunteer efforts, nobody sent or requested them to do anything, they're just cleaning up the street and area around their camp barracks. 

Pardon my skeptical ORLY, this is the Red Army we are talking about.

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2 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

Pardon my skeptical ORLY, this is the Red Army we are talking about.

The only thing missing here is Darth Vader's theme accompanying this post... 

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UK outraged at 'torture' of ex-Hong Kong consulate employee

“Simon Cheng was a valued member of our team. We were shocked and appalled by the mistreatment he suffered while in Chinese detention, which amounts to torture,” Raab said, according to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

“I summoned the Chinese Ambassador to express our outrage at the brutal and disgraceful treatment of Simon in violation of China’s international obligations. I have made clear we expect the Chinese authorities to investigate and hold those responsible to account.”

Full monty at Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-fco-idUSKBN1XU0V1

At CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/uk-blasts-chinese-torture-of-hong-kong-consulate-worker.html

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It's not torture, it's "enhanced interrogation"

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1 hour ago, third_eye said:

It's not torture, it's "enhanced interrogation"

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Eldorado's article is just another example of the CCP beating up and torturing those who speak dissident about their government.

But you seem to be okay with that. 

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