+Desertrat56 Posted July 9, 2019 #26 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Crowley was rumored to. Was MI5 around before WW2? Crowley died in 1947. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 9, 2019 #27 Share Posted July 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Was MI5 around before WW2? Crowley died in 1947. Honest, don't know. I've read where he was a spy, but it's Crowley. He always seems surrounded by tall tales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 9, 2019 #28 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: Honest, don't know. I've read where he was a spy, but it's Crowley. He always seems surrounded by tall tales. Yeah, there are a lot of stories about L.Ron Hubbard that could not be true so I suspect minions have done what they can to make him "bigger than life" to justify their adoration or recruit more minions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Walt' E. Kurtz Posted July 9, 2019 #29 Share Posted July 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Who, Alister Crowley or Grant Morrison? Both 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted July 9, 2019 #30 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Piney said: He was a drug addled fool is what he was. Uncle Fester is the most accurate portrayal of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 9, 2019 #31 Share Posted July 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Was MI5 around before WW2? Crowley died in 1947. The predecessor of MI5 was the Secret Service Bureau, and that was formed around 1909 ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 9, 2019 #32 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Well, I think this is nice. The house has connotations to some people, regardless of their accuracy. It is great that some people are seeking to preserve it for the future. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted July 9, 2019 #33 Share Posted July 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: The predecessor of MI5 was the Secret Service Bureau, and that was formed around 1909 ? Tel: 9999 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 9, 2019 #34 Share Posted July 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stiff said: Tel: 9999 No, it's 0207 7930 9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted July 9, 2019 #35 Share Posted July 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: No, it's 0207 7930 9000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 10, 2019 #36 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Stiff said: Seriously. It really is ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 10, 2019 #37 Share Posted July 10, 2019 16 hours ago, cathya said: I can think of many investments to make other than fixing up a dead satanists old home. What a waste of money. I would be careful, there are still a number of his followers around they may come visit you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indridcold3223 Posted July 10, 2019 #38 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) Most of you would do well to step beyond the MANY baseless rumours and do a little real research. Did Crowley experiment with drugs? Sure. Lots of people have throughout history. But it should be noted that the few times throughout Crowley's life that he did suffer addiction it was due to his medical doctor putting him on drugs to treat his asthma. In those days cocaine and opioids were the norm for people with asthmatic conditions. There is zero evidence that Crowley was drugging people for British Intelligence. Most of his drug use was controlled experimentation with psychedelics. He meticulously reports on this in his own diaries. Crowley was not a Satanist, and vociferously opposed black magick. The spiritual philosophy he codified, called Thelema, far more closely resembles Taoism than it does Satanism. There are a lot of rumours spread by people that have never read his own words or the works of scholars that have studied him closely. There are tons of trash publications written by conspiracy theorists and religious zealots, or people that lack deductive reasoning and lack the ability to tell when Crowley was exercising his oft bizarre sense of humour. A lot of it is coded or poetic and can't be understood when read straight forward, but is obvious to those versed in Hermeticism, yoga, alchemy, Mythology, etc... If you really want to understand what Crowley was about, read his own words, or books by people that studied him in a more sober regard. I would recommend Perderabo by Dr. Richard Kaczynski, or a number of works by Bob Wilson. Edited July 10, 2019 by Indridcold3223 Mistake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Walt' E. Kurtz Posted July 10, 2019 #39 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) Mr crawly did you talk to the dead Edited July 10, 2019 by Impedancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted July 10, 2019 #40 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Indridcold3223 said: Most of you would do well to step beyond the MANY baseless rumours and do a little real research. Did Crowley experiment with drugs? Sure. Lots of people have throughout history. But it should be noted that the few times throughout Crowley's life that he did suffer addiction it was due to his medical doctor putting him on drugs to treat his asthma. In those days cocaine and opioids were the norm for people with asthmatic conditions. There is zero evidence that Crowley was drugging people for British Intelligence. Most of his drug use was controlled experimentation with psychedelics. He meticulously reports on this in his own diaries. Crowley was not a Satanist, and vociferously opposed black magick. The spiritual philosophy he codified, called Thelema, far more closely resembles Taoism than it does Satanism. There are a lot of rumours spread by people that have never read his own words or the works of scholars that have studied him closely. There are tons of trash publications written by conspiracy theorists and religious zealots, or people that lack deductive reasoning and lack the ability to tell when Crowley was exercising his oft bizarre sense of humour. A lot of it is coded or poetic and can't be understood when read straight forward, but is obvious to those versed in Hermeticism, yoga, alchemy, Mythology, etc... If you really want to understand what Crowley was about, read his own words, or books by people that studied him in a more sober regard. I would recommend Perderabo by Dr. Richard Kaczynski, or a number of works by Bob Wilson. Thanks, and welcome to UM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted July 10, 2019 #41 Share Posted July 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Indridcold3223 said: Most of you would do well to step beyond the MANY baseless rumours and do a little real research. Did Crowley experiment with drugs? Sure. Lots of people have throughout history. But it should be noted that the few times throughout Crowley's life that he did suffer addiction it was due to his medical doctor putting him on drugs to treat his asthma. In those days cocaine and opioids were the norm for people with asthmatic conditions. There is zero evidence that Crowley was drugging people for British Intelligence. Most of his drug use was controlled experimentation with psychedelics. He meticulously reports on this in his own diaries. Crowley was not a Satanist, and vociferously opposed black magick. The spiritual philosophy he codified, called Thelema, far more closely resembles Taoism than it does Satanism. There are a lot of rumours spread by people that have never read his own words or the works of scholars that have studied him closely. There are tons of trash publications written by conspiracy theorists and religious zealots, or people that lack deductive reasoning and lack the ability to tell when Crowley was exercising his oft bizarre sense of humour. A lot of it is coded or poetic and can't be understood when read straight forward, but is obvious to those versed in Hermeticism, yoga, alchemy, Mythology, etc... If you really want to understand what Crowley was about, read his own words, or books by people that studied him in a more sober regard. I would recommend Perderabo by Dr. Richard Kaczynski, or a number of works by Bob Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted July 10, 2019 #42 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 hours ago, RoofGardener said: Seriously. It really is ! It's FedEx too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 11, 2019 #43 Share Posted July 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Stiff said: It's FedEx too! That's... bizzarre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indridcold3223 Posted July 11, 2019 #44 Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 3:24 AM, Manwon Lender said: I would be careful, there are still a number of his followers around they may come visit you Lol. His "followers" are the ones that bought it. But "followers" is not quite the correct term, as Crowley discouraged followers, he wanted every man and woman to "cut their own way through the jungle", he merely pointed out a possible path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 14, 2019 #45 Share Posted July 14, 2019 https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/07/aleister-crowleys-cursed-loch-ness-home-to-reopen-as-a-sex-magick-retreat/ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted July 14, 2019 #46 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted July 14, 2019 #47 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, XenoFish said: https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/07/aleister-crowleys-cursed-loch-ness-home-to-reopen-as-a-sex-magick-retreat/ Written by this guy lol. Reduces OTO's inclusion of eroticism in some rituals as "wierd sex stuff". Everyone's got a point of view, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted July 20, 2019 #48 Share Posted July 20, 2019 For some reason I hear the song Mr Crowley by Ozzie playing in my head when reading this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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