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A woman outside of the lines

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A woman outside the lines
 
When I meet someone who is absolutely sure that they are right, and have the truth, I tend not to argue. I let them be, and go my way. Sometimes I meet people who are ‘really’ sure of themselves in such a way that they have no one to really relate to since they are people who live ‘outside of the lines’ of what is considered rational, or normal in such a way that there can be some connection if worked at.
 
About three years ago, I got a call from a woman who wanted to see me, or more importantly the abbot. It was about this time of the year in 2016. She had a big German-Shepherd with her, so she could not bring it into the Retreat House. It was about 95 degrees out and very humid, but I knew that I had to go and talk to her. So I went out to the porch that is connected to our talking dining room. She had a pile of notebooks with her, and a message for the Abbot as well as the community. She told me that she could read hearts and needed to see if the Abbot was good enough for her to talk to him. I told her that she could not see the abbot that he was very busy. So she talked to the next best thing I guess, the Prior.
 
As she talked, what she was saying made complete sense to her. She was weaving a very intricate web that made it impossible for me to follow. Yes, it was a one-way conversation. So I just sat and listened for about 40 minutes. After she finished she showed me one of her journals. I looked at it. It was filled with drawings, diagrams, and some notes that rambled more or less the way she spoke to me. She told me that I could not keep the journal and took it back. She still wanted to see the abbot, but I told her that was not possible. I asked her to write a letter, but she refused. After she left, I got the feeling she was reading my heart and did not like what she could see…..well that is ok, for there are parts of my heart that I am still working on, and if she could really read hearts I guess what she saw could have caused some disturbance
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I did feel frustrated after she left because it was impossible to talk to her or to even understand what she was about. It is true, that there are people who are sure of themselves and make it impossible for others to debate or argue with them. However, they are within the normal range and can be understood even if perhaps they are bit rigid and perhaps angry in how they come across. This woman was isolated and perhaps on a daily basis experienced people who could not understand 90 percent of what she was saying. It must be lonely. –Br.MD
 
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Did you feel this was delusion alone or perhaps a deeper mental health issue?

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Not a Rockstar said: D id you feel this was delusion alone or perhaps a deeper mental health issue?

I think it was deeper than being delusional. 

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LightAngel
On 11.7.2019 at 12:41 PM, markdohle said:
 
 
there are parts of my heart that I am still working on, and if she could really read hearts I guess what she saw could have caused some disturbance
 

 

Hey markdohle

Do you want to talk about communication here? - communication can be tricky!

Some people understand each other even though they don't speak the same language. And others speak the same language, but they never understand each other.

There's a lot to discuss here, but I need to cook now....bbl. :yes:

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On ‎11‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 11:41 AM, markdohle said:
 
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A woman outside the lines
 
When I meet someone who is absolutely sure that they are right, and have the truth, I tend not to argue. I let them be, and go my way. Sometimes I meet people who are ‘really’ sure of themselves in such a way that they have no one to really relate to since they are people who live ‘outside of the lines’ of what is considered rational, or normal in such a way that there can be some connection if worked at.
 
About three years ago, I got a call from a woman who wanted to see me, or more importantly the abbot. It was about this time of the year in 2016. She had a big German-Shepherd with her, so she could not bring it into the Retreat House. It was about 95 degrees out and very humid, but I knew that I had to go and talk to her. So I went out to the porch that is connected to our talking dining room. She had a pile of notebooks with her, and a message for the Abbot as well as the community. She told me that she could read hearts and needed to see if the Abbot was good enough for her to talk to him. I told her that she could not see the abbot that he was very busy. So she talked to the next best thing I guess, the Prior.
 
As she talked, what she was saying made complete sense to her. She was weaving a very intricate web that made it impossible for me to follow. Yes, it was a one-way conversation. So I just sat and listened for about 40 minutes. After she finished she showed me one of her journals. I looked at it. It was filled with drawings, diagrams, and some notes that rambled more or less the way she spoke to me. She told me that I could not keep the journal and took it back. She still wanted to see the abbot, but I told her that was not possible. I asked her to write a letter, but she refused. After she left, I got the feeling she was reading my heart and did not like what she could see…..well that is ok, for there are parts of my heart that I am still working on, and if she could really read hearts I guess what she saw could have caused some disturbance
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I did feel frustrated after she left because it was impossible to talk to her or to even understand what she was about. It is true, that there are people who are sure of themselves and make it impossible for others to debate or argue with them. However, they are within the normal range and can be understood even if perhaps they are bit rigid and perhaps angry in how they come across. This woman was isolated and perhaps on a daily basis experienced people who could not understand 90 percent of what she was saying. It must be lonely. –Br.MD
 

I think you allow yourself to get caught up a little too much with other people.

You cannot help everyone, you cannot save everyone, they will do what they really want to do, and all you can do is let them.

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RabidMangose said:: 

I think you allow yourself to get caught up a little too much with other people.

You cannot help everyone, you cannot save everyone, they will do what they really want to do, and all you can do is let them.

 

I see your point, my friend.  I am Guest Master here, see a lot of people.  I am slowly learning, but the answer is not to stop helping, but continuing to create better boundaries........as you so well put.

 

Peace

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LightAngel said:  Do you want to talk about communication here? - communication can be tricky!

Thanks, but I don't have the time.  One problem with those who have some sort of mental issue that is chronic is that it goes both ways, lack of understanding on both sides., Most people meet a few people that don't get them, but some find that with everyone they encounter, a sad place to be.

 

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@markdohle:

Sometimes it takes me days before I have time to reply to post in here, but nobody expect that we will reply to posts right away - we all have to take care of our lives.

I mentioned communication for a reason, but I will let you figure it out for yourself! :)

 

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