+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 #1 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Quote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admonished Democrats for personally attacking one another, warning in a closed-door meeting Wednesday that the party’s fracturing was jeopardizing its majority. Without naming names, her target was clear: the four liberal freshmen known as “the Squad" Read the rest HERE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 11, 2019 #2 Share Posted July 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, OverSword said: Read the rest HERE Pelosi is one that should retire. She is getting too old and feeble and set in her ways. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 11, 2019 #3 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I may not be in favor of many of the positions "The Squad" takes but I am glad they are there. Both parties need new young representatives who represent their districts and are not yet part of the machine. Pelosi, McConnell and the other "old boy" leaders are a blood clot in the body politic that needs to be shaken loose. If enough new people are elected, the cooler moderate heads will prevail, and maybe compromise and progress will be made. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 Author #4 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, Desertrat56 said: Pelosi is one that should retire. She is getting too old and feeble and set in her ways. The truth is that the democrats have done damage to their party by allowing far left socialists (who should be in the socialist party) into the democratic party, all in the name of getting more votes. Long term this will be the ultimate weakening of their party as they now have attracted a group of young voters that isn't going to agree with a moderate democratic stance. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 11, 2019 #5 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: The truth is that the democrats have done damage to their party by allowing far left socialists (who should be in the socialist party) into the democratic party, all in the name of getting more votes. Long term this will be the ultimate weakening of their party as they now have attracted a group of young voters that isn't going to agree with a moderate democratic stance. In some cases it is too late for a moderate approach and I find it interesting that you use the word "socialist" as a detraction. We have social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, federal regulation... So what is it you don't like about the socialism that the young democrats are proposing? They may be idealistic but they will learn and they will make necessary changes. We can no longer sustain the "good ol' boy" attitude and the status quo. It's their time, and I hope we don't have to wait for people like Pelosi and other ancient sentators and congress people to die to make the changes we need. Right now all I see Pelosi doing is milking the system for every penny she can get, just like many before her. We need term limits. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: So what is it you don't like about the socialism Socialism on a large scale causes businesses to flee and kills innovation. Sound cliché? Don't believe it? How about all those great operating systems in Europe? You like those? How about the huge online sellers like Amazon? Their great search engines? international food chains? Coffee? They got nothing. They have airbus which only exists because governments fund it. You like that kind of socialism, then go where it already exists I say. I'm all for free market and have no doubt it's superior to big government. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 11, 2019 #7 Share Posted July 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, OverSword said: Socialism on a large scale causes businesses to flee and kills innovation. Sound cliché? Don't believe it? How about all those great operating systems in Europe? You like those? How about the huge online sellers like Amazon? Their great search engines? international food chains? Coffee? They got nothing. They have airbus which only exists because governments fund it. You like that kind of socialism, then go where it already exists I say. I'm all for free market and have no doubt it's superior to big government. I don't think we are anywhere near that and probably won't be until we have one world government. And then when that happens the aliens will finally land and take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 11, 2019 #8 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) again AOC only sees color, thus she is a racist herself. i have 0 doubt if pelosi was not white AOC would not dare to open her mouth no matter what pelosi would do, Edited July 11, 2019 by aztek 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 11, 2019 #9 Share Posted July 11, 2019 53 minutes ago, OverSword said: The truth is that the democrats have done damage to their party by allowing far left socialists (who should be in the socialist party) into the democratic party, all in the name of getting more votes. Long term this will be the ultimate weakening of their party as they now have attracted a group of young voters that isn't going to agree with a moderate democratic stance. Can the same be said about Republicans allowing far right extremeists into their party? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 11, 2019 #10 Share Posted July 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, OverSword said: The truth is that the democrats have done damage to their party by allowing far left socialists (who should be in the socialist party) into the democratic party, all in the name of getting more votes. Long term this will be the ultimate weakening of their party as they now have attracted a group of young voters that isn't going to agree with a moderate democratic stance. Maybe this is a good thing for the American people. Maybe both bloated parties should shatter and be allowed to fade. Get the money and corruption out of politics. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 Author #11 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Can the same be said about Republicans allowing far right extremeists into their party? Yes. but the far right in the republicans are not nearly as extreme as the far left in the dems. Edited July 11, 2019 by OverSword 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 11, 2019 #12 Share Posted July 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, aztek said: again AOC only sees color, thus she is a racist herself. i have 0 doubt if pelosi was not white AOC would not dare to open her mouth no matter what pelosi would do, Do you see only color? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 Author #13 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Tatetopa said: Maybe this is a good thing for the American people. Maybe both bloated parties should shatter and be allowed to fade. Get the money and corruption out of politics. That is my theory. The republicans absorbing the tea party and the democrats absorbing the socialists ultimately will have the effect of dissatisfaction for large parts of the voter base. I see moderate and liberal republican's more like libertarian's and more extreme left democrats more like socialists. I think both Libertarian and green parties are going to branch away from the repub and dem parties and we will have at least four viable choices. But of the two I would say the democrats have damaged themselves more moving left than the republicans have. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 Author #14 Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Do you see only color? Be real. She basically called Nancy Pelosi a bigot and a misogynist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 11, 2019 #15 Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: Be real. She basically called Nancy Pelosi a bigot and a misogynist. I agree with her, Pelosi is a bigot and a misogynist. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 11, 2019 #16 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) never imagined i would defend pelosi, but here we go, i do in this case, she is correct to call out stupid improper behavior, AOc is absolutely wrong to make it about race, but then what else do you expect a racist to say, Edited July 11, 2019 by aztek 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 11, 2019 #17 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) @Azteck You mean just like a misogynist telling a woman she made up a reason something happened and it had nothing to do with being female? Edited July 11, 2019 by Desertrat56 reference to who I was talking to 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 11, 2019 #18 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, aztek said: never imagined i would defend pelosi, but here we go, i do in this case, she is correct to call out stupid improper behavior, AOc is absolutely wrong to make it about race, but then what else do you expect a racist to say, You mean just like a misogynist telling a woman she made up a reason something happened and it had nothing to do with being female? sometimes a spade is a spade. Edited July 11, 2019 by Desertrat56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted July 11, 2019 #19 Share Posted July 11, 2019 You folks remember me saying on this site over a year ago how this very thing was gonna go down? I remember the same talking heads always glowingly approving of Pelosi's screams of "RACISM" when anyone so much as disagreed with Barry! My,my,my how the chickens are coming home to roost...May "Dear party" tear themselves to pieces 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 Author #20 Share Posted July 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, aztek said: never imagined i would defend pelosi, but here we go, i do in this case 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 11, 2019 #21 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: @Azteck You mean just like a misogynist telling a woman she made up a reason something happened and it had nothing to do with being female? nope, but i'm glad i see where your attention is, the whole issue had nothing to do with colors, but behavior of those particular members. as far as i know pelosi is a female too, to sexism card does not apply here. nice try thou Edited July 11, 2019 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 11, 2019 #22 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, OverSword said: They got nothing. They have airbus which only exists because governments fund it. Thats big nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 11, 2019 #23 Share Posted July 11, 2019 You'll notice that - in the article - when asked about the behavior of the Democratic Party, she IMMEDIATELY plays the race card ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 11, 2019 Author #24 Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, toast said: Thats big nonsense. Yes, it's a big generalization. Your products do not have the worldwide impact that ours do though. Deny it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 11, 2019 #25 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: Yes, it's a big generalization. Your products do not have the worldwide impact that ours do though. Deny it. I deny it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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