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Golden Duck
6 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

During the 20th century we witnessed politics swing from one extreme to the other.

The other is now coming to an end as the US President seeks to with-store the balance. People have been waiting 30 years for the liberal-lefty, PC pro-immigration, pro-everything except the normal average nuclear family, to come to an end. That end is now in sight as the USA has a leader who doesnt care what names people call him, or how much they try to character assassinate him, or how much they cry about it.

Go Trump! America First!

We can't be sure.  He didn't like the UK Ambassador calling the administration inept. But, Trump tells us that The Squad are from countries with inept governments. He includes the USA.

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Desertrat56
10 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

Not to "Africa" as the paper quoted it. So take your baited question elsewhere.

 

10 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

Not to "Africa" as the paper quoted it. So take your baited question elsewhere.

He literally said "go back and fix the countries you came from", which is what 3 of them are literally trying to do.   The other has made the U.S. her home and is also trying to fix it.  :lol:

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preacherman76

Looks to many, including myself, think that they want to see this country burn. Couldn’t even denounce the terrorist who just attacked the ICE building. That’s sick

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Desertrat56
8 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Looks to many, including myself, think that they want to see this country burn. Couldn’t even denounce the terrorist who just attacked the ICE building. That’s sick

Who "couldn't even denounce the terrorist who just attacked the ICE building"?

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Golden Duck
27 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

Not to "Africa" as the paper quoted it. So take your baited question elsewhere.

Why? You've already dodged it.

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Tatetopa
3 hours ago, hacktorp said:

Seems kind of a reach to try to pin Vietnam on Trump, but such inanity does appear to be in style these days.

Well you know, he said he is smarter than the generals.  If he had not had bone spurs he could have gone over there and won that war.  So in a way it is partly his fault for not serving.

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Michelle
3 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

Who "couldn't even denounce the terrorist who just attacked the ICE building"?

You're kidding right? If you aren't, that is scary in this day and age, people only getting news from sources that confirm what they believe.

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hacktorp
6 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Well you know, he said he is smarter than the generals.  If he had not had bone spurs he could have gone over there and won that war.  So in a way it is partly his fault for not serving.

Good point.

Although in Trump's world, "winning" usually means a negotiated, mutually acceptable outcome.  Like we see happening in places like NK and Iran.

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Desertrat56
5 minutes ago, Michelle said:

You're kidding right? If you aren't, that is scary in this day and age, people only getting news from sources that confirm what they believe.

I want to know who YOU are referring to, how do I know where you get your news?  And besides, whey do you feel like the country should burn?

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Michelle
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6 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

I want to know who YOU are referring to, how do I know where you get your news?  And besides, whey do you feel like the country should burn?

I don't have any idea where you got that I feel like any country should burn? :huh:

I read about 15 different news stations every couple of days with varying left and right leaning opinions. You should try it..

 

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South Alabam
Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

 

He literally said "go back and fix the countries you came from", which is what 3 of them are literally trying to do.   The other has made the U.S. her home and is also trying to fix it.  :lol:

Africa is not a country. And yes, growing up I heard "ship all the ******* back to Africa. So, instead of reporting as "countries" they replaced it with "Africa" to be as inflammatory as they could be, falsely reporting what he did not say in those exact  words. That is all I am arguing.

Even the L.A.Times purposely left out "and then come back and show us how it's done."

 

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Desertrat56
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29 minutes ago, Michelle said:

I don't have any idea where you got that I feel like any country should burn? :huh:

I read about 15 different news stations every couple of days with varying left and right leaning opinions. You should try it..

 

That was for @preacherman76.  My computer or the internet is acting up.   Several times I have clicked something and some other thing came up.  He is the one I thought I posted to before.  Let me go back and see what I did.  Apologies for the misunderstanding.  Just call me "clicky".

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Desertrat56
38 minutes ago, Michelle said:

You're kidding right? If you aren't, that is scary in this day and age, people only getting news from sources that confirm what they believe.

OK. I rebooted the modem and my computer and it isn't so slow anymore. 

I see what happened.  You asked from a quote I made from Preacherman76's post (# 229).  So why did you think I was asking you the question?

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Michelle
1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said:

So why did you think I was asking you the question?

Cuz you quoted me...

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Desertrat56
Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Michelle said:

Cuz you quoted me...

After you quoted my question to preacherman76.  I thought that was who responded because I don't always read everything and did not expect someone else to answer.

Why did you take that personal anyway, since it wasn't aimed at you?

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Michelle
7 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

After you quoted my question to preacherman76.  I thought that was who responded because I don't always read everything and did not expect someone else to answer.

Why did you take that personal anyway, since it wasn't aimed at you?

First...when you quote someone you are responding to them.

Second...it's usually a good idea to be informed before a rebuttal.

Third...I simply answered the question you asked of me.

Time to let it go.

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Gwynbleidd
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IDK I disagree with Chuck regarding her concentration camp comments. He is also making a huge assumption that folks like Nadler dont agree with her. Perhaps its not that they are afraid to call out people they agree with politically as Chuck said,but that they actually agree with her words on the topic.

That's fair enough @Farmer77 I respect that.  Do you feel that there could be a larger portion that agree with AOC but choose to stay silent instead for fear of ridicule or any sort of criticism that may come their way?  I would only imagine this would be primarily due to the negative press she receives not only from the conservatives but some of the democrats too?  

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WIlling to speak about her comments or that sees her comments as ridiculous? Theres a pretty large difference.

The only reason I use the word ridiculous here is because that is exactly how she is portrayed according to the news I see on AOC.   Although that said, the sites I visit are definitely more conservative in nature, therefore, I'd expect that response to her.  It's exactly the same as the leftist sites on Trump.  However, do try to remember I'm seeing this as an outsider, ie. outside the USA and I am by no means emotionally involved like you guys could be as if affects you more directly.  I'm not living through this the same as you guys are within the USA with this type of news all over your tv screens etc (my apologies as I have assumed you're in the USA?). 

Those of us outside the USA can only go by what we find on the web and believe me, it's nothing but an assortment of positive/negative spiels by whichever fundamental beliefs the so-called journalists possess, delivering the NEWS to us in the form of opinion pieces.  No news is objective today.  I realise that's a generalisation however, it rings true sadly.   If you have time, I would love to see some links where an AOC supporter agrees with and sees common sense in what AOC is saying? 

I mean no offense to you or anyone else who appreciates AOC, however, I think we can respectfully agree to disagree. :)  Thank you for your input @Farmer77

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South Alabam

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/348552-democrats-face-a-conundrum-of-hypocrisy-when-it-comes-to-race

Racial scandals committed by individuals associated with the Republican Party often spark moral outrage and trigger wall-to-wall media coverage. In contrast, racial scandals perpetrated by those affiliated with the Democratic Party, no matter how vitriolic, are ignored. 

The hypocrisy manifests itself more prominently at the highest echelon of the Democratic Party. Game Change, a book about the 2008 U.S. presidential election, brought to light that former President Bill Clinton confided to the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, "A few years ago, this guy (Obama) would be getting us coffee."

When his wife lost the South Carolina primary to Obama by a wide margin (55.4 percent to 26.5 percent), the former president called Congressman Jim Clyburn at 2:00 a.m. with utter disdain. In his memoir “Blessed Experiences: Genuinely Southern, Proudly Black,” Clyburn quoted Clinton as saying, “If you b******* want a fight, you damn well will get one.” The implication was that the “b*******” were, of course, blacks.

Michelle Alexander heralded the murmur aloud on the national stage in her 2010 book “The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness.” She argued that Clinton’s 1994 crime bill, which then-First Lady Hillary Clinton supported, was a disaster for the African-American community. It codified the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity for crack cocaine (used mostly by blacks) vs. powder cocaine (used mostly by whites), which institutionalized racial bias in the criminal justice system.

And we dodged this and gave you Trump instead, now which one is really less evil?

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Katniss

So thanks to Trump the democratic political division is gone now and they're united and empowered to go after Trump again and not each other. It would have been great if he left them alone, it could have been a start for democrats to lose some house seats in 2020. I think Trump shot himself in his own foot getting involved with the democrats fighting.

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Hammerclaw
49 minutes ago, Katniss said:

So thanks to Trump the democratic political division is gone now and they're united and empowered to go after Trump again and not each other. It would have been great if he left them alone, it could have been a start for democrats to lose some house seats in 2020. I think Trump shot himself in his own foot getting involved with the democrats fighting.

Not really--it was quite deliberate as he was playing to his base.

 

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Katniss
48 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Not really--it was quite deliberate as he was playing to his base.

Yes, but he would gain more political benefit if he didn't unite his political oppositions. He should let them divide and fall, not let them unite and stand together against him.

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DarkHunter
13 minutes ago, Katniss said:

Yes, but he would gain more political benefit if he didn't unite his political oppositions. He should let them divide and fall, not let them unite and stand together against him.

Its actually better for Trump if the Democrats are united then divided.  It seems counter productive but a lot of stuff the extreme left of the Democratic party promotes is unpopular with the general US public but they are the ones best at using social media and staying in the spotlight.  By keeping the Democrats united it becomes easier to paint the entire democratic party as backing what the extreme left does even though most of them dont.  If Trump let's the Democratic party divide then he runs the risk of the Democrats essentially being able to exorcise what is really a small and radical group and let most of the Democrats still br able to hold onto enough of the center to be a threat.

Essentially the more united the Democrats are the more far left they appear due to a small radical group that makes them harder to win national elections.

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Katniss
14 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Its actually better for Trump if the Democrats are united then divided.  It seems counter productive but a lot of stuff the extreme left of the Democratic party promotes is unpopular with the general US public but they are the ones best at using social media and staying in the spotlight.  By keeping the Democrats united it becomes easier to paint the entire democratic party as backing what the extreme left does even though most of them dont.  If Trump let's the Democratic party divide then he runs the risk of the Democrats essentially being able to exorcise what is really a small and radical group and let most of the Democrats still br able to hold onto enough of the center to be a threat.

Essentially the more united the Democrats are the more far left they appear due to a small radical group that makes them harder to win national elections.

If this is all for the sake of Trump getting another term in office, then it could increase his chances on that point. But I don't think he would have lost anyway because he is a incumbent president and the economy is doing good under his administration, and most of the time that is all it takes because most of us vote with our billfolds. But if he is doing this to paint the democrat party as all socialist, so that they will not gain any more seats or even lose some seats in congress, it's big mistake IMO. Because now, they will stop fighting each other and get back to selling health care that a lot people want among other things and maintain votes.

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Hammerclaw
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2 hours ago, Katniss said:

Yes, but he would gain more political benefit if he didn't unite his political oppositions. He should let them divide and fall, not let them unite and stand together against him.

That's exactly what he wants. Paint them all with the radical progressive brush, make them all own every word the gang-of-four say, every deed they do. A failed impeachment attempt would be more grist for his MAGA mill and would unite his base. He's playing them like puppets as they respond, predictively, as if on cue. He's thwarted Pelosi's attempt to surgically excise them from body politic of the Democrat Party.

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