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Is God Real

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Alchopwn
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17 minutes ago, third_eye said:

We'll keep your seat warm for you.... 

So long as it isn't an electric chair...

Also, I think the ban is in force until Aug 4th 3019.  Did they over-react a bit on the issue of abortion?  Yes, I think so.  For those who can be bothered, I have included the post that got me banned.  Apparently this was inappropriate, offensive or blasphemous...

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No mother willingly chooses to abort a baby. This is true of even the most callous and vile of women. When a woman discovers she is pregnant and is not in a position to raise the child, or for one of MANY other reasons, such as incest, or rape etc may not wish to carry a child to term, it is an unequivocal fac that she is the person who will be most impacted by the responsibility of raising the child, and is thus the best person to make the decision regarding her own body. No decision to abort an infant is ever taken lightly by a woman.

Much more importantly, what happens when we make this already traumatic and difficult decision legally problematic? History has shown that when abortion was illegal, operations were conducted in secret and both mother and child were regularly killed by the treating physician due to lack of proper facilities. I for one think that abortion should UNEQUIVOCALLY be treated as a matter of basic healthcare as it must be such in order to protect the life of the mother.

Given that St Brigid performed abortions, I think the matter of the Church’s position on the matter is dubious. Judge not lest ye be judged (Matthew 7).

Personally I don't see how you can seriously discuss this matter like an adult without actually raising such points.

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Jodie.Lynne

Personally, I don't see the point in going to a website just to cause a ruckus. It's not as if the people that are members there are going to sit up suddenly and say "My God! This totally random person, who has views diametrically opposed to mine, is RIGHT! I'm going to have to re-think my entire life!"

Why anyone would take the time to register with a website just to be contrary, is beyond me.  But that may be because some of the sites I frequent have been the victims of such trolling actions.

Or is there some psychological reasoning behind poking a beehive and laughing at the resulting effects?

On some of the LGBT+ sites I am on, we frequently get "hate posts" from people who log in just to tell us that god hates us and quoting bible verses.

 

Suppose you and a friend are having a quiet discussion in a café, about something that you are both passionate about, and some random passerby stops at your table, just to tell you you're wrong, he is right, goes on a rant, and then walks away. Or perhaps more accurately, you are sitting on your front porch, and someone makes the effort to walk up to you, rants, and then leaves.

 

So what is the point of doing it?

 

 

 

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Habitat
40 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

Suppose you and a friend are having a quiet discussion in a café, about something that you are both passionate about, and some random passerby stops at your table, just to tell you you're wrong, he is right, goes on a rant, and then walks away. Or perhaps more accurately, you are sitting on your front porch, and someone makes the effort to walk up to you, rants, and then leaves.

What are you doing to attract such attention ? 

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Alchopwn
On 8/6/2019 at 8:32 PM, Jodie.Lynne said:

Why anyone would take the time to register with a website just to be contrary, is beyond me. 

I would say that such an act is intrinsically a very positive action, as it stops a forum from becoming am echo chamber/sheltered workshop with a single "party line" opinion.  That sort of "intellectual ghetto" is the worst outcome one can hope for as it merely promotes members to develop increasingly extreme and anti-social opinions.  Frankly in such net environments, a troll can be a breath of fresh air.

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3 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

I would say that such an act is intrinsically a very positive action, as it stops a forum from becoming am echo chamber/sheltered workshop with a single "party line" opinion.  That sort of "intellectual ghetto" is the worst outcome one can hope for as it merely promotes members to develop increasingly extreme and anti-social opinions.  Frankly in such net environments, a troll can be a breath of fresh air.

I've seen places like that. Occult forums tend to be a cesspool for such things. Most of my old haunts are gone. The few that remain are just a mess of confirmation bias. UM is different in that regard, which is why I like it here. 

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Jodie.Lynne
3 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

I would say that such an act is intrinsically a very positive action, as it stops a forum from becoming am echo chamber/sheltered workshop with a single "party line" opinion.

But many sites want just that: unconditional confirmation that their opinion/beliefs are the right ones, and that everyone who thinks differently is wrong. 

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Essan
On 8/6/2019 at 11:32 AM, Jodie.Lynne said:

Personally, I don't see the point in going to a website just to cause a ruckus. It's not as if the people that are members there are going to sit up suddenly and say "My God! This totally random person, who has views diametrically opposed to mine, is RIGHT! I'm going to have to re-think my entire life!"

Why anyone would take the time to register with a website just to be contrary, is beyond me. 

In the past I was on a chemtrail forum ..... and managed to avoid being banned for quite some kind even though I was only on there to debunk their crazy theories and they wouldn't listen to anyone who didn't subscribe 100% to their madness.

Suppose you and a friend are having a quiet discussion in a café, about something that you are both passionate about, and some random passerby stops at your table, just to tell you you're wrong, he is right, goes on a rant, and then walks away. Or perhaps more accurately, you are sitting on your front porch, and someone makes the effort to walk up to you, rants, and then leaves.

So what is the point of doing it?



If you were discussing how the CIA control hurricanes using HAARP and chemtrails then I might well interject.   I don't like stupid people and when someone is so naively wrong about something, some polite correction may be welcome.

I don't rant though.  That's a different matter.   Though in my experience it's rarely those who have science, knowledge, evidence or logic on their side who rant, quite the opposite.

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freetoroam

@God Lover

I see you have answered your own questions.

Hope you do not mind if a take the libery of answering your 'personal' questions?

On 7/16/2019 at 7:10 PM, God Lover said:

If god was real why could he get everyone sin free?

Everyone is not sin free, perfect example of there is no god.

On 7/16/2019 at 7:10 PM, God Lover said:

If god was real why can’t I hear him when I pray to him?

Because the only one listening is you.

On 7/16/2019 at 7:10 PM, God Lover said:

If god was real why can’t it help me?

Because in life you do your best to help yourself. If you have friends and family to help.you too, all the better. 

On 7/16/2019 at 7:10 PM, God Lover said:

if god was real why can’t I feel he’s presence?

Because there is no presence of a god, You can on the other hand create one in your mind.

Now is there anything you would like to ask us (without answering them first? )

 

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Jodie.Lynne
7 hours ago, freetoroam said:

Now is there anything you would like to ask us (without answering them first? )

Since he has all the answers (God), there is no need for him to ask any question that he doesn't already know the answer to. 

Logic and belief are two incompatible ideas, no matter how hard the faithful try to bend logic to fit their beliefs.

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Habitat

Gotta say, the "team" remind me of the old catholic catechism, just a litany of dogmatic assertions, nowhere to be seen, any hint of the real situation, "we just don't know" !

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Jodie.Lynne
17 minutes ago, Habitat said:

Gotta say, the "team" remind me of the old catholic catechism, just a litany of dogmatic assertions, nowhere to be seen, any hint of the real situation, "we just don't know" !

Same crappe as always. Don't you ever get tired of spewing this BS?

I'm seriously beginning to think that you are mentally deficient. 

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Habitat
4 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

Same crappe as always. Don't you ever get tired of spewing this BS?

I'm seriously beginning to think that you are mentally deficient. 

It's just you don't like the message, and attack the messenger. What I said was correct, the team have knocked up declaring that this, that, and the other, does not exist. They would do better to preface such remarks with as "To my way of thinking", or "My inclination is to believe that". Total arrogance otherwise.

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Jodie.Lynne
39 minutes ago, Habitat said:

It's just you don't like the message, and attack the messenger.

The only message you deliver is that there is a "team". Sad and pathetic boy.

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Habitat
2 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

The only message you deliver is that there is a "team". Sad and pathetic boy.

More diversion from what I am actually saying, which you very much do not want to hear. There certainly is a group of people here with the same blind spot, too, and only reinforce it by agreeing with one another. No wonder they resent the idea of the "team".

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Jodie.Lynne
2 minutes ago, Habitat said:

More diversion from what I am actually saying, which you very much do not want to hear. There certainly is a group of people here with the same blind spot, too, and only reinforce it by agreeing with one another. No wonder they resent the idea of the "team".

Whatever puddin, putting you back on ignore until someone informs me that you said something intelligent.

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Habitat
Just now, Jodie.Lynne said:

Whatever puddin, putting you back on ignore until someone informs me that you said something intelligent.

Only confirms what I say, just put your hands over your ears, and you won't have to listen to the nasty man. 

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