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Plato´s Atlantis was in a River Delta


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3 minutes ago, khazarkhum said:

What is it they expect they will physically find if they just look in the right place, though?

I can't wrap it around my skull. Even Plato himself said it was only a allegory. :huh:

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3 minutes ago, Piney said:

In some cases?  Trying to prove Redskin whistleheads like us are too stoopid to pile dirt into the shape of cute animals. :yes:

North Africans, Polynesians, Russians, Native Americans of all cultures needed some help figuring out how to pile rocks. I mean, you're not really saying that these people had similar ideas while working with similar material, are you? Why, that might imply intelligence!

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12 minutes ago, khazarkhum said:

What is it they expect they will physically find if they just look in the right place, though?

Some sort of stone reliefs, artifacts, skeletons etc. that reassure them in their ideas, I suppose.  

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1 hour ago, Piney said:

Nope, different kind of crazy. 

Reminds me of the old joke about who would win in a fight between a Mormon and a JW?

Who cares?

—Jaylemurph 

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21 minutes ago, khazarkhum said:

What is it they expect they will physically find if they just look in the right place, though?

Proof they were right. Proof they’re just as smart as teachers and PhDs with one ten-millionth of the effort. 

If you’re Spiros, proof Jesus is sending you special coded messages.  

If you’re Petty, that you really are reincarnated Jesus, Plato et al. 

—Jaylemurph 

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32 minutes ago, Orphalesion said:

Misguided Romanticism, I guess. They hear the tale of a Past Golden Age full of wisdom and marvels and of course that picture is very attractive and in comparison to periods in real history that could be considered "golden ages" or the very golden age we currently live in, a fictitious Golden Age like Atlantis has the advantage that a person can project all their hopes and wishes into it. 
Scared of Death? Atlantis could communicate with the Afterlife! Wanting to meet Aliens? Atlantis had regular visitors from the Pleiades! Disappointed there aren't any unicorns? Atlantis was full of them! Etc.

It is a bit weird that people need to look back at a golden age, as the age we live in now is by pretty much any measure the golden age compared to any other time in history. 

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27 minutes ago, Polar said:

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Another example of your incompetence as the picture on the right is upside-down, North is at the bottom. 

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5 hours ago, khazarkhum said:

I've never understood why people are obsessed with Atlantis. What do they think they'll find? What exactly are they trying to prove?

You don't understand because you were never infected by the Atlantis virus, which causes a fever that is impossible to cure, and it results in permanent derangement of the mind. It's a million times worse than the addiction caused by heroin. And as Chicago sings, it's a hard habit to break...actually impossible to break, as we take it to our grave, as others before. No pills or PhD logic can cure us, neither can silly parrots repeating the same old allegory word. It's futile as nothing can cure us and so we strive forward in shame and on a road full of insults and ridicule, but still hoping that a cure will be found, or Atlantis, whichever comes first.

I cannot speak for the others, but it seems that the virus, although the same identical one when we catch it, it seems to mutate quickly once it effects our mind, the seat of infection, and we experience it differently. Which would explain all the different opinions as to where, how, and when Atlantis can be found.

Any personal insults against us is really an attack on people with a mental malady. Would you ridicule a down syndrome patient? Would you ridicule persons suffering with high fever delirium, and in that state of mind are mumbling all kinds of nonsense?  Why throw at us all those objects trying to hurt us because you don't like our "music"?

Now, in my own delirium state of mind I picture just what I'm trying to prove. And the best way I can convey that across to those fortunate enough not to have been effected by this dreadful mental disease is the following. It's all allegory!

 

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4 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

Another example of your incompetence as the picture on the right is upside-down, North is at the bottom. 

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A free floating island can spin around just as easily as floating northwards, as it all depends on wind direction. If the island was caught by a spinning hurricane it would explain the 180 degrees shift of its cardinal direction. Whomever drew that map must have been someone who was standing on their head. Or it's a point of view from someone standing on Greenland and looking down on Atlantis.

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55 minutes ago, Pettytalk said:

A free floating island can spin around just as easily as floating northwards, as it all depends on wind direction. If the island was caught by a spinning hurricane it would explain the 180 degrees shift of its cardinal direction. Whomever drew that map must have been someone who was standing on their head. Or it's a point of view from someone standing on Greenland and looking down on Atlantis.

Seriously, PolarTalk. CHECK WHO YOU’RE LOGGED IN AS before posting. You’re ruining the performance.

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20 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Seriously, PolarTalk. CHECK WHO YOU’RE LOGGED IN AS before posting. You’re ruining the performance.

There can only be one

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even with oneself, I wanna see the Quickening between them though.:lol:

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18 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

Another example of your incompetence as the picture on the right is upside-down, North is at the bottom. 

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44 minutes ago, Polar said:

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It doesn't help the fact that you placed a photo of Greenland in Post #208 with the writing UPSIDE-DOWN, apparently to match the writing on Athanasius' map. STILL WRONG. Nobody orients a map upside-down nor depicts mountains upside-down. 

Then there's the fact there there has NEVER been a landmass of significant size to be interpreted as Atlantis anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic. 

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47 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Then there's the fact there there has NEVER been a landmass of significant size to be interpreted as Atlantis anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic. 

cormac

PICKY, Picky, picky, picky, picky.....

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2 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

It doesn't help the fact that you placed a photo of Greenland in Post #208 with the writing UPSIDE-DOWN, apparently to match the writing on Athanasius' map. STILL WRONG. Nobody orients a map upside-down nor depicts mountains upside-down. 

Then there's the fact there there has NEVER been a landmass of significant size to be interpreted as Atlantis anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic. 

cormac

Those images were trying to prove that what Kircher depicted in the center of the island wasn't a mountain, but actually, the plain mentioned in Critias, near the circular ditch where supposedly rivers discharged its waters.

I think Kircher must have had access to some sort of information about the location of the island of Atlantis. That would be the most logical answer.

Why bring something up which has nothing to do with the subject of the thread? 90 % of it is already filled with unrelated material or worse. 

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39 minutes ago, Polar said:

Those images were trying to prove that what Kircher depicted in the center of the island wasn't a mountain, but actually, the plain mentioned in Critias, near the circular ditch where supposedly rivers discharged its waters.

I think Kircher must have had access to some sort of information about the location of the island of Atlantis. That would be the most logical answer.

Why bring something up which has nothing to do with the subject of the thread? 90 % of it is already filled with unrelated material or worse. 

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Because — and let’s be clear about this — you have to physical manipulate the image two different ways (right to left and up and down) to force it to fit your “theory.”

Your theory is so bad you not only are forced to manipulate the data, but then you’re dumb enough to tell people that. As usual, you undermine yourself. 

—Jaylemurph 

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39 minutes ago, Polar said:

Those images were trying to prove that what Kircher depicted in the center of the island wasn't a mountain, but actually, the plain mentioned in Critias, near the circular ditch where supposedly rivers discharged its waters.

I think Kircher must have had access to some sort of information about the location of the island of Atlantis. That would be the most logical answer.

Why bring something up which has nothing to do with the subject of the thread? 90 % of it is already filled with unrelated material or worse. 

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Except that it WAS a mountain as evidenced by the fact that writing on a map is predominantly held in the same direction a map should be read. 

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2 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

It doesn't help the fact that you placed a photo of Greenland in Post #208 with the writing UPSIDE-DOWN, apparently to match the writing on Athanasius' map. STILL WRONG. Nobody orients a map upside-down nor depicts mountains upside-down. 

Then there's the fact there there has NEVER been a landmass of significant size to be interpreted as Atlantis anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic. 

cormac

Come on now, at least one mythical land (i.e. Avalonia) rafted across an ocean in roughly that relative area once before!

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On 8/5/2019 at 1:15 AM, Polar said:

Those images were trying to prove that what Kircher depicted in the center of the island wasn't a mountain, but actually, the plain mentioned in Critias, near the circular ditch where supposedly rivers discharged its waters.

I think Kircher must have had access to some sort of information about the location of the island of Atlantis. That would be the most logical answer.

Why bring something up which has nothing to do with the subject of the thread? 90 % of it is already filled with unrelated material or worse. 

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Was Greenland destroyed in a day and washed beneath the waves? As those images look very much as its well above water..... Hence it cannot be Atlantis. 

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< sigh > 

Atlantis was invented by Plato as a political allegory. It has no more physical existence than Mordor, Narnia or Westeros. 

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1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

< sigh > 

Atlantis was invented by Plato as a political allegory. It has no more physical existence than Mordor, Narnia or Westeros. 

Wakanda forever....... 

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20 minutes ago, Peter Cox said:

Wakanda forever....... 

Yeah.. and Asgard too :P 

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3 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Yeah.. and Asgard too :P 

And :) (wiki extract)

 

Name Description
Agartha A legendary city at Earth's core.
Alfheim Land of elves in Norse mythology.
Alomkik A place accessible to the Abenaki peoples' mythological protector Pamola, where he holds those who trespass on Maine's Mount Katahdin.
Annwn The "otherworld" of Welsh mythology.
Arcadia A vision of pastoralism and harmony with nature, derived from the Greek province of the same name which dates to antiquity.
Asgard The high placed city of the gods, built by Odin, chief god of the Norse pantheon.
Asphodel Meadows In Greek mythology, the section of the underworld where ordinary souls were sent to live after death.
Atlantis The legendary (and almost archetypal) lost continent that was supposed to have sunk into the Atlantic Ocean.
Avalon Legendary Island of Apples, believed by some to be the final resting place of King Arthur.
Axis Mundi The center of the world or the connection between Heaven and Earth in various religions and mythologies.
Ayotha Amirtha Gangai An important river in Ayyavazhi mythology.
Aztlán Legendary original homeland of the Mexica people in Mexica/Aztec mythology.
Baltia An island of amber somewhere in northern Europe.
Biarmaland A geographical area around the White Sea in the northern part of (European) Russia, referred to in Norse sagas.
Biringan city A mythical city that is said to invisibly lie between Gandara, Tarangnan, and Pagsanghan in Samar province of the Philippines. Biringan means "the black city" or the City of the Unknown in Waray.
Brahmapura The abode of Brahma, the Hindu god of creation.
Brasil or Hy-Brasil A mythical island to the west of Ireland.
Brittia A mythical island off the coast of Austrasia.
Camelot The city in which King Arthur reigned.
City of the Caesars A city between a mountain of gold and another of diamonds supposed to be situated in Patagonia.
Cloud cuckoo land A perfect city between the clouds in the play The Birds by Aristophanes.
Cockaigne In medieval mythology, it is a land of plenty where want does not exist.
Diyu The realm of the dead or Hell in Chinese mythology
Dinas Affaraon/Ffaraon Legendary home to a branch of the Druids called the Pheryllt, who worked as metallurgists and alchemists. Also known as “The City of Higher Powers,” or the “Ambrosial City”, its rumored location is Snowdonia and is said to be the original placename of Dinas Emrys.
El Dorado Rumored city of gold in South America. [1]
Elysian Fields In Greek mythology, the final resting place of the souls of the heroic and the virtuous.
Feather Mountain One of many important mythological mountains in Chinese mythology, particularly associated with the Great Flood.
Gorias, Finias, Murias, and Falias In Irish Mythology the Tuatha Dé Danann get their four magical treasures from four legendary cities: Gorias in the east; Finias, in the south; Murias in the west; and Falias in the north.
Garden of the Hesperides In Greek mythology, the sacred garden of Hera from where the gods got their immortality.
Garden of Eden The garden of God, described in the Book of Genesis.
Hawaiki The ancestral island of the Polynesians, particularly the Māori.
Heaven The realm in Abrahamic religions, in which pious people who have died continue to exist in an afterlife.
Hel(heimr) Underworld in Norse mythology
Hell The underworld in Abrahamic religions, in which evil or unrepentant people are punished after death.
Hyperborea A land to the north in Greek mythology.
Irkalla The underworld from which there is no return in Babylonian mythology.
Islands of the Blessed In Greek mythology, a paradise reserved for the souls of the great heroes.
Jabulqa and Jabulsa Two cities mentioned in Shi'i hadith.
Jotunheim Land of the giants in Norse mythology. [2]
Kingdom of Reynes A country mentioned in the Middle English romance King Horn.
Kingdom of Saguenay According to the French, an Iroquoian story of a kingdom of blonde men rich in gold and fur that existed in northern Canada prior to French colonization.
Kolob An astronomical body (star or planet) said to be near the throne of God in Mormon cosmology.
Kitezh A legendary city beneath the waters of Lake Svetloyar
Kunlun Mountain A place where immortals lived according to Chinese mythology.
Kvenland A geographical area referred to in several medieval texts as well as in Norse sagas. The exact location of Kvenland is unknown, though, with several competing theories placing it in either the northern part of the Scandinavian peninsula or the southwestern part of what is now Finland.
Kyöpelinvuori (Finnish for ghosts' mountain), in Finnish mythology, is the place which dead women haunt.
La Ciudad Blanca "The White city", a legendary city of Honduras
Laestrygon Home to a tribe of giant cannibals that Odysseus encountered on his way back home from the Trojan War.
Lake Parime An enormous lake in northeastern South America, supposedly the site of El Dorado
Lemuria A hypothetical "lost land" variously located in the Indian and Pacific Oceans.
Lintukoto In Finnish mythology, a paradise-like place where birds migrate every winter; because it was located near the edge of the sky dome, the sky was very close to the ground and therefore its inhabitants were dwarfs.
Lyonesse A country in Arthurian legend, which is said to border Cornwall in England.
Mag Mell or Tir na nÓg The afterworld of Irish mythology.
Meropis A gigantic island created purely as a parody of Plato's Atlantis.
Mictlan The afterworld of the Mexica.
Mount Olympus In Greek mythology the mountain is referred to as "home of the gods", specifically the Twelve Olympians. [3]
Mount Penglai A legendary mountain in Chinese mythology, said to be situated on an island in the Bohai sea, home to Taoist immortals.
Mu A hypothetical continent that allegedly disappeared at the dawn of human history.
Muspelheim Land of fire in Norse mythology.
Nibiru A mythological planet described by the Babylonians.
Niflheim World of cold in Norse mythology.
Niflhel Cold underworld in Norse mythology.
Norumbega A legendary settlement in northeastern North America, connected with attempts to demonstrate Viking incursions in New England.
Nysa A beautiful valley full of nymphs in Greek mythology.
Paititi A legendary Inca lost city or utopian rich land said to lie east of the Andes.
Pandæmonium The capital of Hell in John Milton's Paradise Lost.
Pohjola The realm of Louhi in Finnish Mythology, literally translated its name means "North".
Purgatory In the Catholic religion, a place where impure souls of those who die are made ready for Heaven.
Ram Setu Believed to be built by apes for the Hindu god Rama, this is a series of limestone shoals between India and Srilanka. Also referred to as Adam's Bridge.
Quivira and Cíbola Two of the legendary Seven Cities of Gold supposed by Spanish conquistadors to have existed in the Americas.
Scholomance A legendary school of black magic run by the Devil himself, located in Hermannstadt (now: Sibiu, Romania). Located in the mountains, south of the city Sibiu, near an unnamed lake.
Sierra de la Plata (Spanish: Silver Mountains), was a legendary treasury of silver that was believed to be located in South America.
Shambhala In Tibetan Buddhist tradition, a kingdom hidden somewhere in the Himalayas; Theosophists regard it as the home on the etheric plane of the governing deity of our planet Sanat Kumara.
Shangri-La A mystical, harmonious valley enclosed in the western end of the Kunlun Mountains.
Sodom and Gomorrah Cities mentioned in the Bible which were destroyed by God because their people were corrupted and evil.
Suddene A country found in the Middle English romance King Horn.
Summerland The name given by Theosophists, Wiccans and some earth-based contemporary pagan religions to their conceptualization of an (mostly pastoral) afterlife.
Svartálfaheimr The land of the Dark Elves in Norse mythology.
Tartarus In Greek mythology, a pit in the underworld for condemned souls.
Takama-ga-hara The dwelling place of the Shinto kami.
Themiscyra The capital city of the Amazons in Greek mythology.
Thule An island somewhere in the belt of Scandinavia, northern Great Britain, Iceland, and Greenland.
Thuvaraiyam Pathi In Ayyavazhi mythology, it was a sunken island some 150 miles off the south coast of India.
Tír na nÓg The Celtic Otherworld in Irish mythology.
Valhalla (from Old Norse Valhöll "hall of the slain") is a majestic, enormous hall located in Asgard, ruled over by the god Odin.
Vanaheimr The Land of the Vanir, another tribe of gods, according to Norse legends.
Westernesse A country found in the Middle English romance King Horn.
Xibalba The underworld in Mayan mythology.
Yomi The land of the dead according to Shinto mythology, as related in the Kojiki.
Ys A city located in Brittany, France that was supposedly built below sea level, and destroyed when the Devil destroyed the dam protecting it.
Zerzura Saharan city known as the "oasis of little birds" rumored to be full of treasure.
Zion A place name often used as a metaphor for Jerusalem, and Olam Haba ("the After world", ״העולם הבא״).
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