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Humans aren’t designed to be happy

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XenoFish

And for some reason, I'm considered a bad guy around here. 

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Desertrat56
15 hours ago, Aquila King said:

Congratulations. This is officially the worst advice I've ever seen anybody give to someone. :mellow: Don't listen to him kids...

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Like Sherlock said, "Sociopath, not psychopath.  Get a bloody dictionary."  :lol:

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jmccr8
On 9/22/2019 at 8:59 AM, RabidMongoose said:

God wants me to dominate others, and to enjoy that pleasure.

Society tells me dominating others is wrong because it makes them feel angry, and stressed, and that makes them resentful towards me. As its not illegal to dominate others, I put God before society.

And God rewards me by frequently giving me the promotions and positions of responsibility instead of them.

Whats that about you might ask? Reality is wired up backwards. 

Hi RapidMongoose

Personally I think it is you that is wired backwards, you sound more like a person that selects people of weaker wills to intimidate because you feel intimidated by your betters and sheet runs downhill.

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RoofGardener

I'm afraid I have to disagree with the opening post. 

Some people are pessimists, some are optimists. 

I'm an optimist. I'm designed to be happy :) 

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Cookie Monster
5 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi RapidMongoose

Personally I think it is you that is wired backwards, you sound more like a person that selects people of weaker wills to intimidate because you feel intimidated by your betters and sheet runs downhill.

jmccr8

Nah, I'm just running a set of weird experiments.

I`m after revealing structure buried within the fabric of reality designed to force us into gaining wisdom of good and evil. I think that old snake in the Garden of Eden isn't Satan but the way to Godhood.

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XenoFish
9 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

I'm an optimist. I'm designed to be happy :) 

Now where did I put my rusty surgical kit. I need to do some rewiring on someone.

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spartan max2
16 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

I'm afraid I have to disagree with the opening post. 

Some people are pessimists, some are optimists. 

I'm an optimist. I'm designed to be happy :) 

Yeah, it does seem like people are born with different "baseline" levels of happiness. 

The real debate is always considering how much of it is in the hands of your genetics and how much isn't. 

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23 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

Nah, I'm just running a set of weird experiments.

I`m after revealing structure buried within the fabric of reality designed to force us into gaining wisdom of good and evil. I think that old snake in the Garden of Eden isn't Satan but the way to Godhood.

How about the possibility that the story you reference was made up by humans to keep other humans subjugated.  If you are practicing an experiment than you don't really believe god rewards you for bad behaviour, you are just using god as a way to poke at people with your sharp stick.

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21 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

Nah, I'm just running a set of weird experiments.

I`m after revealing structure buried within the fabric of reality designed to force us into gaining wisdom of good and evil. I think that old snake in the Garden of Eden isn't Satan but the way to Godhood.

Hi RapidMongoose

From where I am observing I am seeing a guy that's looking for justification for being an ass period. Not that I am a professional in human sciences just a guy that has seen enough in life to know what time of day it is and if I saw you out in real life pulling that on someone else you may not like the serving of good guy that I would likely dish out. My suggestion is to try another way.

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Cookie Monster
14 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi RapidMongoose

From where I am observing I am seeing a guy that's looking for justification for being an ass period. Not that I am a professional in human sciences just a guy that has seen enough in life to know what time of day it is and if I saw you out in real life pulling that on someone else you may not like the serving of good guy that I would likely dish out. My suggestion is to try another way.

jmccr8

Well thats your problem not mine.

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1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

Well thats your problem not mine.

Hi RabidMongoose

Not really, your the one that will have to live with the consequences that seem to elude you in this aspect that you are "testing":rolleyes:

Here is a freebie, first rule of leadership is never ask anyone to do something that you would not or could not do and if you do ask them them roll up your sleeves and prove yourself to them and jump in and work with them. For me this is why god concepts don't work, god never rolls up his sleeves and shows that it is capable enough to man up to the job it demands.

I have run crews of over 60 men and not once did I have to step on anyone to get the recognition of management or the men that worked with me. I am hands on so I physically work on site with my staff and set a pace that they must follow and a standard to be met so what I am capable of to those people is observable so they generally take instruction and guidance quite well.

I am being polite in how my reaction is to your test.:yes:

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Aquila King
3 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

If we have any psychologists here they will tell you to integrate both the good and evil in your personality.

I can say with absolute certainty that the only psychologists who would come even remotely close to saying something like that would be those who've either been paid to say that, or who've had their licenses revoked.

You're simply trying to give yourself a higher moral reasoning (aka excuse) for you to do evil things to other people, because for some odd reason you want to, otherwise you wouldn't be rationalizing as to why you should.

Besides, your whole argument is self-defeating. If doing only good is essentially a bad thing, then you're not doing only good, you're doing evil. And if doing both good and evil in equal shares is essentially the right thing to do, then it isn't good and evil, it's only good. Evil is quite literally by definition the wrong thing to do, so there is no good that comes from intentionally doing it, otherwise it wouldn't be evil, it'd be ultimately good.

So again, you're simply trying to give yourself a bulls**t excuse to treat others like s**t because you want to experience that for some reason. You're trying to come up with a higher moral reason for why you should do evil deeds. That is literally the ideology of a psychopath.

You're objectively in the wrong here on just about every level. You need to seriously get some psychological help.

Also, you really don't help your case by posting videos of Jordan Peterson, the biggest faux-intellectual on the planet.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

If you want to know how bullying works, the tactics bullies use, the impacts it has on the victim, why the victim was chosen, and what the bully is trying to achieve, then the only way to find out is to become the bully.

Yeah no. Not true in the slightest. If that were true then the entire scientific field of psychology is a waste of time, since the only way to learn anything about how and why another person's mind works is to literally induce those exact same thoughts, emotions, behaviors, and experiences within yourself.

Or are you seriously suggesting that the only way to understand mind, the thoughts, and behavior patterns of a pedophile is to become a pedophile? Or that the only way to understand the mind of a serial killer is to become a serial killer? If so then by all means, become those very things and try telling it to the judge as you're sentenced to the electric chair.

We're perfectly capable of understanding how and why people behave the way they do without having to actually think and behave the way they do yourself. Again, you're just giving some BS excuse for why you should be permitted to act out with full knowledge of your wrongdoing, and with evil intent. You're disgustingly sick dude.

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Desertrat56
2 minutes ago, Aquila King said:

I can say with absolute certainty that the only psychologists who would come even remotely close to saying something like that would be those who've either been paid to say that, or who've had their licenses revoked.

You're simply trying to give yourself a higher moral reasoning (aka excuse) for you to do evil things to other people, because for some odd reason you want to, otherwise you wouldn't be rationalizing as to why you should.

Besides, your whole argument is self-defeating. If doing only good is essentially a bad thing, then you're not doing only good, you're doing evil. And if doing both good and evil in equal shares is essentially the right thing to do, then it isn't good and evil, it's only good. Evil is quite literally by definition the wrong thing to do, so there is no good that comes from intentionally doing it, otherwise it wouldn't be evil, it'd be ultimately good.

So again, you're simply trying to give yourself a bulls**t excuse to treat others like s**t because you want to experience that for some reason. You're trying to come up with a higher moral reason for why you should do evil deeds. That is literally the ideology of a psychopath.

You're objectively in the wrong here on just about every level. You need to seriously get some psychological help.

Also, you really don't help your case by posting videos of Jordan Peterson, the biggest faux-intellectual on the planet.

Yeah no. Not true in the slightest. If that were true then the entire scientific field of psychology is a waste of time, since the only way to learn anything about how and why another person's mind works is to literally induce those exact same thoughts, emotions, behaviors, and experiences within yourself.

Or are you seriously suggesting that the only way to understand mind, the thoughts, and behavior patterns of a pedophile is to become a pedophile? Or that the only way to understand the mind of a serial killer is to become a serial killer? If so then by all means, become those very things and try telling it to the judge as you're sentenced to the electric chair.

We're perfectly capable of understanding how and why people behave the way they do without having to actually think and behave the way they do yourself. Again, you're just giving some BS excuse for why you should be permitted to act out with full knowledge of your wrongdoing, and with evil intent. You're disgustingly sick dude.

Not to mention, what he describes is not integrating anything.

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XenoFish
1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said:

Not to mention, what he describes is not integrating anything.

It's the justification of malicious intent. Nothing more. Integration should create a balance.

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Aquila King
1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said:

Not to mention, what he describes is not integrating anything.

It's just so blatantly obvious that he's just looking for an excuse to do bad things. As if this "experiment" nonsense in any way gives him valid permit to do so with little to no repercussions for his actions.

He just wants to and is looking for an excuse to do so without consequence. Everyone sees it except him.

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The majority of people here have pushed bullying others into their shadow.

The character attacks on myself portraying me as hating the world, as just looking for an excuse to be abusive to others, and as needing help, highlight my point exactly. The process of parenting and socialisation we have been through on this topic has resulted in strongly felt repression of all desire to mean towards others.

It is so extensive that it doesnt matter if I am just running an experiment, I must surely be the monster you have been indoctrinated into believing abusive people are. Look at yourselves people, you are repressed. I can sense the shocks, the gasps, the pure horror, at even contemplating that there is an abusive monster inside you all lurking around in the shadows.

No doubt you all think abusing others is something wholly negative too? But ask yourselves, how do you know? If you lack the wisdom of having bullied someone then how do you know if there isn't a positive side to it as well? To you lot, it is and will remain forbidden knowledge unless you integrate your shadows.

I maintain my stance that the only way to know what evil really is, is to try it out. Until you have then you are like sheep which wonder around without the slightest clue they are surrounded by wolves. And once you can spot them, once you know what they are up too, why they do what they do, and what their games are, then you can protect yourself properly. That is positive wisdom gaining from bullying others.

Psychologists treating certain types of patients do intend give them a theory of evil. Usually they are the empaths who have been messed up by an evil person. You could call them a sheep clueless about darker intentions in people. Until people integrate their dark side they are all targets to some extent.

For those who are religious then God created both good and evil.

The route back to oneness is about integrating both good and evil within ourselves. It is not about being solely good, we are supposed to be evil too. Go read the Gospel of Thomas and notice how it is a great long list of Jesus telling us to integrate all dualities in ourselves, including good and evil.

You cannot recreate oneness without fully integrating all dualities.

Like I wrote earlier on, I used to attract attention seekers until I started attention seeking. Attention seekers used to annoy me something rotten and I would get quite angry about them. I at no stage ever contemplated there was an attention seeker buried in my shadow.

Then I integrated it. I am now both an attention seeker and not an attention seeker. I united that duality inside myself, and reality has changed for me. Before I was drowning in annoying attention seekers, but not anymore. Crazy and bonkers.

There might well be 100s if not 1000s of dualities which I can integrate inside myself. The latest is I`m a nice guy and I`m a mean guy. I`m having fun too and have already notice odd effects.

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XenoFish

I am that I am

Ain't rocket surgery.

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15 hours ago, Aquila King said:

 

He just wants to and is looking for an excuse to do so without consequence. Everyone sees it except him.

 

I think he sees it.

He is just playing games in here (but, mostly he is just trying to find himself).

A real psychopath wouldn't act this way!

I think he is trying to find the balance inside himself.

I actually think what he is doing is a cry for help in some strange way.

 

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Aquila King
48 minutes ago, LightAngel said:

I think he sees it.

He is just playing games in here (but, mostly he is just trying to find himself).

A real psychopath wouldn't act this way!

I think he is trying to find the balance inside himself.

I actually think what he is doing is a cry for help in some strange way.

I admire the positive outlook, but no. There is no positive way one could accurately interpret his behavior. He's objectively wrong, and simply looking for an excuse to do bad things. Don't just tap dance around that fact because it's uncouth to make such a claim towards a fellow UM member. Call it what it is: him just being a jack ass.

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Aquila King
1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

The majority of people here have pushed bullying others into their shadow.

The character attacks on myself portraying me as hating the world, as just looking for an excuse to be abusive to others, and as needing help, highlight my point exactly. The process of parenting and socialisation we have been through on this topic has resulted in strongly felt repression of all desire to mean towards others.

It is so extensive that it doesnt matter if I am just running an experiment, I must surely be the monster you have been indoctrinated into believing abusive people are. Look at yourselves people, you are repressed. I can sense the shocks, the gasps, the pure horror, at even contemplating that there is an abusive monster inside you all lurking around in the shadows.

It must apparently be inconceivable to you that most of us here genuinely have no inherent desire whatsoever to bully others or treat others like crap.

This isn't just a matter of "socialization" since regardless of any parenting we might or might not have had on the topic of bullying, many of us now as full grown adults recognize the inherent harm that comes from such behavior, and simply have no desire to inflict said harm onto others.

We aren't "repressing" any desires here either, since again, the desire itself just isn't there. None of us here are repressing the desire to rip the skin off our face with a rusty knife either. We just have absolutely no desire to do such a thing.

This is why people here are calling you a sick ass psychopath just looking for an excuse to hurt others, because from our perspective, none of us here genuinely have no desire to bully, harass, or abuse others. It just isn't there. You personally may be repressing said desires, but I sure as hell know I'm not.

And that doesn't mean we're "virtue signaling" either, that just means we're normal human beings. So what the F is wrong with you? Why do you want to abuse people so badly? This is why you need professional help.

1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

No doubt you all think abusing others is something wholly negative too? But ask yourselves, how do you know? If you lack the wisdom of having bullied someone then how do you know if there isn't a positive side to it as well? To you lot, it is and will remain forbidden knowledge unless you integrate your shadows.

I maintain my stance that the only way to know what evil really is, is to try it out. Until you have then you are like sheep which wonder around without the slightest clue they are surrounded by wolves. And once you can spot them, once you know what they are up too, why they do what they do, and what their games are, then you can protect yourself properly. That is positive wisdom gaining from bullying others.

We know that bullying others is a wholly negative experience because we can accurately measure the objective physical and psychological harm that such an action causes to people, as well as the harm that it causes society as a whole as well.

We don't have to actively participate in bullying to know that it's a bad thing. We don't have to actively be a pedophile to know that it's a bad thing. We don't need to murder 10 people to know that being a serial killer is a bad thing. We don't need to do evil deeds to know that doing evil deeds are indeed evil. All we need to do is measure the effects of what such evil deeds cause, and thus determine them to be negative actions that shouldn't be done.

According to your "logic" we should all go rape, murder, and steal etc in an effort to "understand" our (supposed) evil impulses; despite the fact that doing so would innevitably result in the complete destruction and breakdown of civilized society.

If you don't know by now that bullying and any other abusive immoral behavior is wrong, then you need to study up on the effects such behaviors have on people. You don't need to actively engage in said behaviors yourself.

This is exactly why people here are calling you out for just looking for an excuse to act out negatively. You're claiming we all have the same desire to do evil deeds as you (which we don't), and that the only way for you to learn about the effects of evil is to do evil things (which is bulls**t). There really is no other way to interpret that other than you just wanting to do bad s**t, and trying to come up with an excuse for you to do be able to do it.

1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

Psychologists treating certain types of patients do intend give them a theory of evil. Usually they are the empaths who have been messed up by an evil person. You could call them a sheep clueless about darker intentions in people. Until people integrate their dark side they are all targets to some extent.

Mhmm. Yeah. All those people who spent 8+ years getting a doctorate degree in psychology, studying the mind and human behavior, they're all wrong. Unlike you, some random dips**t online spouting nonsense about "learning only by doing," all without any real experience in studying human psychology since you don't even believe anything can be learned from it in the first place. 

The best way to push forward pseudoscientific bulls**t is to completely dismiss an entire field of established science. That's why creationists dismiss evolution, and flat earthers dismiss basically all of cosmology. You're essentially acting no different than them by dismissing all of human psychology, in order to push forward your own BS hypothesis here.

2 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

For those who are religious then God created both good and evil.

The route back to oneness is about integrating both good and evil within ourselves. It is not about being solely good, we are supposed to be evil too. Go read the Gospel of Thomas and notice how it is a great long list of Jesus telling us to integrate all dualities in ourselves, including good and evil.

You cannot recreate oneness without fully integrating all dualities.

Like I wrote earlier on, I used to attract attention seekers until I started attention seeking. Attention seekers used to annoy me something rotten and I would get quite angry about them. I at no stage ever contemplated there was an attention seeker buried in my shadow.

Then I integrated it. I am now both an attention seeker and not an attention seeker. I united that duality inside myself, and reality has changed for me. Before I was drowning in annoying attention seekers, but not anymore. Crazy and bonkers.

There might well be 100s if not 1000s of dualities which I can integrate inside myself. The latest is I`m a nice guy and I`m a mean guy. I`m having fun too and have already notice odd effects.

There is absolutely no scientific reason why "integrating" evil into one's life is beneficial to either yourself, or others. It's important to acknowledge one's own base impulses and desires, yes, but we do so in order to gain better control over those desires so as to not act upon them. You might for instance have the base desire to act out violently when you get angry, but by becoming more mindful and aware of your impulse to do so, you can better control your actions to not do so in the future.

This is the entire basis for most of human psychology. It is the attempt to expand one's own consciousness and become aware of your own negative thoughts / feelings / behaviors, and then taking steps in order to correct them for the better. That is the purpose behind acknowledging one's own "duality" here. Becoming "whole" is in merely acknowledging the existence of whatever negative impulses you personally might have. It doesn't mean you act on them, it means you simply acknowledge them in order to take greater control over them, and correct them for the better.

So to summarize the problem you're having here in totality...

I believe the main problem is that you're failing to acknowledge the scientific field of psychology as a whole, which is then leading you to make up completely pseudoscientific nonsense to put in it's place. You also have some really dark desires that most other people don't have, and so without any proper foundation of modern psychology to build upon, you're trying to come up with a justification that would allow you to act upon those dark desires without consequence.

You need to acknowledge the field of psychology as a real and established science, and seek professional help to get at the root cause for why you desire to do such evil things in the first place. Then take proactive steps to curb any impulses you might have to act on such evil desires. I know this will all likely fall on deaf ears, but I really do wish you the best of luck in that...

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@Aquila King

Wow, you really took the time to respond there lol:P

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7 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

@Aquila King

Wow, you really took the time to respond there lol:P

I merely said what needed to be said in totality. No more, no less.

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On 7/20/2019 at 1:41 AM, XenoFish said:

Join me, join the pessimistic side of the force. 

Done.

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4 hours ago, Aquila King said:

It must apparently be inconceivable to you that most of us here genuinely have no inherent desire whatsoever to bully others or treat others like crap.

This isn't just a matter of "socialization" since regardless of any parenting we might or might not have had on the topic of bullying, many of us now as full grown adults recognize the inherent harm that comes from such behavior, and simply have no desire to inflict said harm onto others.

We aren't "repressing" any desires here either, since again, the desire itself just isn't there. None of us here are repressing the desire to rip the skin off our face with a rusty knife either. We just have absolutely no desire to do such a thing.

This is why people here are calling you a sick ass psychopath just looking for an excuse to hurt others, because from our perspective, none of us here genuinely have no desire to bully, harass, or abuse others. It just isn't there. You personally may be repressing said desires, but I sure as hell know I'm not.

And that doesn't mean we're "virtue signaling" either, that just means we're normal human beings. So what the F is wrong with you? Why do you want to abuse people so badly? This is why you need professional help.

We know that bullying others is a wholly negative experience because we can accurately measure the objective physical and psychological harm that such an action causes to people, as well as the harm that it causes society as a whole as well.

We don't have to actively participate in bullying to know that it's a bad thing. We don't have to actively be a pedophile to know that it's a bad thing. We don't need to murder 10 people to know that being a serial killer is a bad thing. We don't need to do evil deeds to know that doing evil deeds are indeed evil. All we need to do is measure the effects of what such evil deeds cause, and thus determine them to be negative actions that shouldn't be done.

According to your "logic" we should all go rape, murder, and steal etc in an effort to "understand" our (supposed) evil impulses; despite the fact that doing so would innevitably result in the complete destruction and breakdown of civilized society.

If you don't know by now that bullying and any other abusive immoral behavior is wrong, then you need to study up on the effects such behaviors have on people. You don't need to actively engage in said behaviors yourself.

This is exactly why people here are calling you out for just looking for an excuse to act out negatively. You're claiming we all have the same desire to do evil deeds as you (which we don't), and that the only way for you to learn about the effects of evil is to do evil things (which is bulls**t). There really is no other way to interpret that other than you just wanting to do bad s**t, and trying to come up with an excuse for you to do be able to do it.

Mhmm. Yeah. All those people who spent 8+ years getting a doctorate degree in psychology, studying the mind and human behavior, they're all wrong. Unlike you, some random dips**t online spouting nonsense about "learning only by doing," all without any real experience in studying human psychology since you don't even believe anything can be learned from it in the first place. 

The best way to push forward pseudoscientific bulls**t is to completely dismiss an entire field of established science. That's why creationists dismiss evolution, and flat earthers dismiss basically all of cosmology. You're essentially acting no different than them by dismissing all of human psychology, in order to push forward your own BS hypothesis here.

There is absolutely no scientific reason why "integrating" evil into one's life is beneficial to either yourself, or others. It's important to acknowledge one's own base impulses and desires, yes, but we do so in order to gain better control over those desires so as to not act upon them. You might for instance have the base desire to act out violently when you get angry, but by becoming more mindful and aware of your impulse to do so, you can better control your actions to not do so in the future.

This is the entire basis for most of human psychology. It is the attempt to expand one's own consciousness and become aware of your own negative thoughts / feelings / behaviors, and then taking steps in order to correct them for the better. That is the purpose behind acknowledging one's own "duality" here. Becoming "whole" is in merely acknowledging the existence of whatever negative impulses you personally might have. It doesn't mean you act on them, it means you simply acknowledge them in order to take greater control over them, and correct them for the better.

So to summarize the problem you're having here in totality...

I believe the main problem is that you're failing to acknowledge the scientific field of psychology as a whole, which is then leading you to make up completely pseudoscientific nonsense to put in it's place. You also have some really dark desires that most other people don't have, and so without any proper foundation of modern psychology to build upon, you're trying to come up with a justification that would allow you to act upon those dark desires without consequence.

You need to acknowledge the field of psychology as a real and established science, and seek professional help to get at the root cause for why you desire to do such evil things in the first place. Then take proactive steps to curb any impulses you might have to act on such evil desires. I know this will all likely fall on deaf ears, but I really do wish you the best of luck in that...

Your post is too big for me to reply to in whole.

If a child is born into an abusive family environment and isn't socialised properly then they develop into a sociopath. The reason why you arent a sociopath is because your parents didnt make you hate the world, and because you learned pro-social skills.

The capacity to hate the world and potential to be anti-social is still within you but it is hidden deep down in your shadow. Its your parents, society, and religion, telling you what was right and wrong that made you put it there. This happened early on in your psychological development.

All people who dont hate the world and who have pro-social personality traits are uncomfortable with bullying others. It makes them feel bad, it provokes an emotional response in them. Both you and I have that. But we could have ended up with very different shadows if our life circumstances were different. Think about that.

Right now most of reality you will never experience. Some of it your life circumstances prevent you from knowing, some is off limits as its illegal, much of it you prevent yourself from knowing. That is because you absolutely refuse to even explore what is hidden away in your shadow.

All people have absolute darkness hidden in their shadows. Let me ask you:

1. Would you kill to protect your children?

2. How many people would you be prepared to kill to protect your children?

3. Would you steal if the alternative was starving to death?

4. Would you mug, thieve, and burgle, to feed your kids?

5. If an asteroid was about to impact the Earth and you had to lie, cheat, and manipulate to get into the survival bunker would you?

6. How about to get your kids in?

I could spend all day inventing the most elaborate of scenarios until I have got you to admit that under the right circumstances you would kill. Not just one person, not just millions, but billions.

Admit it. You could kill, thieve, mug, lie, cheat, and manipulate. All that needs to happen is for the right set of circumstances to come along. You monster! You absolute monster! I would hate to be stranded on a boat with you in the middle of the pacific for 6 weeks. You would eat me.

Now we have got that out the way are you going to admit that you have a shadow or continue to lie to yourself to protect your ego? Admitting you have one doesnt mean you are going to run out and commit a multitude of criminal offences. It doesnt make you worse than anybody else as we all have one.

There is a lot of stuff in your shadow for which there is no penalty for exploring. Maybe you are a closet homosexual? You definitely have the means to bully people and be mean to them. You could engage in some really bizarre behaviour convincing people you are an eccentric. You could do 1001 things in your life and integrate a huge amount of your shadow into your conscious mind.

What I am looking for is changes to how reality unfolds by integrating various aspects of my shadow with my consciousness. I am looking for hidden links structuring reality. That might not be of interest to you, but it is to me. 

Is your ego now going to go on the offensive, character assassinating me again because you cannot admit to yourself your true nature?

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One thing I know, is that I don't have to deal with the consequence of your life Rabid. 

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