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Humans aren’t designed to be happy

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RabidMongoose

The majority of people here have pushed bullying others into their shadow.

The character attacks on myself portraying me as hating the world, as just looking for an excuse to be abusive to others, and as needing help, highlight my point exactly. The process of parenting and socialisation we have been through on this topic has resulted in strongly felt repression of all desire to mean towards others.

It is so extensive that it doesnt matter if I am just running an experiment, I must surely be the monster you have been indoctrinated into believing abusive people are. Look at yourselves people, you are repressed. I can sense the shocks, the gasps, the pure horror, at even contemplating that there is an abusive monster inside you all lurking around in the shadows.

No doubt you all think abusing others is something wholly negative too? But ask yourselves, how do you know? If you lack the wisdom of having bullied someone then how do you know if there isn't a positive side to it as well? To you lot, it is and will remain forbidden knowledge unless you integrate your shadows.

I maintain my stance that the only way to know what evil really is, is to try it out. Until you have then you are like sheep which wonder around without the slightest clue they are surrounded by wolves. And once you can spot them, once you know what they are up too, why they do what they do, and what their games are, then you can protect yourself properly. That is positive wisdom gaining from bullying others.

Psychologists treating certain types of patients do intend give them a theory of evil. Usually they are the empaths who have been messed up by an evil person. You could call them a sheep clueless about darker intentions in people. Until people integrate their dark side they are all targets to some extent.

For those who are religious then God created both good and evil.

The route back to oneness is about integrating both good and evil within ourselves. It is not about being solely good, we are supposed to be evil too. Go read the Gospel of Thomas and notice how it is a great long list of Jesus telling us to integrate all dualities in ourselves, including good and evil.

You cannot recreate oneness without fully integrating all dualities.

Like I wrote earlier on, I used to attract attention seekers until I started attention seeking. Attention seekers used to annoy me something rotten and I would get quite angry about them. I at no stage ever contemplated there was an attention seeker buried in my shadow.

Then I integrated it. I am now both an attention seeker and not an attention seeker. I united that duality inside myself, and reality has changed for me. Before I was drowning in annoying attention seekers, but not anymore. Crazy and bonkers.

There might well be 100s if not 1000s of dualities which I can integrate inside myself. The latest is I`m a nice guy and I`m a mean guy. I`m having fun too and have already notice odd effects.

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XenoFish

I am that I am

Ain't rocket surgery.

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LightAngel
15 hours ago, Aquila King said:

 

He just wants to and is looking for an excuse to do so without consequence. Everyone sees it except him.

 

I think he sees it.

He is just playing games in here (but, mostly he is just trying to find himself).

A real psychopath wouldn't act this way!

I think he is trying to find the balance inside himself.

I actually think what he is doing is a cry for help in some strange way.

 

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Aquila King
48 minutes ago, LightAngel said:

I think he sees it.

He is just playing games in here (but, mostly he is just trying to find himself).

A real psychopath wouldn't act this way!

I think he is trying to find the balance inside himself.

I actually think what he is doing is a cry for help in some strange way.

I admire the positive outlook, but no. There is no positive way one could accurately interpret his behavior. He's objectively wrong, and simply looking for an excuse to do bad things. Don't just tap dance around that fact because it's uncouth to make such a claim towards a fellow UM member. Call it what it is: him just being a jack ass.

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Aquila King
1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

The majority of people here have pushed bullying others into their shadow.

The character attacks on myself portraying me as hating the world, as just looking for an excuse to be abusive to others, and as needing help, highlight my point exactly. The process of parenting and socialisation we have been through on this topic has resulted in strongly felt repression of all desire to mean towards others.

It is so extensive that it doesnt matter if I am just running an experiment, I must surely be the monster you have been indoctrinated into believing abusive people are. Look at yourselves people, you are repressed. I can sense the shocks, the gasps, the pure horror, at even contemplating that there is an abusive monster inside you all lurking around in the shadows.

It must apparently be inconceivable to you that most of us here genuinely have no inherent desire whatsoever to bully others or treat others like crap.

This isn't just a matter of "socialization" since regardless of any parenting we might or might not have had on the topic of bullying, many of us now as full grown adults recognize the inherent harm that comes from such behavior, and simply have no desire to inflict said harm onto others.

We aren't "repressing" any desires here either, since again, the desire itself just isn't there. None of us here are repressing the desire to rip the skin off our face with a rusty knife either. We just have absolutely no desire to do such a thing.

This is why people here are calling you a sick ass psychopath just looking for an excuse to hurt others, because from our perspective, none of us here genuinely have no desire to bully, harass, or abuse others. It just isn't there. You personally may be repressing said desires, but I sure as hell know I'm not.

And that doesn't mean we're "virtue signaling" either, that just means we're normal human beings. So what the F is wrong with you? Why do you want to abuse people so badly? This is why you need professional help.

1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

No doubt you all think abusing others is something wholly negative too? But ask yourselves, how do you know? If you lack the wisdom of having bullied someone then how do you know if there isn't a positive side to it as well? To you lot, it is and will remain forbidden knowledge unless you integrate your shadows.

I maintain my stance that the only way to know what evil really is, is to try it out. Until you have then you are like sheep which wonder around without the slightest clue they are surrounded by wolves. And once you can spot them, once you know what they are up too, why they do what they do, and what their games are, then you can protect yourself properly. That is positive wisdom gaining from bullying others.

We know that bullying others is a wholly negative experience because we can accurately measure the objective physical and psychological harm that such an action causes to people, as well as the harm that it causes society as a whole as well.

We don't have to actively participate in bullying to know that it's a bad thing. We don't have to actively be a pedophile to know that it's a bad thing. We don't need to murder 10 people to know that being a serial killer is a bad thing. We don't need to do evil deeds to know that doing evil deeds are indeed evil. All we need to do is measure the effects of what such evil deeds cause, and thus determine them to be negative actions that shouldn't be done.

According to your "logic" we should all go rape, murder, and steal etc in an effort to "understand" our (supposed) evil impulses; despite the fact that doing so would innevitably result in the complete destruction and breakdown of civilized society.

If you don't know by now that bullying and any other abusive immoral behavior is wrong, then you need to study up on the effects such behaviors have on people. You don't need to actively engage in said behaviors yourself.

This is exactly why people here are calling you out for just looking for an excuse to act out negatively. You're claiming we all have the same desire to do evil deeds as you (which we don't), and that the only way for you to learn about the effects of evil is to do evil things (which is bulls**t). There really is no other way to interpret that other than you just wanting to do bad s**t, and trying to come up with an excuse for you to do be able to do it.

1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

Psychologists treating certain types of patients do intend give them a theory of evil. Usually they are the empaths who have been messed up by an evil person. You could call them a sheep clueless about darker intentions in people. Until people integrate their dark side they are all targets to some extent.

Mhmm. Yeah. All those people who spent 8+ years getting a doctorate degree in psychology, studying the mind and human behavior, they're all wrong. Unlike you, some random dips**t online spouting nonsense about "learning only by doing," all without any real experience in studying human psychology since you don't even believe anything can be learned from it in the first place. 

The best way to push forward pseudoscientific bulls**t is to completely dismiss an entire field of established science. That's why creationists dismiss evolution, and flat earthers dismiss basically all of cosmology. You're essentially acting no different than them by dismissing all of human psychology, in order to push forward your own BS hypothesis here.

2 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

For those who are religious then God created both good and evil.

The route back to oneness is about integrating both good and evil within ourselves. It is not about being solely good, we are supposed to be evil too. Go read the Gospel of Thomas and notice how it is a great long list of Jesus telling us to integrate all dualities in ourselves, including good and evil.

You cannot recreate oneness without fully integrating all dualities.

Like I wrote earlier on, I used to attract attention seekers until I started attention seeking. Attention seekers used to annoy me something rotten and I would get quite angry about them. I at no stage ever contemplated there was an attention seeker buried in my shadow.

Then I integrated it. I am now both an attention seeker and not an attention seeker. I united that duality inside myself, and reality has changed for me. Before I was drowning in annoying attention seekers, but not anymore. Crazy and bonkers.

There might well be 100s if not 1000s of dualities which I can integrate inside myself. The latest is I`m a nice guy and I`m a mean guy. I`m having fun too and have already notice odd effects.

There is absolutely no scientific reason why "integrating" evil into one's life is beneficial to either yourself, or others. It's important to acknowledge one's own base impulses and desires, yes, but we do so in order to gain better control over those desires so as to not act upon them. You might for instance have the base desire to act out violently when you get angry, but by becoming more mindful and aware of your impulse to do so, you can better control your actions to not do so in the future.

This is the entire basis for most of human psychology. It is the attempt to expand one's own consciousness and become aware of your own negative thoughts / feelings / behaviors, and then taking steps in order to correct them for the better. That is the purpose behind acknowledging one's own "duality" here. Becoming "whole" is in merely acknowledging the existence of whatever negative impulses you personally might have. It doesn't mean you act on them, it means you simply acknowledge them in order to take greater control over them, and correct them for the better.

So to summarize the problem you're having here in totality...

I believe the main problem is that you're failing to acknowledge the scientific field of psychology as a whole, which is then leading you to make up completely pseudoscientific nonsense to put in it's place. You also have some really dark desires that most other people don't have, and so without any proper foundation of modern psychology to build upon, you're trying to come up with a justification that would allow you to act upon those dark desires without consequence.

You need to acknowledge the field of psychology as a real and established science, and seek professional help to get at the root cause for why you desire to do such evil things in the first place. Then take proactive steps to curb any impulses you might have to act on such evil desires. I know this will all likely fall on deaf ears, but I really do wish you the best of luck in that...

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spartan max2

@Aquila King

Wow, you really took the time to respond there lol:P

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Aquila King
7 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

@Aquila King

Wow, you really took the time to respond there lol:P

I merely said what needed to be said in totality. No more, no less.

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Horta
On 7/20/2019 at 1:41 AM, XenoFish said:

Join me, join the pessimistic side of the force. 

Done.

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RabidMongoose
4 hours ago, Aquila King said:

It must apparently be inconceivable to you that most of us here genuinely have no inherent desire whatsoever to bully others or treat others like crap.

This isn't just a matter of "socialization" since regardless of any parenting we might or might not have had on the topic of bullying, many of us now as full grown adults recognize the inherent harm that comes from such behavior, and simply have no desire to inflict said harm onto others.

We aren't "repressing" any desires here either, since again, the desire itself just isn't there. None of us here are repressing the desire to rip the skin off our face with a rusty knife either. We just have absolutely no desire to do such a thing.

This is why people here are calling you a sick ass psychopath just looking for an excuse to hurt others, because from our perspective, none of us here genuinely have no desire to bully, harass, or abuse others. It just isn't there. You personally may be repressing said desires, but I sure as hell know I'm not.

And that doesn't mean we're "virtue signaling" either, that just means we're normal human beings. So what the F is wrong with you? Why do you want to abuse people so badly? This is why you need professional help.

We know that bullying others is a wholly negative experience because we can accurately measure the objective physical and psychological harm that such an action causes to people, as well as the harm that it causes society as a whole as well.

We don't have to actively participate in bullying to know that it's a bad thing. We don't have to actively be a pedophile to know that it's a bad thing. We don't need to murder 10 people to know that being a serial killer is a bad thing. We don't need to do evil deeds to know that doing evil deeds are indeed evil. All we need to do is measure the effects of what such evil deeds cause, and thus determine them to be negative actions that shouldn't be done.

According to your "logic" we should all go rape, murder, and steal etc in an effort to "understand" our (supposed) evil impulses; despite the fact that doing so would innevitably result in the complete destruction and breakdown of civilized society.

If you don't know by now that bullying and any other abusive immoral behavior is wrong, then you need to study up on the effects such behaviors have on people. You don't need to actively engage in said behaviors yourself.

This is exactly why people here are calling you out for just looking for an excuse to act out negatively. You're claiming we all have the same desire to do evil deeds as you (which we don't), and that the only way for you to learn about the effects of evil is to do evil things (which is bulls**t). There really is no other way to interpret that other than you just wanting to do bad s**t, and trying to come up with an excuse for you to do be able to do it.

Mhmm. Yeah. All those people who spent 8+ years getting a doctorate degree in psychology, studying the mind and human behavior, they're all wrong. Unlike you, some random dips**t online spouting nonsense about "learning only by doing," all without any real experience in studying human psychology since you don't even believe anything can be learned from it in the first place. 

The best way to push forward pseudoscientific bulls**t is to completely dismiss an entire field of established science. That's why creationists dismiss evolution, and flat earthers dismiss basically all of cosmology. You're essentially acting no different than them by dismissing all of human psychology, in order to push forward your own BS hypothesis here.

There is absolutely no scientific reason why "integrating" evil into one's life is beneficial to either yourself, or others. It's important to acknowledge one's own base impulses and desires, yes, but we do so in order to gain better control over those desires so as to not act upon them. You might for instance have the base desire to act out violently when you get angry, but by becoming more mindful and aware of your impulse to do so, you can better control your actions to not do so in the future.

This is the entire basis for most of human psychology. It is the attempt to expand one's own consciousness and become aware of your own negative thoughts / feelings / behaviors, and then taking steps in order to correct them for the better. That is the purpose behind acknowledging one's own "duality" here. Becoming "whole" is in merely acknowledging the existence of whatever negative impulses you personally might have. It doesn't mean you act on them, it means you simply acknowledge them in order to take greater control over them, and correct them for the better.

So to summarize the problem you're having here in totality...

I believe the main problem is that you're failing to acknowledge the scientific field of psychology as a whole, which is then leading you to make up completely pseudoscientific nonsense to put in it's place. You also have some really dark desires that most other people don't have, and so without any proper foundation of modern psychology to build upon, you're trying to come up with a justification that would allow you to act upon those dark desires without consequence.

You need to acknowledge the field of psychology as a real and established science, and seek professional help to get at the root cause for why you desire to do such evil things in the first place. Then take proactive steps to curb any impulses you might have to act on such evil desires. I know this will all likely fall on deaf ears, but I really do wish you the best of luck in that...

Your post is too big for me to reply to in whole.

If a child is born into an abusive family environment and isn't socialised properly then they develop into a sociopath. The reason why you arent a sociopath is because your parents didnt make you hate the world, and because you learned pro-social skills.

The capacity to hate the world and potential to be anti-social is still within you but it is hidden deep down in your shadow. Its your parents, society, and religion, telling you what was right and wrong that made you put it there. This happened early on in your psychological development.

All people who dont hate the world and who have pro-social personality traits are uncomfortable with bullying others. It makes them feel bad, it provokes an emotional response in them. Both you and I have that. But we could have ended up with very different shadows if our life circumstances were different. Think about that.

Right now most of reality you will never experience. Some of it your life circumstances prevent you from knowing, some is off limits as its illegal, much of it you prevent yourself from knowing. That is because you absolutely refuse to even explore what is hidden away in your shadow.

All people have absolute darkness hidden in their shadows. Let me ask you:

1. Would you kill to protect your children?

2. How many people would you be prepared to kill to protect your children?

3. Would you steal if the alternative was starving to death?

4. Would you mug, thieve, and burgle, to feed your kids?

5. If an asteroid was about to impact the Earth and you had to lie, cheat, and manipulate to get into the survival bunker would you?

6. How about to get your kids in?

I could spend all day inventing the most elaborate of scenarios until I have got you to admit that under the right circumstances you would kill. Not just one person, not just millions, but billions.

Admit it. You could kill, thieve, mug, lie, cheat, and manipulate. All that needs to happen is for the right set of circumstances to come along. You monster! You absolute monster! I would hate to be stranded on a boat with you in the middle of the pacific for 6 weeks. You would eat me.

Now we have got that out the way are you going to admit that you have a shadow or continue to lie to yourself to protect your ego? Admitting you have one doesnt mean you are going to run out and commit a multitude of criminal offences. It doesnt make you worse than anybody else as we all have one.

There is a lot of stuff in your shadow for which there is no penalty for exploring. Maybe you are a closet homosexual? You definitely have the means to bully people and be mean to them. You could engage in some really bizarre behaviour convincing people you are an eccentric. You could do 1001 things in your life and integrate a huge amount of your shadow into your conscious mind.

What I am looking for is changes to how reality unfolds by integrating various aspects of my shadow with my consciousness. I am looking for hidden links structuring reality. That might not be of interest to you, but it is to me. 

Is your ego now going to go on the offensive, character assassinating me again because you cannot admit to yourself your true nature?

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XenoFish

One thing I know, is that I don't have to deal with the consequence of your life Rabid. 

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Humans aren't designed.

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RabidMongoose
1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

One thing I know, is that I don't have to deal with the consequence of your life Rabid. 

And I look forward to seeing and experiencing what they actually are.

If there are some positives thats great, and if there are some negatives then thats great too.

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Just now, RabidMongoose said:

And I look forward to seeing and experiencing what they actually are.

If there are some positives thats great, and if there are some negatives then thats great too.

If you start posting about being unemployed and get a beat down by a coworker/s, you brought it on yourself. 

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spartan max2

@RabidMongoose I would probably Answer Yes to all of those questions.

Though, seeing how you are not in any of those situations it's completely irrelevant to you being a jerk. 

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Aquila King
3 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

Your post is too big for me to reply to in whole.

Don't just defend your position for the sake of it because you feel obligated to do so. This may be a discussion forum, where debates are just a natural part of the system here. But don't default to that right now. I'm just speaking to you as a person, man to man, about the inherently wrong and bad ideas that you're positing here. 

There's nothing shameful about admitting when you're wrong. In fact, that's one of the most mature things someone could ever do. I've been wrong in the past a metric **** ton of times, and been called out for it. It's hard to admit it publicly when you're called out for it, but when you are you just have fess up and try to do better the next time. Hell, when I first joined this forum, I was a deep believer in Astrotheology and Astrology, lol. Thankfully other members here dissuaded me from that nonsense, and I've grown as a person thanks to that.

I and many others here would have a much greater and deeper respect for you if you did just admit you were wrong. Because really there simply is no debate to be had here. You're just objectively in the wrong on this issue, and my responses here have been a plea for you to wake up to that fact, not to just civilly discuss / debate differing ideas. So just man up and admit you were wrong here, and try to work on the real issues you clearly have bud. Okay?

Now I'm gonna try and respond to the rest of your post in a short and precise manner, but just keep in mind that I'm not looking to personally attack you or engage in some civil debate as if this nonsense your espousing is worthy of such a thing. I'm just trying to dispel these false notions you have here so you can grow as a person, and hopefully not hurt anyone else around you.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

If a child is born into an abusive family environment and isn't socialised properly then they develop into a sociopath. The reason why you arent a sociopath is because your parents didnt make you hate the world, and because you learned pro-social skills.

The capacity to hate the world and potential to be anti-social is still within you but it is hidden deep down in your shadow. Its your parents, society, and religion, telling you what was right and wrong that made you put it there. This happened early on in your psychological development.

All people who dont hate the world and who have pro-social personality traits are uncomfortable with bullying others. It makes them feel bad, it provokes an emotional response in them. Both you and I have that. But we could have ended up with very different shadows if our life circumstances were different. Think about that.

That's true. We could've ended up very different people under different circumstances, and we're all potentially capable as children to become sociopaths if raised under certain conditions.

However none of that means we should act in a sociopathic manner in order to be "whole." That's just pure nonsense that you made up. There is no objective good that comes from sociopathic behavior, and thus choosing to act on such things merely due to our early childhood potential of becoming sociopaths is complete and utter lunacy.

Also, once you have grown a certain degree of empathy, it's straight-up impossible to choose to act against it. So no, if you genuinely have empathy for other people you can't just choose to shut it off to "experiment" for a while. People who can do that never had any real empathy there to begin with.

My point in this being, that while I may have had the potential in my early childhood development to become a sociopath later in life, that potential is completely gone now. I can't just revert back to the blank slate I was as a kid and learn the complete opposite thing from my upbringing. While there is indeed a certain degree of neuroplasticity, there are certain psychological aspects of us all that stay with us for the rest of our lives. The wet cement of my psyche has fully hardened to shape certain aspects of my complete being right now, and is therefore impossible for me to un-harden at this point in time. The same is true for you.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

Right now most of reality you will never experience. Some of it your life circumstances prevent you from knowing, some is off limits as its illegal, much of it you prevent yourself from knowing. That is because you absolutely refuse to even explore what is hidden away in your shadow.

I have no desire to learn what it's like to do objectively evil **** to people. I don't want to learn what it's like to be a pedophile or rapist. I don't want to know what it's like to be a serial killer. I don't want to know what it's like to be a terrorist. You're acting as if I'm missing out on some great life experiences here. There is absolutely nothing of value that I could learn from doing any of those things, and there's absolutely nothing good that could come from me doing those things either. Everything that I or anyone else needs to know about such things could be easily learned by merely studying these behaviors from other people.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

All people have absolute darkness hidden in their shadows. Let me ask you:

1. Would you kill to protect your children?

2. How many people would you be prepared to kill to protect your children?

3. Would you steal if the alternative was starving to death?

4. Would you mug, thieve, and burgle, to feed your kids?

5. If an asteroid was about to impact the Earth and you had to lie, cheat, and manipulate to get into the survival bunker would you?

6. How about to get your kids in?

I could spend all day inventing the most elaborate of scenarios until I have got you to admit that under the right circumstances you would kill. Not just one person, not just millions, but billions.

Admit it. You could kill, thieve, mug, lie, cheat, and manipulate. All that needs to happen is for the right set of circumstances to come along. You monster! You absolute monster! I would hate to be stranded on a boat with you in the middle of the pacific for 6 weeks. You would eat me

Yes to all of that. Absolutely.

The difference here being that neither of us are currently in any of those scenarios atm, and what you're suggesting is that we currently act in such a way when such behaviors are completely unwarranted.

Of course we could all potentially find a higher moral purpose for such behaviors under the right scenarios, but we aren't in those scenarios at the moment, thus there's no reason to behave that way at all.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

Now we have got that out the way are you going to admit that you have a shadow or continue to lie to yourself to protect your ego? Admitting you have one doesnt mean you are going to run out and commit a multitude of criminal offences. It doesnt make you worse than anybody else as we all have one.

Of course I have a few dark / negative impulses from time to time. Though that doesn't mean I should act on them, nor do I really want to. I guess it sort of depends on what you mean by "your inner shadow" or whatever. For me, they're just simple reflexes if anything. Like if someone says something to tick me off, I might have the impulse to yell at them and cuss them out. Or if someone cuts me off in traffic my instict is to flip the off and b**** about it. Simple stuff like that.

But deep dpwn, I genuinely only desire to do good to people, and I genuinely don't want to hurt anyone else. Therefore I have absolutely no desire to willingly engage in destructive behaviors that would harm other people. I genuinely sincerely don't want to hurt anyone physically or emotionally. I have basic human empathy and compassion for other people. I couldn't bring myself to knowingly hurt another person if I tried.

The only time I can think of that might be an exception to that is if I see some sort of injustice happening against innocent people. Then I get angry, and I fight back. But ultimately that's for the greater good and wellbeing of innocent people.

What you're talking about here is knowingly and in full awareness of the harm that it causes, intentionally doing bad things to hurt other people for the mere sake of experiencing it in an effort to be "whole." That is fundamentally a different thing from whatever dark impulses I have, so if that's what you're suggesting I have in me, then I'm sorry but you presume too much. That that kind of thing just doesn't exist in me at all.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

There is a lot of stuff in your shadow for which there is no penalty for exploring. Maybe you are a closet homosexual?

Odd that you consider homosexuality to be a think that exists in our "dark side," but anyway...

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

You definitely have the means to bully people and be mean to them. You could engage in some really bizarre behaviour convincing people you are an eccentric. You could do 1001 things in your life and integrate a huge amount of your shadow into your conscious mind.

I could, but I don't want to. I have no desire to. I have no need to. I nor the world would benefit from me doing so. Therefore I don't.

Why do you desire to do so? That's the better question here.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

What I am looking for is changes to how reality unfolds by integrating various aspects of my shadow with my consciousness. I am looking for hidden links structuring reality. That might not be of interest to you, but it is to me. 

What you're actually doing is looking for some sort of justification to behave badly towards other people without consequence. No "ifs," "ands," or "buts" about it.

4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

Is your ego now going to go on the offensive, character assassinating me again because you cannot admit to yourself your true nature?

Again, I know already that deep down I have absolutely nodesire to harm innocent people. If you're assuming that I do, then you assume too much.

And this isn't me claiming to be some moral paragon, I just have a bare basic capacity for human empathy that prevents me from being able to or even desiring to hurt other innocent people. The same level of empathy that I'd say a strong 90 some percent of the people here on this forum are capable of.

When I ask you why you have the desire to harm other people, and call that psychopathic behavior, that isn't me just trying to assassinate your character here. You're doing that all on your own.

Now I hope you take my advice here from the beginning of this long post, learn from this, and admit you were wrong. I'd also advise you to seek professional help if you genuinely have the desire to hurt people.

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RabidMongoose

For the past week I have been subtly pressing peoples buttons to bully them.

From the work place, to the barber shop, to the bus, to the high street. I have been mean to lots of people, but the question is what have I found?

I have found an odd effect. Obviously some of the people I have been mean too have been mean back. Thats expected. Lets put everyone I was mean too aside, and focus on random members of the public I had never met before and didnt say anything too.

A huge number of them have been mean to me by subtly pressing my buttons. Its freaky weird. Even worse when it comes to synchronicities or coincidences I prepared some sentences I was going to use to subtly press peoples buttons. And they have crept up in other peoples random conversations.

As if God is saying you naughty boy, this is what you have done, this is what you have thought, you are now getting both back. Amazing. I maintain my position that reality has structure buried within it and a lot of posters here dont have a clue what they are going on about.

I expected all instances of bullying to vanish with this experiment, but it got worse. But with insights I have gained I think its not abusing other people that I need to integrate from my shadow. I now think its jealousy. So next week I will be running jealously experiments where I allow myself to be jealous of other people.

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Aquila King
18 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

I maintain my position

Pretty much sums it up.

If just you want to go on being a dick to people while calling it an "experiment" then be my guest. If you won't listen to words of reason then I hope your little "experiments" teach you what's already completely obvious to the rest of us.

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For me hapiness, is not being constantly sad, sadness is part of life but F me I only had 1 moment of happyness that lasted 1m in the last 5 years, this wonderful beautiful woman looked me in the eyes and was very interested in me, I was closed to depression, I felt a rush in my brain far better than any orgasm, literally I felt a wave of hapiness going thru my brain, had never felt it before of after. Dopamine, Oxytocin, Serotonin and Endorphins, it was one of these, wonder which....


Luckly this week I met a woman who seems to "hang out" with me, 5 years of "drought" takes a serious toll on a person self esteem.

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My developing hypothesis:

Humans beings are quite set in their personality traits. So if someone is mean to other people they have generally always been mean. If they are nice to people, they have generally always been nice. As people dont voluntarily switch from one to the other they are largely unaware that their attitude towards others affects reality via hidden non-local forces.

Love thy neighbour brings on a new meaning.

 

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23 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

My developing hypothesis:

Humans beings are quite set in their personality traits. So if someone is mean to other people they have generally always been mean. If they are nice to people, they have generally always been nice. As people dont voluntarily switch from one to the other they are largely unaware that their attitude towards others affects reality via hidden non-local forces.

Love thy neighbour brings on a new meaning.

Stop pretending to be a psychologist conducting psychiatric research. You're not. You're like a snake oil salesman impersonating a doctor, or a flat earther conducting "experiments" to study the flatness of the earth. Your hypotheses and experiments here are utterly worthless. 

If you want to study the field of human psychology then so be it. Go to school, get a major and/or PhD in psychology / psychiatry / cognitive neuroscience / etc, then use your credentials to fund a research study group. Otherwise you're just some random dillweed online spouting pseudoscientific nonsense he knows nothing about.

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On 9/26/2019 at 12:41 PM, RabidMongoose said:

Lets put everyone I was mean too aside, and focus on random members of the public I had never met before and didnt say anything too.

A huge number of them have been mean to me by subtly pressing my buttons. Its freaky weird.

Hi RapidMongoose

Just wondering how random unknown people can press your buttons if you never had words with them and could you elaborate on huge number. To me when I read this I had to wonder if you did not project on them that they were being mean to you.

Based on some of your comments I do not think that you understand that many of us do recognize that we can be potentially dangerous individuals but do not see the need to be and live according to socially productive norms.

I see that this is just a game for you as you have admitted you just did it to see what reaction you would get and push for the one you were looking for, but is it really a game or are you singing a new song now to redirect attention?

jmccr8

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On 9/26/2019 at 3:33 PM, RabidMongoose said:

My developing hypothesis:

Humans beings are quite set in their personality traits. So if someone is mean to other people they have generally always been mean. If they are nice to people, they have generally always been nice. As people dont voluntarily switch from one to the other they are largely unaware that their attitude towards others affects reality via hidden non-local forces.

Love thy neighbour brings on a new meaning.

 

Do you even know what real human interaction is? It's a cause and effect exchange. You treat people like trash, they won't like it, they push back. You treat them decent/well, they are more responsive. One thing is that you don't know what they know. In their mind you are the jerk, they don't like you, and create a negative association with you. If you change they might be cautious at first and then change their attitude towards you, but you being you, I doubt that. 

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1 hour ago, XenoFish said:

Do you even know what real human interaction is? It's a cause and effect exchange. You treat people like trash, they won't like it, they push back. You treat them decent/well, they are more responsive. One thing is that you don't know what they know. In their mind you are the jerk, they don't like you, and create a negative association with you. If you change they might be cautious at first and then change their attitude towards you, but you being you, I doubt that. 

Of course I know what normal interactions are.

The question for you is why is my experiment touching such a raw nerve with you causing you to explode like that? Your response is about you, not me. Take your issues someone elsewhere please.

Thank you for your compliance.

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1 minute ago, RabidMongoose said:

Of course I know what normal interactions are.

The question for you is why is my experiment touching such a raw nerve with you causing you to explode like that? Your response is about you, not me. Take your issues someone elsewhere please.

Hi RapidMongoose

So you see Xeno's response as an explosion, that is interesting as I did not see it in that way myself,could you clarify why you see it that way?

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