+Desertrat56 Posted July 23, 2019 #101 Share Posted July 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Habitat said: I am amazed that any country ever signed up to an 8-year maximum tenure, it seems that even the Second Coming would run out of puff after eight years, under that thinking. Crazy. Originally Congress and the senate had term limits and the president didn't. All of those jobs were supposed to be civic duty for 2 years then go home to your real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 24, 2019 #102 Share Posted July 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, Hawken said: Presidents come and go. 8 years max. However congress members on both parties been their as much as 40 years. I say Term Limits for them also. Not too late to the party to drop some wisdom anyway. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted July 24, 2019 #103 Share Posted July 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Originally Congress and the senate had term limits and the president didn't. All of those jobs were supposed to be civic duty for 2 years then go home to your real life. I was under the impression that FDR was the reason for the change, the fear being that a super popular president could see one political party being excluded from the presidency indefinitely, as if that was something unhealthy, but does not make sense in a situation where the will of the people should decide, not some arbitrary rule that allows parties to have their "turn" at regular intervals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 24, 2019 #104 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Habitat said: I was under the impression that FDR was the reason for the change, the fear being that a super popular president could see one political party being excluded from the presidency indefinitely, as if that was something unhealthy, but does not make sense in a situation where the will of the people should decide, not some arbitrary rule that allows parties to have their "turn" at regular intervals. FDR was only the reason for the presidential change. Greed was the reason for Congress and Senate removing their term limits and giving themselves unreasonable raises and benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLingo Posted July 24, 2019 #105 Share Posted July 24, 2019 23 hours ago, the13bats said: do Australians like trump? I would think maybe a 1/4 and those guys are mainly the pauline hanson type followers.. the next half are more like.. they elected this guy?... the last 1/4 think along the lines of.. its not just the US that is F@#Ked but the rest of the world if he is elected again.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 24, 2019 Author #106 Share Posted July 24, 2019 21 hours ago, the13bats said: so you say the media dumps on Melania if you feel like it could you post your top 5 no top 3 dumps on her for me, i believe you i just wanna see them. also can you tell me if you consider it dumping on her when her husband trump cheated on her with 2 porn industry women, it had to be very humiliating to Melania or are they open that way or something because she sure doesnt seem into him. i posted the above and get crickets and tumbleweeds...hum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted July 24, 2019 #107 Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 hours ago, spartan max2 said: I gave up on the debt. Every president in my lifetime has just increased it. At a faster and faster rate it seems lol. No president will be able to fix it. It would require too much cuts and too much taxes. The debt isn't an accident. It's a designed measure to position a global government takeover once the world economy collapses as it inevitably will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 24, 2019 #108 Share Posted July 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, the13bats said: i posted the above and get crickets and tumbleweeds...hum. Well, I don't know quotes, but I did pick up that the press was down on her for wearing the jacket that said "I really don't care do you" when she went to visit the border. That was some sort of statement. Also she has gotten flack for her anti-bullying campaign when her hubby is the #1 bully. I don't think she has a lot of influence over him. The press was not too complimentary of her trip to Africa, fashionably dressed as the white memsaab. Yet she hasn't never been criticized for her looks, or the way she talks, nor has she been compared to a lower primate. Nobody has made much press of the fact that her parents are a prime example of chain immigration which this administration is much opposed to for non Trump related people. From her frequent public expression, I believe the poor lady wishes she was anywhere else but the White House. It is not what she signed up for, and I am sure it is not easy or often even enjoyable for her. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 24, 2019 #109 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, and then said: The debt isn't an accident. It's a designed measure to position a global government takeover once the world economy collapses as it inevitably will do. First time I have heard that. I thought it was flagrant overspending and the need to bribe voters with bright shinys that we can't pay for. Who is designing it then, our Congress and our President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted July 24, 2019 #110 Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: First time I have heard that. I thought it was flagrant overspending and the need to bribe voters with bright shinys that we can't pay for. Who is designing it then, our Congress and our President? Deep state/illuminati/globalists/the gays. Take your pick. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 24, 2019 Author #111 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Well, I don't know quotes, but I did pick up that the press was down on her for wearing the jacket that said "I really don't care do you" when she went to visit the border. That was some sort of statement. Also she has gotten flack for her anti-bullying campaign when her hubby is the #1 bully. I don't think she has a lot of influence over him. The press was not too complimentary of her trip to Africa, fashionably dressed as the white memsaab. Yet she hasn't never been criticized for her looks, or the way she talks, nor has she been compared to a lower primate. Nobody has made much press of the fact that her parents are a prime example of chain immigration which this administration is much opposed to for non Trump related people. From her frequent public expression, I believe the poor lady wishes she was anywhere else but the White House. It is not what she signed up for, and I am sure it is not easy or often even enjoyable for her. my crickets and tumbleweeds remark was because my question wasnt answered, i compare Melania to jackie o in some ways, both were married to playboys but dons games is in melanias face far more. sure, her "dont care" jacket got flack and i think her message wasnt that she didnt care about the boarder which she likely doesnt she likely was sending a message to donny, sure the wife of a huge bully will get flack for trying to play anti bully yet married to a big one, its hypocritical the lady is rich, most of us could live the rest of our lives as we now live just for what her wedding ring cost, so i have no idea how she was suppose to dress to go to Africa but no matter what she wore someone would have critiqued it. i would suspect any flack or dumped on she gets is unfair collateral damage from people wanting to poke at don. i think the marrage is just for show. michelle had been dumped on worse and we all know it. Edited July 24, 2019 by the13bats typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted July 24, 2019 #112 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, and then said: The debt isn't an accident. It's a designed measure to position a global government takeover once the world economy collapses as it inevitably will do. This is the sort of conspiracy theory that was really popular back in the late 2000s. I even ascribed to similar opinions on debt, back in the day. Anyone with no understanding of the modern world can easily be led down that path. The truth is that debt is the thing that allows for out entire consumer society to function. It's what has led to this unprecedented age of relative prosperity when the traditional industrial society has all but died. It has nothing to do with some global conspiracy to take over governments - that's an extremely uninformed and almost childish opinion on the purpose of debt. The world might be headed towards some form of global government (though likely not for a very long time and not in the manner in which conspiracy theorists think), for the simple reason that the world is now so connected and countries so entangled that it simply makes sense. But it will be a natural progression and not some grand conspiracy theory envisioned and carried out by shadowy organisations hellbent on world domination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted July 24, 2019 #113 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Tatetopa said: Well, I don't know quotes, but I did pick up that the press was down on her for wearing the jacket that said "I really don't care do you" when she went to visit the border. That was some sort of statement. Also she has gotten flack for her anti-bullying campaign when her hubby is the #1 bully. I don't think she has a lot of influence over him. The press was not too complimentary of her trip to Africa, fashionably dressed as the white memsaab. Yet she hasn't never been criticized for her looks, or the way she talks, nor has she been compared to a lower primate. Nobody has made much press of the fact that her parents are a prime example of chain immigration which this administration is much opposed to for non Trump related people. From her frequent public expression, I believe the poor lady wishes she was anywhere else but the White House. It is not what she signed up for, and I am sure it is not easy or often even enjoyable for her. Poor Michelle still has to deal with people claiming she's actually a man... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted July 24, 2019 #114 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, ExpandMyMind said: This is the sort of conspiracy theory that was really popular back in the late 2000s. I even ascribed to similar opinions on debt, back in the day. Anyone with no understanding of the modern world can easily be led down that path. The truth is that debt is the thing that allows for out entire consumer society to function. It's what has led to this unprecedented age of relative prosperity when the traditional industrial society has all but died. It has nothing to do with some global conspiracy to take over governments - that's an extremely uninformed and almost childish opinion on the purpose of debt. The world might be headed towards some form of global government (though likely not for a very long time and not in the manner in which conspiracy theorists think), for the simple reason that the world is now so connected and countries so entangled that it simply makes sense. But it will be a natural progression and not some grand conspiracy theory envisioned and carried out by shadowy organisations hellbent on world domination. I'm in favor of a One World Government. Bring on the nWo! Hulk Hogan will bring us ALL to prosperity! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 24, 2019 #115 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Robotic Jew said: I'm in favor of a One World Government. Bring on the nWo! Hulk Hogan will bring us ALL to prosperity! I would too, ruled by Britain lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 24, 2019 #116 Share Posted July 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said: I would too, ruled by Britain lol. And most of us U.S. citizens would want it ruled by the U.S. I would prefer Canada be the leader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 24, 2019 #117 Share Posted July 24, 2019 11 hours ago, the13bats said: my crickets and tumbleweeds remark was because my question wasnt answered, i compare Melania to jackie o in some ways, both were married to playboys but dons games is in melanias face far more. sure, her "dont care" jacket got flack and i think her message wasnt that she didnt care about the boarder which she likely doesnt she likely was sending a message to donny, sure the wife of a huge bully will get flack for trying to play anti bully yet married to a big one, its hypocritical the lady is rich, most of us could live the rest of our lives as we now live just for what her wedding ring cost, so i have no idea how she was suppose to dress to go to Africa but no matter what she wore someone would have critiqued it. i would suspect any flack or dumped on she gets is unfair collateral damage from people wanting to poke at don. i think the marrage is just for show. michelle had been dumped on worse and we all know it. I agree. I just thought you deserved a better answer than crickets and tumbleweeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted July 24, 2019 #118 Share Posted July 24, 2019 There was that time when the unheard of Bill Clinton, a little known man from Podunk Arkansas, was at the bottom of a large pack of candidates trying to become democrat nominee to face off with incumbent George Bush Sr. Then, he took off like a rocket ship. Ditto for Obama who trailed HRC badly. He too experienced that never-to-look-back surge and beat Hilary easily. Right now, I see no one that capable except for Mayor Pete. He hasn't surged but he might. Other than that, I see no one capable of toppling Trump. It's still early but... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted July 24, 2019 #119 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: There was that time when the unheard of Bill Clinton, a little known man from Podunk Arkansas, was at the bottom of a large pack of candidates trying to become democrat nominee to face off with incumbent George Bush Sr. Then, he took off like a rocket ship. Ditto for Obama who trailed HRC badly. He too experienced that never-to-look-back surge and beat Hilary easily. Right now, I see no one that capable except for Mayor Pete. He hasn't surged but he might. Other than that, I see no one capable of toppling Trump. It's still early but... Funny thing is though,back in those days of yore (92) candidates actually still tried to sepperate themselves from each other... This batch have all latched themselves to and outright stolen Bernies stances,only difference being is they speak the words of "but i'm not a socialist" to seperate themselves lol Biden i believe has the most legit chance to defeat Trump,but he's gotta lot of skeletons hidden in plain sight... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 24, 2019 Author #120 Share Posted July 24, 2019 okay, remember im ignorant to politics however, i think biden if hes the dem people think might could beat trump ( or any dem for that matter ) will have to work 10xs harder to beat trump than trump has to work to beat him, i believe trump has lost some of his 2016 supporters likely not enough to matter and a lot of people who dont even necessarily like trump will vote for him as a lessor of two evils, the first 4 years were okay 4 more cant hurt, people like drama and trump is king drama llama. i guess im saying if trump wins its not because everyone loves him and if he loses its because he lost too many who did worship him. time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted July 24, 2019 #121 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) If the Democrats boldly push a "Get Trump" candidate like Biden, Harris, Booker, etc.. prepare to lose. You push a respectable candidate that is admired by both parties like Tulsi Gabbard. You stand a chance and would even get my vote, and Trump would go away. Edited July 24, 2019 by South Alabam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 24, 2019 #122 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Desertrat56 said: And most of us U.S. citizens would want it ruled by the U.S. I would prefer Canada be the leader. More likely, it will be Google or Huawei. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 24, 2019 #123 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: More likely, it will be Google or Huawei. 20 minutes into the future... Max Headroom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted July 25, 2019 #124 Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 24/07/2019 at 4:23 PM, Imaginarynumber1 said: Deep state/illuminati/globalists/the gays. Take your pick. Nah. The plan isn’t fabulous enough to be part of the Gay Agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 25, 2019 #125 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I wonder what weight health care, the opium epidemic, crumbling infrastructure, and the environment will have on the election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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