Gwynbleidd Posted August 3, 2019 #101 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Captain Risky said: Did Trump benefit from asking Russia to release emails? Trump doesn't seem to think so even though American intelligence believes that Russia interfered BUT still Trump doesn't believe that Russia interfered even though he benefited. Thanks Risky! Do you have a link for this information please so I can read through it? Seeing a video where Trump is being a loudmouth and attacking Hillary isn't evidence of anything. I'd like to see any sort of documentation. Anything official that's come out? I've seen people post how he's so corrupt and under investigation for so many crimes at present, yet I never see links backing this up. Please, I'm begging you, anyone really, provide some so I can see them for myself. It's all fair and well to assume these things, but when someone asks for proof, then people should in effect, be able to back themselves up with some sort of information and I'm not talking about him speaking in code and being a loudmouth on some stage in a youtube video either. I'm not knocking you for your beliefs, so please don't be offended. I'm simply asking you or anyone for reputable links, that will help me to see what you're seeing. Because right now, I cannot see this as there is nothing to back up your claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #102 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, pixiii said: Thanks Risky! Do you have a link for this information please so I can read through it? Seeing a video where Trump is being a loudmouth and attacking Hillary isn't evidence of anything. I'd like to see any sort of documentation. Anything official that's come out? I've seen people post how he's so corrupt and under investigation for so many crimes at present, yet I never see links backing this up. Please, I'm begging you, anyone really, provide some so I can see them for myself. It's all fair and well to assume these things, but when someone asks for proof, then people should in effect, be able to back themselves up with some sort of information and I'm not talking about him speaking in code and being a loudmouth on some stage in a youtube video either. I'm not knocking you for your beliefs, so please don't be offended. I'm simply asking you or anyone for reputable links, that will help me to see what you're seeing. Because right now, I cannot see this as there is nothing to back up your claims. well what type of evidence would you like to see? Maybe hand written letter signed by Trump an Putin. You don't need that much to put someone away for murder, hell you don't even need a body. There is motive, instruction and benefit. At the very least Trump is a fool for letting himself be in this position and at worse bought and sold Russian agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwynbleidd Posted August 3, 2019 #103 Share Posted August 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, susieice said: Why all the hesitation and playing politics? Who would wait for three years if someone was committing so many serious crimes and still be heehawing? They're pulling everyone in front of committees, throwing accusations and going on and on and on. My Husband (the American) has a message for you Susie - he said they're not heehawing...he said it's #orangemanbad I'm sorry, he made me do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #104 Share Posted August 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, susieice said: Why all the hesitation and playing politics? Who would wait for three years if someone was committing so many serious crimes and still be heehawing? They're pulling everyone in front of committees, throwing accusations and going on and on and on. Thats really not fair, susieice. There are clear links between Trumps people and ex Russian agents. So Trump used buffers. Does that make him innocent or just cleaver? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwynbleidd Posted August 3, 2019 #105 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: well what type of evidence would you like to see? Maybe hand written letter signed by Trump an Putin. You don't need that much to put someone away for murder, hell you don't even need a body. There is motive, instruction and benefit. At the very least Trump is a fool for letting himself be in this position and at worse bought and sold Russian agent. Anything that you have been reading where it clearly states he's being investigated and it's not an opinion piece and it's not heresay. I'm at the stage now, where I don't even care if it's CNN because it's been so hard to get someone to actually come up with some sort of proof/evidence to back their claims up. That's all I'm asking Risky, that's all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #106 Share Posted August 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Did Trump benefit from asking Russia to release emails? Trump doesn't seem to think so even though American intelligence believes that Russia interfered BUT still Trump doesn't believe that Russia interfered even though he benefited. Did American intelligence say Russia interfered? And that they did it with Trump's blessing? They're serious charges. So press them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #107 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, pixiii said: Anything that you have been reading where it clearly states he's being investigated and it's not an opinion piece and it's not heresay. I'm at the stage now, where I don't even care if it's CNN because it's been so hard to get someone to actually come up with some sort of proof/evidence to back their claims up. That's all I'm asking Risky, that's all. Again what proof? Did Trump's people meet with Russian agents? Did Trump tell his people to lie and impede the investigations? Did Trump call openly for Russian interference? these are all facts. I really don't know what more proof you need. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #108 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Thats really not fair, susieice. There are clear links between Trumps people and ex Russian agents. So Trump used buffers. Does that make him innocent or just cleaver? Clear links? If the man is guilty he's guilty. If he isn't he isn't. Won't know until he's put before the House and Senate and there's been enough investigating to keep making accusations so charge him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #109 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Captain Risky said: Again what proof? Did Trump's people meet with Russian agents? Did Trump tell his people to lie and impede the investigations? Did Trump call openly for Russian interference? these are all facts. I really don't know what more proof you need. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials All facts. So bring him up on charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #110 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, susieice said: Did American intelligence say Russia interfered? And that they did it with Trump's blessing? They're serious charges. So press them. Sure they did. Russia interfered in the last American election. are you disputing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #111 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, susieice said: All facts. So bring him up on charges. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #112 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Sure they did. Russia interfered in the last American election. are you disputing this? No. Now press the charges! Pelosi has lost her hold on the House Democrats anyway so let's get a move on if the man is guilty. Edited August 3, 2019 by susieice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #113 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, susieice said: No. Now press the charges! For what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #114 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Captain Risky said: For what? What do you mean for what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwynbleidd Posted August 3, 2019 #115 Share Posted August 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Again what proof? Did Trump's people meet with Russian agents? Did Trump tell his people to lie and impede the investigations? Did Trump call openly for Russian interference? these are all facts. I really don't know what more proof you need. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials Reading now, thanks Risky! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #116 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, susieice said: No. Now press the charges! Pelosi has lost her hold on the House Democrats anyway so let's get a move on if the man is guilty. First off Trump needs to face charges of collusion. Mueller did not investigate or exonerate him on those charges. He needs to be impeached. https://theweek.com/speedreads/854606/mueller-reiterates-did-not-address-collusion-trump-tweets-no-collusion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #117 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Captain Risky said: First off Trump needs to face charges of collusion. Mueller did not investigate or exonerate him on those charges. He needs to be impeached. https://theweek.com/speedreads/854606/mueller-reiterates-did-not-address-collusion-trump-tweets-no-collusion Then impeach! File. Pelosi can't stop them anyway. She's lost the majority. Edited August 3, 2019 by susieice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwynbleidd Posted August 3, 2019 #118 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Captain Risky said: First off Trump needs to face charges of collusion. Mueller did not investigate or exonerate him on those charges. He needs to be impeached. https://theweek.com/speedreads/854606/mueller-reiterates-did-not-address-collusion-trump-tweets-no-collusion And correct me if I'm wrong, but Mueller cannot investigate or exonerate Trump re those charges because Trump is the President right? Edited August 3, 2019 by pixiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #119 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, susieice said: What do you mean for what? very simple. the only person that has exonerated Trump on collusion charges is Trump himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #120 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, pixiii said: And correct me if I'm wrong, but Mueller cannot investigate or exonerate Trump re those charges because Trump in the President right? Don't know. If you know something then do tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwynbleidd Posted August 3, 2019 #121 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Captain Risky said: Don't know. If you know something then do tell. LOL I don't know either! I'm not American, that's why I'm asking you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #122 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, pixiii said: LOL I don't know either! I'm not American, that's why I'm asking you guys You're very sneaky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #123 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, pixiii said: And correct me if I'm wrong, but Mueller cannot investigate or exonerate Trump re those charges because Trump is the President right? Mueller handed his report over to Congress. This whole Russian thing was investigated. That's why they questioned him in front of a committee. A President can be brought up before Congress for impeachment. Nixon chose to resign rather than be impeached. Clinton was impeached by the House but not by the Senate. He was acquitted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted August 3, 2019 #124 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Mr Mueller said he had not exonerated Mr Trump of obstruction of justice. The former FBI director spent two years probing alleged collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia, but did not establish collusion in a crime. He concluded that Russia had interfered in the election with the intention of benefitting Mr Trump's campaign. Mr Trump frequently criticised the special counsel investigation during its investigation, branding it a "witch hunt". Responding to Mr Mueller's testimony on Wednesday, he said: "This was a great day for me." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49100778 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 3, 2019 #125 Share Posted August 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: very simple. the only person that has exonerated Trump on collusion charges is Trump himself. So charge him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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