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32 minutes ago, skliss said:

So that's about 4 times you've refused  various people to show what you claimed....all it says is that you cant....thanks for the confirmation.

Nice physchobabble, no it doesnt mean i cant it means i heard the man spew hate so have others i dont need the denial of ( some ) trump worshippers shooting it down as fake news, 

here you go, .....its a great point,....

11 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

Two years in though its time to grow up and prioritize. If you truly believe that a racist POTUS is better than a democrat then just ****ing say so. This pretending , quibbling, denying and just outright lying about the reality however is debasing for those of us stuck listening to it and to those spewing it. 

i see some trump supporters basically admit  he spews hate not sure why some hold out.

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i see some trump haters spew hate and call president racist yet at every request to show how exactly he is racist they roll eyes, and never explain. 

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13 minutes ago, aztek said:

i see some trump haters spew hate and call president racist yet at every request to show how exactly he is racist they roll eyes, and never explain. 

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I get it you worship trump, more power to you,

Who here hates trump?

"eye roll" is a normal reaction some people have when they are asked or told something ridiculous, silly, stupid, not worth a reply.

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57 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Nice physchobabble, no it doesnt mean i cant it means i heard the man spew hate so have others i dont need the denial of ( some ) trump worshippers shooting it down as fake news,

One quote containing "hate". That's not asking too much.

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Just now, the13bats said:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I get it you worship trump, more power to you,

Who here hates trump?

"eye roll" is a normal reaction some people have when they are asked or told something ridiculous, silly, stupid, not worth a reply.

apparently you do not,  i do not worship him, i do not even like him as a person,  but i support his ideas, not even all of them, i just do not like the other side and their ideas much much more.  

 

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the13bats
8 minutes ago, skliss said:

One quote containing "hate". That's not asking too much.

:rolleyes:

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10 minutes ago, aztek said:

apparently you do not,  i do not worship him, i do not even like him as a person,  but i support his ideas, not even all of them, i just do not like the other side and their ideas much much more.  

 

I didnt support either side in 2016, lesser of 2 evils isnt an option for me.

you dont worship trump? my mistake then, so im intrigued, why dont you like him as a person?

 

 

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13 minutes ago, the13bats said:

 

you dont worship trump? my mistake then, so im intrigued, why dont you like him as a person?

 

i just do not.  but that may be his tv persona that i do not like, (just watch apprentice show)  i do not know him personally.  i do not need a lot to dislike a person. 

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34 minutes ago, aztek said:

i just do not.  but that may be his tv persona that i do not like, (just watch apprentice show)  i do not know him personally.  i do not need a lot to dislike a person. 

The only "shows" i saw him in was the wrestling stuff, he seemed a bit detached to me,

I was in the nightclub music biz booked a lot of bands and learned some put on a persona for the stage, and in some cases its not on purpose, i believe trump might be like that.

Ive been up too long babbling, just trying to say i dont hate the guy in fact hes done some really great stuff that doesnt get the deserved recognition, my only hang up is some of the dumb ass **** he says, i feel he would be better received if he didnt blurt some stupid stuff.

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Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest? (sometimes expressed as troublesome ormeddlesome priest) is an utterance attributed to Henry II of England, which led to the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170.

 

King Henry didn't say he hated Thomas Becket.  He did not command anyone to kill him.  Somehow the message got across.

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2 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest? (sometimes expressed as troublesome ormeddlesome priest) is an utterance attributed to Henry II of England, which led to the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170.

 

King Henry didn't say he hated Thomas Becket.  He did not command anyone to kill him.  Somehow the message got across.

I see where you're trying to go with this, but the king's word in the middle ages carried a lot more weight than any president's does today.  Plus, the only people who could have heard it were ones who already had close contact with the king and possibly a desire to stay in his good graces.  Nice try, but apples to oranges just the same.

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Hey I though of a title for this thread. Trump sucks and everyone who doesn't applaud that is a racist #567-2019

Pixxi, Tucker was right about Michael Avenetti, stormy' lawyer. The guy was/is a joke who deserved to be treated as such and Tucker seen right through him. Avenetti respected nothing and no one in life and is now on his way to a life sentence. 

In case you didn't know, Democrats are inherently racist. The were born as slavers who fought for slavery and became reborn under a white hood after they lost that war. They became cross burners and lynchers and fought against civil rights. After they lost that battle too they decided that if they can't beat them then they'll develope programs to keep minorities dependent and Democrats in power. They see the world through a racial prism and imply that minorities can't survive without them. How empowering, I mean how racist actually. What, they aren't smart and able enough to be independent and prosper? That is the democrat party platform but they wear a mask of outrage and virtue signaling normally accusing others of what they really are.

Also, Farmer is a self admitted racist who quit being racist 10 years ago :huh:. I'm not so sure that's true but he thinks he knows all the racist code words so he stands high on his pedestal these days to shout out his wisdom. He also likes to laugh at women getting egged in the face because she's wearing a maga hat or maybe getting pepper sprayed or kicked in the head. So I keep that in mind when he says he has a hard time showing any respect towards us. Otherwise, he's a nice guy and I don't hate him.

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Merc brings up a good point about "the language" of white supremacists". When did everyone become white supremacy linguistics experts? So many seem to know the language so well. My hunch is that is was a buzzword in the Democrats playbook. Just another in a long list. Earlier on in Trump's presidency they often said the things he says and does are "eerily reminiscent of Hitler" but for some reason that didn't stick too well. Gas Chambers and the open slaughter of millions of people just didn't manifest so cross that off for now and on to the next word and so on until something trends in Twitter. Suddenly white supremacy seemed to stick and it became the smear/talking point of the day and suddenly everyone is an expert on the language of white supremacist, a word I seldom heard in my life outside of a couple of niche movies or references to neo-nazi's and skinheads. How's that work?

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15 minutes ago, Big Jim said:

I see where you're trying to go with this, but the king's word in the middle ages carried a lot more weight than any president's does today.  Plus, the only people who could have heard it were ones who already had close contact with the king and possibly a desire to stay in his good graces.  Nice try, but apples to oranges just the same.

So you are at a rally of 25000 supporters and you say, "How are we going to stop these invaders?"  

Somebody in the crowd yells out , "Shoot them."

You laugh and shake your head and say, "Only in the Panhandle can you get away with that."   That is one way to do it.  Here is way another that cannot ever be mistaken for racist.   

 

John McCain famously shut down a racist voter at a 2008 campaign event, now   the video is going viral after Trump did nothing to stop racist chants at his rally

McCain cut her off, taking the microphone back from her, and he stoutly defended his Democratic opponent.

"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man, citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that's what this campaign's all about," McCain said.

 
 
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1 hour ago, F3SS said:

Suddenly white supremacy seemed to stick and it became the smear/talking point of the day and suddenly everyone is an expert on the language of white supremacist, a word I seldom heard in my life outside of a couple of niche movies or references to neo-nazi's and skinheads. How's that work?

Racist was losing its punch and people were starting to throw it in both directions, noting that blacks could be racists too.  White supremacist implies the same thing but can only be used against whites, making it a more finely targeted weapon.  I've been accused a couple times on here of using "the language of white supremacists"  but I never knew there was such a thing.  Apparently only liberals got a copy of the dictionary since they all seem to know this new language very well.

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Nadler, Waters, all the dem presidential candidates and Schiff spew more hatred than Trump daily and are using the power of their positions to try and overthrow a legally elected president.  Get off your sanctimonious high horses and admit that he is fighting in the mud pit and winning with the dirty fighters that populate the left and maybe we can talk about civility.  You've always silenced your enemies with your vitriol and Trump sends it right back at you tenfold and you boys and girls can't take it.  LMAO

Here is the rule, when fighting with animals, become the bigger, nastier animal and fight dirtier.  The right never did that and now we are.  You boys and girls on the left have never faced anyone who could withstand you tirades and wall to wall media hatred and are now losing your minds. Guess what, Trump's numbers are up and you are going to get crushed next November.  

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2 hours ago, F3SS said:

In case you didn't know, Democrats are inherently racist. The were born as slavers who fought for slavery and became reborn under a white hood after they lost that war. They became cross burners and lynchers and fought against civil rights. After they lost that battle too they decided that if they can't beat them then they'll develope programs to keep minorities dependent and Democrats in power. They see the world through a racial prism and imply that minorities can't survive without them. How empowering, I mean how racist actually. What, they aren't smart and able enough to be independent and prosper? That is the democrat party platform but they wear a mask of outrage and virtue signaling normally accusing others of what they really are.

Yeah buddy, we were all racists; there was no separation between Democrats and Republicans on that issue.  In fact, when I was a kid, the country was segregated, separate schools, water fountains, bathrooms, places on the bus all of that to keep Blacks and Whites from mixing.

 

Desegregation was a bone of contention and Southerners fought hard to maintain separation.  President Kennedy and Johnson (both Democrats) pushed desegregation which sort of left a lot of southern Democrats, Dixiecrats feeling abandoned.

Hence the Southern Strategy by the Republicans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right

The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[4] In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a national civil rights organization, for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.

So, did the Republicans stop being racists about 30 years after the Democrats?  I don't know.

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Big Jim said:

I see where you're trying to go with this, but the king's word in the middle ages carried a lot more weight than any president's does today.  Plus, the only people who could have heard it were ones who already had close contact with the king and possibly a desire to stay in his good graces.  Nice try, but apples to oranges just the same.

I dont see fruit there and its not as far off as you want to make it,

Ive heard trump basically say if this happened to him or that didnt happen to him his supporters would not stand for it and riot in the streets for him, chaos,

so even he believes hes got a lot of power.

 

5 hours ago, F3SS said:

Pixxi, Tucker was right about Michael Avenetti, stormy' lawyer. The guy was/is a joke who deserved to be treated as such and Tucker seen right through him. Avenetti respected nothing and no one in life and is now on his way to a life sentence. 

Yes, it would seem avenetti is pretty slimy, whats he getting life for?

Since you brought this up, do you believe trump cheated on his wife and had affairs with two different sex industry women, if yes, how do you feel about that, if no then why pay them "hush" money?

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12 hours ago, Merc14 said:

What language is that and how do you know what a white nationalist sounds like?

I took that as anyone that even remotely sounded like they agreed with Trump.  Apparently, it's not.  I still don't really understand how something like that can be said as it seems that you, others and I, were stereotyped as being a Trump Supporter simply because we may not agree.  Yeeeeeeeea.....so I don't know LOL 

And stereotyping isn't a good thing, yet here we see this hypocritical behaviour being exhibited below.

So we're told not to stereotype and yet it's ok for others to do so? 

Hypocrisy?  I don't get how one side cannot see the hypocrisy in what's being said.  

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11 hours ago, Merc14 said:

Examples farmer, post a few instead of the same old vitriol you constantly spew.  

 

8 hours ago, skliss said:

So that's about 4 times you've refused  various people to show what you claimed....all it says is that you cant....thanks for the confirmation.

No you simpletons we're simply not playing your games. There are literally hundreds of posts about his tweets regarding the freshmen congresswomen and thats just a single issue.  If you want to believe that the things hes said and done arent racist then go for it. Just dont be shocked when youre treated thusly.

But just for fun how about one Trump admitted to? Can you cult members admit he said something racist if he admits he said it?

Quote

Next in the Trump record on race came a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

O’Donnell’s report was shocking, but Trump did not contest it at the time. In 1997 he was interviewed for Playboy by author Mark Bowden and he confirmed that the O’Donnell book was “probably true.”

https://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

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5 minutes ago, pixiii said:

I took that as anyone that even remotely sounded like they agreed with Trump.  Apparently, it's not.  I must be a stupid outsider because I still don't understand it LOL 

Of course youre an outsider, like all areas of specialized expertise, we all are. There are experts in such things however who we can look to and learn from.

 

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44 minutes ago, pixiii said:

I took that as anyone that even remotely sounded like they agreed with Trump.  Apparently, it's not.  I still don't really understand how something like that can be said as it seems that you, others and I, were stereotyped as being a Trump Supporter simply because we may not agree.  Yeeeeeeeea.....so I don't know LOL 

And stereotyping isn't a good thing, yet here we see this hypocritical behaviour being exhibited below.

So we're told not to stereotype and yet it's ok for others to do so? 

Hypocrisy.  It just goes round and round and.....and endlessly round. :( 

why did that look like i said things i didnt say?

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30 minutes ago, the13bats said:

why did that look like i said things i didnt say?

LOL no! Not you Batty :lol:  

I was showing an example of how someone can say something and stereotype others, yet then accuse the others of stereotyping.   It's hypocrisy and repeats from both sides in a vicious circle. 

I've never seen a post of yours where you come across as offensive AT ALL.  You are much like I am in the way you treat all with the same respect, even though you and I differ somewhat in our beliefs, we don't take it as a personal insult.  But being labeled a white supremacist (if that's what the original post that Imaginary made, actually meant) is offensive to all who are stereotyped, not just me. Hopefully that makes sense, if not, just pm me and I'll happily explain. :) 

 

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4 minutes ago, pixiii said:

I've never seen a post of yours where you come across as offensive AT ALL. 

You should read his bigfoot posts :P

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22 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

You should read his bigfoot posts :P

Hey, i resemble that remark, however, i do respect others and their beliefs, but when it goes from me asking for proof they never have and attacking me for that, thats another story.

30 minutes ago, pixiii said:

LOL no! Not you Batty :lol:  

I was showing an example of how someone can say something and stereotype others, yet then accuse the others of stereotyping.   It's hypocrisy and repeats from both sides in a vicious circle. 

I've never seen a post of yours where you come across as offensive AT ALL.  You are much like I am in the way you treat all with the same respect, even though you and I differ somewhat in our beliefs, we don't take it as a personal insult.  But being labeled a white supremacist (if that's what the original post that Imaginary made, actually meant) is offensive to all who are stereotyped, not just me. Hopefully that makes sense, if not, just pm me and I'll happily explain. :) 

 

yeah, dawned on me you linked to replies posted in a thread i created,

my orginal posting of that script and my remarks was just in the vein of fun with a subject that isnt fun and is very serious and personal to people,

this isnt really rep vs dems i really do not believe most trump supported if he said go kill _______ would run out and do so a few nutballs needing a nudge might but they might do it anyway, seems by the increase in spree killings they are doing so.

my point is most even hard core racists do not act in killing sprees, and dont want that this isnt a issue of political party its a far worse issue than that so called immigration invasion, in case anyone hasnt noticed these nutballs take out people that do not fit into their molds of the "bad" ones, not that anyone deserves to die that way, if someone you knew or family, a loved one was a victim at el paso would it hit a deeper nerve then would you want action?

as countrymen we need to get together and figure out how this got so out of hand, stop blaming and start fixing, trump as potus should be leading that.

 

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