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'Brief radiation spike' in Russia rocket test

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pallidin
20 hours ago, toast said:

Cruise missiles with such a drive could go round the Earth a few times and change their flight direction as often as wanted before approaching their target. They could circle in remote areas near to the target and could even come home when an attack wasnt conducted. Thats a very alarming new military technology.

Yes. This type of cruise missile uses a "scoop" to gather ambient atmospheric gases and compounds (normal cruise missles also use a scoop)

It's then run through a turbine phase to compress and then present to the mini-nuclear reactor as a "heat-expansion propellant" Thus, the propellant supply is virtually unlimited, since the source is the ambient atmosphere.

The reactor is almost entirely unshielded for weight issues, which necessarily causes the powerful expansive gases to become radioactive before exit. Major environmental concerns.

Avionics (aviation-electronics) are very much affected by this non-shielded mini-reactor, even when the chips are "hardened", which significantly accounts for flight-test failure as the avionics quickly degrade during flight due to their proximity to the now-active mini-reactor.

Of course, military innovation will, in time, solve the problem of avionics radiation-degredation in this application scenario, so it's only a matter of time before a fully functional, fully reliable nuclear-powered cruise missile is developed.

Unfortunately.

 

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Cookie Monster
2 hours ago, pallidin said:

Yes. This type of cruise missile uses a "scoop" to gather ambient atmospheric gases and compounds (normal cruise missles also use a scoop)

It's then run through a turbine phase to compress and then present to the mini-nuclear reactor as a "heat-expansion propellant" Thus, the propellant supply is virtually unlimited, since the source is the ambient atmosphere.

The reactor is almost entirely unshielded for weight issues, which necessarily causes the powerful expansive gases to become radioactive before exit. Major environmental concerns.

Avionics (aviation-electronics) are very much affected by this non-shielded mini-reactor, even when the chips are "hardened", which significantly accounts for flight-test failure as the avionics quickly degrade during flight due to their proximity to the now-active mini-reactor.

Of course, military innovation will, in time, solve the problem of avionics radiation-degredation in this application scenario, so it's only a matter of time before a fully functional, fully reliable nuclear-powered cruise missile is developed.

Unfortunately.

 

If that is true then it sounds like a nuclear ramjet engine.

Thats a hyper-sonic cruise missile, probably over Mach 10.

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The US worked on this concept in the past, it was called Project Pluto!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto

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On 8/8/2019 at 11:22 AM, RabidMongoose said:

Radiation levels were 3 times higher than normal? If that is all the radiation then this is just media hysteria trying to attract viewers.

Go purchase a hi-lighter marker and draw a line on your hand. You just got more radiation from that than the people at the explosion side. You`d need it 1,000,000s of times higher to even make you start to get sick.

Imagine their dose when they FLY... ;) 

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On 8/15/2019 at 1:32 PM, pallidin said:

Of course, military innovation will, in time, solve the problem of avionics radiation-degredation in this application scenario, so it's only a matter of time before a fully functional, fully reliable nuclear-powered cruise missile is developed.

Unfortunately.

 

Yeah... and just imagine what problems the inevitable counter-measure will create.  :( 

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On 8/9/2019 at 4:31 PM, toast said:

I`m pretty sure your main and only source of information is the Watchtower.

He's absolutely correct.  To be a registered radiographer you need classes in X-Ray physics that are bare-bones basic and even I learned how overhyped radiation fears are.  You get a much higher dose of ionizing radiation from a cross-country flight than you do from a simple chest X-Ray, for example.  It's all about time, distance from the source and shielding.  The early researchers for Edison used the standard of a "skin reddening dose" to let them know when they'd had enough for the day or week :w00t:

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Noteverythingisaconspiracy
2 hours ago, 3.0 said:

The US worked on this concept in the past, it was called Project Pluto!

The US did indeed work on a project like this, but they soon came to the conclusion that ballistic missiles were a superior solution. I can't imagine why the Russians are working on a dangerous thing like this, when they allready have a large number of powerfull and virtually unstoppable ballistic missiles.

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Your link didn't work. This should do it.

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DarkHunter
6 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

The US did indeed work on a project like this, but they soon came to the conclusion that ballistic missiles were a superior solution. I can't imagine why the Russians are working on a dangerous thing like this, when they allready have a large number of powerfull and virtually unstoppable ballistic missiles.

Your link didn't work. This should do it.

Probably cause it's more propaganda then anything else, the Russian military had the people vote on what this new weapon system would be named.  The Russian military is barely even a shadow of the USSR military and Putin seems to like to make a big show of these new super/dooms day weapons even if they arent anywhere close to being viable or even really useful just to distract from problems back in Russia.

If they get the weapon to actually work though it could actually be rather useful.

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The Truman show
3 hours ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

The US did indeed work on a project like this, but they soon came to the conclusion that ballistic missiles were a superior solution. I can't imagine why the Russians are working on a dangerous thing like this, when they allready have a large number of powerfull and virtually unstoppable ballistic missiles.

Your link didn't work. This should do it.

Harder to detect and employ counter measures against. 

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Jon the frog

For a weapon that will be used when it will be total oblivion, spewing some radioactivity is not a big concern i guess....

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Eldorado

The Burevestnik is back in the news....

"Russian President Vladimir Putin has promised to press on with the development of a nuclear-powered rocket believed to have been at the centre of a deadly accident.

"Five engineers and two others died when a rocket engine exploded at a test range on the White Sea on 8 August.

"Defence experts think it was part of a nuclear-powered cruise missile.

""We will certainly be perfecting this weapon regardless of anything," Mr Putin told widows of the victims."

At the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50514306

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