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God this thread took me all day to catch up with. Agent orange is probably right. They wouldn't let him go on $100M bail or take his $77M mansion for collateral. He knew he was screwed. Screwed legally, screwed on the inside of the prison and screwed by the people he dealt with. He'd have been a prize bltch in prison by someone like his cellmate. That would be his only ticket to survival. Have you seen this guy? He probably scared Epstein to death, literally in fact, as he reminded him of his options in probably a less than friendly manner. As I just heard Joe Rogan saying, this guy is a caricature of the guy you do not want as a cell mate. A giant hulk, ex-cop murderer.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-former-cellmate-apparent-suicide-attempt

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On 8/13/2019 at 8:40 PM, DieChecker said:

This is Spin....

Trump knew the guy. Took one and ride. Epstein was a pedo... therefore Trump is a pedo? That is what is known as a Logical Fallacy. If such, then...

A year ago this guy I know had his apartment raided and was arrested for child prn. I knew him for about 10+ years. He was a maintenance guy for a company we do a lot of work for. He was nice, very friendly and we never suspected him of something like that but we all knew he loved porn. He was open about it. We all liked him and he was a staple of the company he worked for. We were all shocked but not surprised. As soon as we heard something went down we all just knew that's what it had to be. It was like a collective "'well Duh!". We knew he was a perv and always joked about what his apartment and internet history must look like. I never would shake his hand. There was a lot of hindsight and reflection. We realized some of the things he said in the past were more than just a sick sense of humor and I had clear recollection of a couple things he had said in passing that made me raise an eyebrow but nothing about what he was arrested for ever crossed my mind at the time. "Oh, that's just him" was the general harmless perception we all had. 

I'm a contractor and he worked for a company I do work for. We weren't exactly friends but if someone had asked me about him priorley I'd have said he's a great guy, nice guy. I had no reason to dog him. He played poker with us a couple times when we had an office near his property and he even did a side job with us once and I drove him home. Had either of us been a bigger deal in the world there could easily be pictures of us interacting, even hanging out suggesting we were closer than we actually were. Outside of work and a few fleeting social gatherings over many years the reality is that we were just two people who knew each other due to our jobs and we shared a few common aquaintances because of that. 

So, you never know what kind of relationship 2 people who know each other have. He got out of jail time but had big fines, 25 years probation, supervised visits with family children and registered sex offender status. When that was all said and done they fired him and he moved. Here's me thinking thank God I don't have to see him or deal with that awkward situation but that would be too easy. Eventually he ends up calling me looking for a roof repair on whatever house he moved into. I ignored it, and the next call and the texts. He wouldn't take a hint and finally a just coldly told him in a text to find someone else. 

So again, that my "you just never know" story.

 

On 8/13/2019 at 10:35 PM, skliss said:

There is that, but people like him also think they can get away with anything...in fact, if he had a whole bunch of blackmail material stashed away somewhere he may have thought he could use the fear of that stuff getting out as his insurance against staying in jail.

I think he was done for life wether he spilled the beans or not. I don't think he was being offered any deals due to his previous convictions and his unrepentant cavalier attitude.

 

On 8/13/2019 at 10:39 PM, susieice said:

Has anyone else noticed that every page is starting out marked as post #1? That's weird.

That's been driving me nuts. They're trying to keep us confused. The conspiracy deepens.

 

23 hours ago, LucidElement said:

And I still can’t believe they waited almost, if not, a month to raid Epstein’s Island house. Plenty of time for anyone to move stuff . However the fbi did recover 3 computers.

Same thing as the Vegas shooter , why wait 4 days until they raided his house?

Is it possible that lawyers can stall the ability to obtain a search warrant?

 

22 hours ago, susieice said:

I'm sure he used attorneys for all of his business transactions. He had some dirt on lawyers also, like Dershowitz. The girls testified against Dershowitz. I told Kismet in the beginning of the thread that Epstein never married. He never had kids which means no obvious heirs. I did find out later that he has a brother named Mark who has been involved in some business dealings with his brother but nothing regarding the girls. At least not yet. His estate is probably in the hands of an attorney or two. Both Deutsche Bank and JP Morgan Chase are searching through Epstein's finances now because they had a lot of business dealings with him. Numerous attorneys are also searching to see where all the money was coming from. That was all linked earlier in the thread if you want to look. 

Is it possible to hand an attorney your estate if the cause of death is suicide? I'm sure it is but seems to me that would be an easy way to conspire with someone to hide criminal evidence even if the commitment to do is killing yourself. So many shady things.

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1 hour ago, F3SS said:

Is it possible to hand an attorney your estate if the cause of death is suicide? I'm sure it is but seems to me that would be an easy way to conspire with someone to hide criminal evidence even if the commitment to do is killing yourself. So many shady things.

He's probably had his will written for a long time listing his heirs and what they get. Someone with that kind of money would keep the original in the possession of their attorney. A lot of regular folks do that. I would think his brother Mark would be named. I don't know who he would name as the executor. That could easily be one of his lawyers. His estate right now has no doubt been frozen and will remain that way.

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6 hours ago, ScotDeerie said:

HO-LEE!  that's very close to my home town and near me now. I know Manchester very well, I used to work there and use their beaches, too

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2 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

@susieice  Glad to see you are Ok. I worried about you when I heard "Philadelphia shooter". :tu:

Thanks. I'm about 60 miles directly north of Philadelphia and still very close to the Delaware River/New Jersey border. I keep saying how bad Philly is. This time they really made the news.

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And now all of a sudden , the HEADLINE SPOTLIGHT of CNN.com and Foxnews.com do not even speak of Epstein (At this moment)

‘I feel like they are trying to “ween” it down....       

a previous news article , just recently was talking about how the MCC prison boasts high suicide attempts and successes, looks like they may already be trying to slowly set up a a reason why Epstein “hung” himself..{Remember El Chapo spoke of horrendous conditions while being sentenced ) he deserves it. They all do... but it seems there is a commonality between the two in the conditions of the prison .

But here is the situation that’s on my mind .. WHERE IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL? And even further. Where are the women who were used in the sex ring? Only one has spoken up but that is no where near enough.... they could still fear for their life which I’m sure they do.

the only reason this conspiracy and case is larger then Larry Nasser is because Epstein knew all the dirt, and now his left hand who is GHISLAINE, Maxwell, is supposedly In the “Shadows”. ... 

 

p.s, Larry Nasser is as sick and twisted as they come, in my opinion he did Similar of not worse... but what upsets me is that all these women never come out until the time is right .. usually 10 to 20 plus years later..

look at Cosby ? Weinstein? Nasser? Sandusky (how we forgot him) & of course  Epstein , etc.... it’s only yearsssss after the bandwagon starts... it’s just mind boggling... if I was any part of those people’s agendas mentioned above , I’d MAKE sure everyone knew about it .. 

the only thing that separates Epstein from the rest including Weinstein, is that the ledger of political power and elites hung with Epstein ... and that’s in my opinion why he’s taking a dirt nap.

 

thanks for listening lol/

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They are speaking out Lucid. That's how New York pressed the charges. Some have begun filing against Epstein's estate. They are grown women now. The unsealed documents are from the case filed in Florida in 2008. The search is on for Ghislaine. It was posted earlier in the thread that she may be in Boston. The owner is in Europe and has asked police to check his house. She's going to make herself scarce.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/08/11/jeremy-epstein-victims-angry-want-accomplices-prosecuted/1981466001/

Friends are also saying she may also be in France where officials have already opened an investigation into Epstein. She was known to stay at Epstein's home in Paris and she also has a sister who lives in France. The US has said they will find her.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ghislaine-maxwell-where-in-the-world-is-jeffrey-epsteins-girlfriend

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2 hours ago, LucidElement said:

And now all of a sudden , the HEADLINE SPOTLIGHT of CNN.com and Foxnews.com do not even speak of Epstein (At this moment)

‘I feel like they are trying to “ween” it down....       

I actually felt it was a bit that way too - especially with that maniac gunman over in Philly getting all the attention for the past what.....10 hours?

Yay! The Autopsy results are in and you'd never believe it............/sarcasm of course :rolleyes: 

I've got some articles here to link to for those interested :)

Jeffrey Epstein’s last words to lawyer before his death

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/jeffrey-epsteins-last-words-to-lawyer-before-his-death/news-story/5792d28d0337e542b17b207274d62a83

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The convicted paedophile also told his lawyers that the neck injuries he suffered in an earlier incident at the Metropolitan Correctional Center were inflicted by his hulking, ex-cop cellmate, which led the lawyers to request that he be taken off a suicide watch, according to a source familiar with Epstein’s case.

Epstein’s optimism behind bars — expressed during daily visits with his lawyers that lasted up to 12 hours each — was so great that it struck some of those around him as “delusional,” the source said.

“He thought he was going to win the double-jeopardy motion” that his defence lawyers were planning to file in connection with his 2008 Florida prostitution conviction, the source said.

Autopsy finds Jeffrey Epstein suffered multiple breaks in his neck bones

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/autopsy-finds-jeffrey-epstein-suffered-multiple-breaks-in-his-neck-bones/news-story/b863750d73e1cd7045a1d11f9a5e68f4

Sorry Susie if I doubled up here with this link ^^ 

An autopsy carried out on the body of billionaire paedophile Jeffrey Epstein has now raised more questions than it has answered.

Epstein autopsy reveals broken bones, deepens questions about his death

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/epstein-autopsy-reveals-broken-bones-deepens-questions-about-his-death-20190815-p52hfy.html

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Veteran prosecutors and law enforcement officials were shocked that one of the most high-profile inmates in the country wasn't more carefully watched.

Barr said over the weekend he was "appalled" at serious "irregularities" in jail protocol, and later transferred the jail warden to another facility.

People familiar with the autopsy, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive stage of the investigation, said Sampson's office is seeking additional information on Epstein's condition in the hours before his death.

That could include video evidence of the jail hallways, which may establish whether anyone entered Epstein's cell during the night he died; results of a toxicology screening to determine if there was any unusual substance in his body; and interviews with guards and inmates who were near his cell.

 

Well how extraordinary!  Now who would've thought this would raise more questions than not.  I'll bet most people are sitting back and saying, I could've told you so. 

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12 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I don't assume it was murder Scot. It could be suicide but somebody accommodated him, that's all

This is my belief.  I believe he wanted out, quick and easy and someone obliged his desire.  It is totally unbelievable to imagine that BOTH guards napped at the same time, that the cams were nonfunctional AND his cellmate was mysteriously removed just before he hung himself.  The people are watching this and the onslaught against Trump and the fact that NO ONE is being held to account.  Lawlessness is the greatest danger our culture and nation face today.

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https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/news-of-jeffrey-epsteins-death-posted-on-4chan-before-it-became-public/news-story/f3902903eae948f0bd1e78d9d154e10b

Seems a Paramedic has most likely posted Epstein's death on 4chan prior to it becoming public.  Wow, they would've absolutely roasted the person in order to make themselves prove how they knew.  

News of Jeffrey Epstein’s death posted on 4chan before it became public

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Other 4chan users were quick to question the source of the information.

“You are either a cop or EMS,” replied a user.

Without revealing the source, the leaker denied the post was bogus.

“let’s just say I know. Don’t need a glowie coming to my crib,” the person wrote at 8.31am, referring to the practice of law enforcement agents creating bait posts, known on 4chan as “glowposting”.

O.o they knew chan-speak :o 

We might as well get our news from the Chans now, at least you'd know they fact check everything a million times and interrogate anyone who posts on there with info.  :rolleyes:

Warden removed after Epstein's death

https://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/jail-guards-suspended-after-epstein-death/news-story/b6d1f661d34915291d4fa4481b64f05f

US Attorney-General William Barr has ordered the removal of the warden at the federal jail where financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead after taking his own life while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.

The staff shakeup at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in lower Manhattan announced by the department included temporarily reassigning the warden to another post within the federal Bureau of Prisons, appointing a temporary replacement and placing two corrections officers assigned to Epstein's unit on administrative leave pending the outcome of investigations.

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Shrieking heard from Epstein's Cell the Morning he Died

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Court documents from 2011 reveal Epstein controlled several apartments in a building just blocks from his $77 million New York townhouse and allegedly housed "underage girls from all over the world."

Barr also issued a stern warning for anyone who may be evading justice: "Let me assure you that this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein. Any co-conspirators should not rest easy. The victims deserve justice and they will get it."

 

On the morning of Jeffrey Epstein's death there was shouting and shrieking from his jail cell, a source familiar with the situation told CBS News. Corrections officers attempted to revive him while saying "breathe, Epstein, breathe."

Makes me wonder now if it was Epstein shouting and shrieking for help perhaps.  Would've been panic I'd imagine on both his part and the guards.

Jeffrey Epstein 'bragged about having dirt on the rich and famous, including drug use and sexual tendencies - and was unapologetic about being a sex offender, which allowed people to confide in him with their own secrets'

Good gosh, the sheer amount of people who could potentially be involved in this is probably going to be like nothing we've ever witnessed before.  Who knows how huge this could be.   There would be so many people, the likes of which we probably haven't even heard of before, could be involved.  There would be so many people that would've been concerned he'd "reveal" their secrets he had on them.

Pedophile Island Wired For Blackmail

Have you guys seen the drone footage on the island with the FBI agents trying to cover up the window yet?  I haven't got a link for it right now, but it sure was funny.  Whoever is flying that drone isn't worried about losing it at all and they're pretty confident at flying it now.  The FBI personnel were trying to cover up the window with cardboard boxes and a big black sheet. I must admit, it was rather comical watching it. 

And back to Ghislaine again....what a gal! :rolleyes:  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler

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Another woman in Maxwell’s orbit says she used to joke about keeping herself rail thin because Epstein liked thin girls. Maxwell, whose father was Jewish, liked to shock. “She said, ‘I do it the way Nazis did it with the Jews, the Auschwitz diet. I just don’t eat.’”

And I thought my sense of humour was bad.  These people are abhorrent.

 

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Wow, I don't think any of us will be surprised now after all this weirdness has occurred, but I found this article showing a piece of artwork that a visitor took in Epstein's home.  I'm sorry but I had to have a chuckle.  At first I couldn't work out who it was.  But it certainly didn't look female, then I realised.  Hopefully you see the humour or perhaps quirkiness in it too. 

Peculiar piece of art in Epstein's Manhattan Townhouse

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The original painting, 'Parsing Bill,'  is by Australian-American artist Petrina Ryan-Kleid, although it is unclear if Epstein had bought the canvas or had a print mounted

And I didn't realise Epstein had met with Bill Gates a couple of times to discuss philanthropy.  If it ends up Gates is involved with anything perverted, I think I'd be genuinely shocked.  I'm surprised he even met with Epstein at all to be honest.  

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  • Microsoft founder Bill Gates spoke more than once with Jeffrey Epstein, the late financier accused of child sex trafficking, to discuss ways to increase philanthropic spending, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter.
  • Epstein’s discussions with Gates included at least one meeting, which took place in New York in 2013, while Gates was still Microsoft’s chairman, these people say.
  • The discussions occurred years after Epstein served a 13-month sentence for a charge of soliciting an underage prostitute.
  • A spokeswoman for Gates did not deny that the former Microsoft CEO met with Epstein. But she says that Epstein did not perform any official financial advisory work for Gates.

I'm VERY surprised he met Epstein even AFTER the underage sex offender charges....they met up in 2013.  If it had've been prior to the charges, I could've understood as Gates wouldn't have been any the wiser, but there's no excuse for 2013 is there.  Maybe I'm just being too black and white about this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/14/jeffrey-epstein-met-with-bill-gates-years-after-financier-served-jail-time.html

Wow, I just found this video with Rudy Giuliani explaining how it's impossible for Epstein to kill himself.  Great video interview.

Oh for those of you who are Joe Rogan fans and like a chat - here's the latest re Epstein (Warning: Swearing)

 

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4 hours ago, and then said:

This is my belief.  I believe he wanted out, quick and easy and someone obliged his desire.  It is totally unbelievable to imagine that BOTH guards napped at the same time, that the cams were nonfunctional AND his cellmate was mysteriously removed just before he hung himself.  The people are watching this and the onslaught against Trump and the fact that NO ONE is being held to account.  Lawlessness is the greatest danger our culture and nation face today.

The cameras were working fine. They just don't have cameras pointed INSIDE prison cells for obvious reasons. 

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10 hours ago, Robotic Jew said:

Come on. It probably only took 2 seconds before somebody on the right blamed the clintons.

Trump posted a tweet doing exactly that.

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1 hour ago, pixiii said:

I'm VERY surprised he met Epstein even AFTER the underage sex offender charges..

I'm quoting this just because it's a good starting point for something on my mind.  The impression I get from these people, the rich, famous, powerful and depraved, are that you only need one attribute for membership into the club and the requirement is that you overlook any sins committed by other members.   The agreement seems to be based on Bill Clinton's famous policy regarding gays in the military, "Don't ask, don't tell".  They trade their assets without questioning their origin.  Money for sex, sex for money, money for fame, etc.  I think that when they are together they really do think they are exempt from the rules and laws that govern us little people.  They have their own islands, their own jets and ships.  They're insulated and protected from what we consider the real world.  For them, their world is the real world and they run it.  So it doesn't surprise me that Gates would meet with Epstein, their common ground was great wealth.  Gates would overlook Epstein's perversion and Epstein would overlook Gate's nerdishness.  They had one connection but weren't really in each other's circle.  But the more requirements that you met the closer you were to being in the in group.  This is why Clinton's name comes up so much.  He and Epstein shared all four requirements.

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13 minutes ago, Big Jim said:

 [..]So it doesn't surprise me that Gates would meet with Epstein, their common ground was great wealth. [..]

Gates might have met him out of curiosity (I would have, too) but perhaps Epstein was looking to hook a BIG blackmail fish. Maybe under the cover of a consultation he spent the time fishing around in Gates’ mind for something he could lever into an endless cash flow. In this case, however, he failed. But if he had succeeded, he wouldn’t need anyone else to blackmail, probably ever.

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I just read about the broken bones. But apparently that bone dies break when a person is hung. What I am wondering is if it occurs if you are hung off a bunk bed, so you only fall a couple feet. Not sure what the distance spec is.

It dies seem there is more suspicious things coming out every day. What will be next? Guards and Epstein with cocaine in their systems? Signs of ether being used?

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6 hours ago, LucidElement said:

. but what upsets me is that all these women never come out until the time is right .. usually 10 to 20 plus years later..

Took me almost 50 years to start talking about my rape. Until it happens to YOU, don’t assume how you’d react.

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14 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I just read about the broken bones. But apparently that bone dies break when a person is hung. What I am wondering is if it occurs if you are hung off a bunk bed, so you only fall a couple feet. Not sure what the distance spec is.

It dies seem there is more suspicious things coming out every day. What will be next? Guards and Epstein with cocaine in their systems? Signs of ether being used?

The hyoid bone breaks in strangulation. Usually manual strangulation but perhaps ligature strangulation, too. Neck bones, however, are harder to break. Even professional hangings, with a good 6’+ drop from the platform, don’t always break the neck. This is very suspicious. I don’t understand how the coroner called his death “not suspicious” right after the autopsy.

 

Found this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-hyoid-bone-broken-neck/amp/

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1 hour ago, pixiii said:

Wow, I don't think any of us will be surprised now after all this weirdness has occurred, but I found this article showing a piece of artwork that a visitor took in Epstein's home.  I'm sorry but I had to have a chuckle.  At first I couldn't work out who it was.  But it certainly didn't look female, then I realised.  Hopefully you see the humour or perhaps quirkiness in it too. 

Peculiar piece of art in Epstein's Manhattan Townhouse

And I didn't realise Epstein had met with Bill Gates a couple of times to discuss philanthropy.  If it ends up Gates is involved with anything perverted, I think I'd be genuinely shocked.  I'm surprised he even met with Epstein at all to be honest.  

I'm VERY surprised he met Epstein even AFTER the underage sex offender charges....they met up in 2013.  If it had've been prior to the charges, I could've understood as Gates wouldn't have been any the wiser, but there's no excuse for 2013 is there.  Maybe I'm just being too black and white about this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/14/jeffrey-epstein-met-with-bill-gates-years-after-financier-served-jail-time.html

Wow, I just found this video with Rudy Giuliani explaining how it's impossible for Epstein to kill himself.  Great video interview.

Oh for those of you who are Joe Rogan fans and like a chat - here's the latest re Epstein (Warning: Swearing)

 

I imagine a lot of things are "mind-boggling" to ol' Rudy.

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