Epstein found Dead in Jail

[+susieice]

1 hour ago, LucidElement said:

I cant believe how insane this guy was and HOW secretive he was about all this. Not just him BUT EVERYONE involved, workers, staff, politicians, etc... i mean right now they are just focusing solely on Epstein but hoping im hoping it comes out about others who were involved. More importantly, and going back to the secretive aspect, I am curious to know how many individuals in this country are as twisted as him (with these secret organizations and having gatherings with elites like "eyes wide shut"). Granted we have school shooters and those types but im talking about one individual who was so high on the pedestal he was ghost to the public.  

I Definitely don't remember him on trial 10 years ago but i can only imagine how much he must have been freaking out on the inside hoping the public doesnt find out EVERYTHING that he had hidden (as we are finding out now). Previously when he was in prison, he had all the luxirues and still went to "work" and then was brought back to prison. This case, this individual, in my mind may be one of the most darkest and twisted men in the U.S if not the world.. I think he goes above and beyond Ted Bundy even.  it would be interesting to see how much more twisted he got since the time of his release 10 years ago until now. How his ideas enhanced and how much he added to the sex ring.

The number of people who are in the news everyday that are being arrested for pedophilia is mind staggering. Teachers, coaches, policemen, priests, scout leaders, online predators...young and old...and I doubt the US is alone in this. Makes me really worried about all the missing children we see in the news everyday.

That trial in 2008 had a lid slammed on it. Too many people in high places bringing pressure. Epstein had it real easy and still kept up his usual practices while he was out on work release. Apparently not much supervision was involved. He had thousands of victims. 

[Essan]

16 minutes ago, susieice said:

The number of people who are in the news everyday that are being arrested for pedophilia is mind staggering. Teachers, coaches, policemen, priests, scout leaders, online predators...young and old...and I doubt the US is alone in this. Makes me really worried about all the missing children we see in the news everyday.

That trial in 2008 had a lid slammed on it. Too many people in high places bringing pressure. Epstein had it real easy and still kept up his usual practices while he was out on work release. Apparently not much supervision was involved. He had thousands of victims. 

Most of them not paedophiles     

The problem is that the media (and public) don't know a sperm whale from a minnow.

[+susieice]

1 minute ago, Essan said:

Most of them not paedophiles     

The problem is that the media (and public) don't know a sperm whale from a minnow.

I don't agree with that.

[+susieice]

It seems a researcher at MIT is going to resign because of the institutions ties with Epstein. A professor from MIT was also named by Giuffre as one of her abusers.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/08/20/mit-more-fallout-from-epstein-ties/2xNSQTkullsjQzfPcVSgjJ/story.html

[Essan]

1 minute ago, susieice said:

I don't agree with that.

You don't agree with what?

That paedophilia means a sexual interest in pre-pubescent children?
 

[+susieice]

1 minute ago, Essan said:

You don't agree with what?

That paedophilia means a sexual interest in pre-pubescent children?
 

You need to do some research.

[Essan]

3 minutes ago, susieice said:

You need to do some research.

Er .....   

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

2 hours ago, Essan said:

You don't agree with what?

That paedophilia means a sexual interest in pre-pubescent children?
 

I must admit, I did not think that was correct, but it is.

"A psychiatric disorder in which an adult or adolescent experiences a primary sexual attraction to prepubescent children."

 

[+susieice]

28 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I must admit, I did not think that was correct, but it is.

"A psychiatric disorder in which an adult or adolescent experiences a primary sexual attraction to prepubescent children."

 

The cut off age is 13. Many children younger than that are sexually abused. This is just talking about the attraction to young children. The age of consent varies with different states and even different countries. If the age of consent is 16 many states require the partner to be no more than 5 yrs older. Did this research for a thread from earlier.

The term is commonly used by most people to refer to people who engage or attempt to engage in sexual activity with someone under age. It's not a point I'm going to argue. Epstein certainly exhibited the behavior.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Edited August 22, 2019 by susieice

[Tiggs]

5 hours ago, LucidElement said:

for probably no other reason then because they shouldnt have left him alone - staff and guards.... doubt its for anything more serious like (assisting his suicide)

Probably not -- but someone's going to be charged with a crime. There's no reason to subpoena witness testimony in front of a grand jury, otherwise.

[+susieice]

23 hours ago, pixiii said:

Just a follow up to Bill Gates:

Bill Gates is refusing to explain why he flew on Epstein's private jet

From this article, I'm not sure if he's actually refusing to explain why - it could very well be he's ignoring it as he has nothing to hide perhaps. 

Just picked up on this pixiii. So Bill Gates was on the Lolita Express 4 yrs after Epstein was was charged and convicted in 2008. People seem to have ignored what Epstein and all this stuff was all about. From your link... I added another link at the bottom.

According to the flight logs, the world's second-richest man Gates was the chairman of Microsoft at the time he flew on Epstein's Lolita Express in 2013.The flight was four years after Epstein was jailed for soliciting a minor under the age of 18 for sex.

Gates was still the chairman of Microsoft when this occurred.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7377133/Bill-Gates-REFUSES-reveal-flew-Lolita-Express-Jeffrey-Epstein-prison-release.html

This is a great link too.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bill-gates-denies-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein-despite-flight-records_3050374.html

Edited August 23, 2019 by susieice

[+susieice]

This is one he!! of a way to start off a news article. This is a really interesting read. It discusses what happened to Vanity Fair, ABC News and the NY Times. Or how Epstein handled the press when it asked questions. It also mentions two sisters who have filed lawsuits I didn't know about previously.

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/22/753390385/a-dead-cat-a-lawyers-call-and-a-5-figure-donation-how-media-fell-short-on-epstei

A coterie of intimidating lawyers. A deployment of charm. An aura of invincibility. A five-figure donation to a New York Times reporter's favored nonprofit. A bullet delivering a message. Even, it is alleged, a cat's severed head in the front yard of the editor-in-chief of Vanity Fair.

Such were the tools the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein is said to have used to try to soften news coverage and at times stave off journalistic scrutiny altogether.

Edited August 23, 2019 by susieice

[Gwynbleidd]

2 hours ago, susieice said:

An aura of invincibility.

I've noticed they all act like this.  

You know that fellow Borgerson that Ghislaine was having some sort of relationship with, and the Ghislaine's sister was seen packing some things up from Borgerson's house.....

I was looking into him and you'll never guess what he specialises in doing - cargo.  Moving cargo INTERNATIONALLY.   

You'll never guess who the main investor was to get him going?  Eric Schmidt, the CEO from the Alphabet Company that owns Google, Instagram blah blah blah - the same Eric Schmidt that resigned soon after Trump passed that Law where assets were to be seized for human trafficking in Dec 2017.

Who else better to know - especially if you ever wanted to move humans about the planet, than someone who specialises in international cargo.  

Probably how Ghislaine escaped the country.  Such friends in high places and with such means to do this all of this too. 

Just some food for thought  

Quote

This is from that link Susie btw:

"We need to look at ourselves, too," the Miami Herald's Brown tells NPR. "We need to understand why this wasn't scrutinized in this way before."

People are getting less afraid to speak up about issues they were once too frightened to vocalize.  At least I think that's what has changed. 

Edited August 23, 2019 by pixiii

[+susieice]

Yes pixiii. So Schmidt financed Borgenson?? 

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/30/18524495/google-alphabet-board-eric-schmidt-steps-down-18-years

And Google connects to this guy who they could have fired and instead paid him $90 million.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/technology/google-sexual-harassment-andy-rubin.html

And to another Google executive Amit Singhal, who only ended up with $15 million in the end. These payoffs caused protests at Google. The shareholders filed a lawsuit.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/11/18260712/google-amit-singhal-andy-rubin-payout-lawsuit-accused-sexual-harassment

The payments were approved by Google’s Leadership Development and Compensation Committee, according to the suit. It alleges that other Google executives allowed Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Eric Schmidt to dominate the board committee and influence the decision to pay Rubin and Singhal.

The shareholder lawsuit accuses Google of breaching its fiduciary duty, abuse of power, unjust enrichment, and corporate waste. It asks for a trial and calls for Google to handle future sexual harassment accusations better. The lawsuit is also seeking punitive damages, without demanding a specific amount of money. The 202-page lawsuit is filled with 119 pages of media reports from outlets like the Wall Street Journal, BBC, and NPR as evidence to back up its claims that Google enabled rampant sexual harassment from senior executives.

The suit quotes an anonymous Google employee who said: “When Google covers up harassment and passes the trash, it contributes to an environment where people don’t feel safe reporting misconduct. They suspect that nothing will happen, or, worse, that the men will be paid and the women will be pushed aside.”

 

Edited August 23, 2019 by susieice

[+susieice]

Apparently marriage doesn't stop Mr Schmidt from enjoying himself. He has frozen embryos with one woman. I wish someone would give me a 10 carat pink sapphire friendship ring!

https://pagesix.com/2019/08/03/ex-google-ceo-eric-schmidt-may-still-be-married-but-hes-nycs-hottest-bachelor/

[Gwynbleidd]

3 minutes ago, susieice said:

Yes pixiii.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/30/18524495/google-alphabet-board-eric-schmidt-steps-down-18-years

And Google connects to this guy who they could have fired and instead paid him $90 million.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/technology/google-sexual-harassment-andy-rubin.html

And to another Google executive Amit Singhal, who only ended up with $15 million in the end. These payoffs caused protests at Google. The shareholders filed a lawsuit.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/11/18260712/google-amit-singhal-andy-rubin-payout-lawsuit-accused-sexual-harassment

The payments were approved by Google’s Leadership Development and Compensation Committee, according to the suit. It alleges that other Google executives allowed Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Eric Schmidt to dominate the board committee and influence the decision to pay Rubin and Singhal.

 

The shareholder lawsuit accuses Google of breaching its fiduciary duty, abuse of power, unjust enrichment, and corporate waste. It asks for a trial and calls for Google to handle future sexual harassment accusations better. The lawsuit is also seeking punitive damages, without demanding a specific amount of money. The 202-page lawsuit is filled with 119 pages of media reports from outlets like the Wall Street Journal, BBC, and NPR as evidence to back up its claims that Google enabled rampant sexual harassment from senior executives.

The suit quotes an anonymous Google employee who said: “When Google covers up harassment and passes the trash, it contributes to an environment where people don’t feel safe reporting misconduct. They suspect that nothing will happen, or, worse, that the men will be paid and the women will be pushed aside.”

 

Isn't this ironic?  Do you remember the large amount of CEO's all around the USA that resigned soon after that time.  

11 minutes ago, susieice said:

Apparently marriage doesn't stop Mr Schmidt from enjoying himself. He has frozen embryos with one woman. I wish someone would give me a 10 carat pink sapphire friendship ring!

https://pagesix.com/2019/08/03/ex-google-ceo-eric-schmidt-may-still-be-married-but-hes-nycs-hottest-bachelor/

Good grief, that girl looks like she's 16. 

Wow, a romantic getaway to........Greenland.   

[Tiggs]

7 minutes ago, pixiii said:

Good grief, that girl looks like she's 16. 

She's apparently 32.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

5 hours ago, susieice said:

The cut off age is 13. Many children younger than that are sexually abused. This is just talking about the attraction to young children. The age of consent varies with different states and even different countries. If the age of consent is 16 many states require the partner to be no more than 5 yrs older. Did this research for a thread from earlier.

The term is commonly used by most people to refer to people who engage or attempt to engage in sexual activity with someone under age. It's not a point I'm going to argue. Epstein certainly exhibited the behavior.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

I thought your above was more in line with it. Ok, it's not my desire to discuss it, truly. 

[Gwynbleidd]

11 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I thought your above was more in line with it. Ok, it's not my desire to discuss it, truly. 

Yep, we've been over this in the previous Epstein thread to do with the TedX talks and that particular group of progressives empathizing with pedophiles. No thank you.

Edited August 23, 2019 by pixiii

[LucidElement]

circling back to the "suicide" i actually believe he hung himself now. Ive been steered in that direction with all the preperation via wills and how much crap this guy did in plain site. He was leaking from every hole.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

You could very well be right, @LucidElement. 

[aztek]

then why screams from his cells, and why the cell mate was threatened to keep his mouth shot, when he was not even in the cell?

the more they say it was a suicide the less i believe

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

He did take care of his will, @aztek, so maybe he knew he'd be off'd??  maybe. could be too, he knew he'd commit suicide. Hard to say

Edited August 23, 2019 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[+susieice]

1 hour ago, LucidElement said:

circling back to the "suicide" i actually believe he hung himself now. Ive been steered in that direction with all the preperation via wills and how much crap this guy did in plain site. He was leaking from every hole.

There are 7 vertebrae in the neck and the hyoid bone. We know his hyoid and 3 of the vertebrae were broken from the autopsy. That's the only thing that makes me question suicide. Could he have hung himself with enough force to break those bones? I always thought it was suicide but I keep asking myself this.

He did rewrite his will. It seems he knew what would happen when he died and he was going to protect his estate from lawsuits.

Edited August 23, 2019 by susieice

[LucidElement]

9 minutes ago, susieice said:

There are 7 vertebrae in the neck and the hyoid bone. We know his hyoid and 3 of the vertebrae were broken from the autopsy. That's the only thing that makes me question suicide. Could he have hung himself with enough force to break those bones? I always thought it was suicide but I keep asking myself this.

He did rewrite his will. It seems he knew what would happen when he died and he was going to protect his estate from lawsuits.

Sus,you have 20k posts , i think 1k of them around on this thread hahaha jk!! love how active and into this conspiracy you are!!! you a bad azz! hahaha... keep it up! South Florida shout out - to PA!