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8 hours ago, glorybebe said:

"I am resigning effective immediately from my position in CSAIL at MIT," Stallman wrote in the email, referring to MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. "I am doing this due to pressure on MIT and me over a series of misunderstandings and mischaracterizations."

LOL look at this guy trying to downplay what he's said.  :rolleyes:

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2 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd said:

LOL look at this guy trying to downplay what he's said.  :rolleyes:

He sure is.

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17 hours ago, susieice said:

"but the enormous progression of victims' rights through this case will ensure that violations like this never happen again in this country.

I feel like this is going to be a, "I'll believe it when I see it" kinda statement.  :(  

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17 hours ago, susieice said:

Just to add on the side, Elon Musk got himself into a lawsuit over calling one of the cave divers that rescued the Thailand boys' soccer team last summer a pedo guy. Musk's plans had been scrapped by the Thai government. I remember that happening. They sent in the cave divers instead in a successful mission that got everyone out alive. 

Oh yes I remember this and ended up looking into it later.  The fellow was indeed a pedo and I think it was fair of Musk to say that too.  Do we not speak of these people or let other's know?  Sorry, I don't believe in hiding that sort of thing - and obviously Musk felt the same way.  

There were even rumours at the time that those poor kids were trapped in there due to a trafficking scheme that was busted - as I said though, rumours. But still, that's a very popular area for trafficking kids in and out.  

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17 hours ago, susieice said:

However, in a separate filing in the case unsealed on Monday, the federal government told the court in 2011 that the agreement applied only in Florida, not to any charges that might be filed in another state.

Excellent, then that will not stop the victims from filing in NM and NY and the Virgin Island US.  :D 

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Just looking at that Mnuchin guy again....(munchkin I've been reading that as) :wacko:

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Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin is the 3rd Trump administration member linked to Jeffrey Epstein or his circle

This is what I like about the Epstein case - the names just keep rolling in and they're from all over the place.  

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/treasury-sec-mnuchin-listed-as-contact-epstein-friend-firm-2019-9?r=US&IR=T

Who were the other two in the Trump Admin?  I can't think. 

Wow, look at the denial in action here...

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“Secretary Mnuchin never served in any official capacity in Next Management Corporation, never did any business with nor knows either of the Brunel brothers, and never had any ownership stake in Next Management Corporation or any related entities.”

“Secretary Mnuchin had no knowledge whatsoever that he was listed as a point of contact – at an address he’s not familiar with – for a company that he’s had no dealings with. That listing was clearly an error.”

:lol: I'm beginning to laugh at these people now, they're becoming so predictable.

Plus I wish they'd stop reporting this...

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Jeffrey Epstein killed himself in a New York jail cell in August after his arrest on sex-trafficking charges.

Like duh, if you didn't know by now, you must be living under a rock.  Not to mention, the percentage of people who believe he "killed himself" is disproportionately low in comparison to the percentage of people who believe something suspicious went on. 

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4 hours ago, Gwynbleidd said:

Oh yes I remember this and ended up looking into it later.  The fellow was indeed a pedo and I think it was fair of Musk to say that too.  Do we not speak of these people or let other's know?  Sorry, I don't believe in hiding that sort of thing - and obviously Musk felt the same way.  

There were even rumours at the time that those poor kids were trapped in there due to a trafficking scheme that was busted - as I said though, rumours. But still, that's a very popular area for trafficking kids in and out.  

Thanks. I didn't know anything about this so I looked. He was said to have married a 12 yr old bride, which they say isn't true. I found this article. It's a really good read. I saw somewhere that this is going to court in October. Let's all hope the truth comes out about this.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-unsworth-pedo-guy-deposition-private-investigator

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4 hours ago, Gwynbleidd said:

Excellent, then that will not stop the victims from filing in NM and NY and the Virgin Island US.  :D 

Nope! And they can file against the people like Maxwell who were only protected in Florida.  :tu:

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58 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd said:

Who were the other two in the Trump Admin?  I can't think. 

I don't know. The only one I can think of is Acosta. This Mnuchin seems to be in really deep when it comes to Brunel.

Munchkin, I love that! Does anyone else think these peoples' names are designed to be unspellable or unpronounceable just in case they get in trouble at some point? Make it harder for people to follow.

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Epstein's ex-cop former cellmate has been put back into the Special Housing Unit for his own protection. Apparently there had been some sort of punishment that put him where Epstein was. He got 75 days there for possessing an illegal cellphone. When he was released to general population on Monday, inmates recognized him. 

https://nypost.com/2019/09/17/ex-cop-accused-of-roughing-up-epstein-thrown-back-into-solitary-confinement/

Ex-Briarcliff Manor cop Nicholas Tartaglione was sent to the “Special Housing Unit” in the federal Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan after getting caught with a cellphone on July 3.

The hulking bodybuilder finished up his 75-day punishment on Monday and was being transferred back to general population when fellow inmates spotted him and began yelling, “That’s the cop!”, defense lawyer Bruce Barket said during a hearing in White Plains federal court.

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1 hour ago, susieice said:

Thanks. I didn't know anything about this so I looked. He was said to have married a 12 yr old bride, which they say isn't true. I found this article. It's a really good read. I saw somewhere that this is going to court in October. Let's all hope the truth comes out about this.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-unsworth-pedo-guy-deposition-private-investigator

Thanks Susie, I was just looking at this article too of Elon's where he said: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/16/elon-musk-once-worried-unsworth-may-be-another-jeffrey-epstein.html

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Elon Musk testified he worried Thai cave rescuer might be ‘another Jeffrey Epstein’

And I had to laugh at this, because if anyone actually believes that what is said on Twitter is fact, they probably should rethink that.  It's such a toxic wasteland of nastiness back and forth.  Actually I think of it more as a venting place - ppl just go off like maniacs. 

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One of Musk’s key arguments to the court is that he first said “pedo guy” as a generic insult, and didn’t mean to “convey facts,” with his tweets.

:lol: Oh my!

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2 hours ago, susieice said:

I don't know. The only one I can think of is Acosta. This Mnuchin seems to be in really deep when it comes to Brunel.

Munchkin, I love that! Does anyone else think these peoples' names are designed to be unspellable or unpronounceable just in case they get in trouble at some point? Make it harder for people to follow.

Oh yes, some of them have really hard to spell or pronounceable names.  Look at Ghislaine.  I'd never heard of that name before her. 

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After cruising through 4ch to see if there were any new links that someone has found, I came across this one where someone's linked an article explaining and exposing prominent members of the 110 year old Anglo-American Pilgrim Society (formed in 1909) in Epstein's little Black Book. 

I have never heard of this society at all, but oh my goodness, this is a rather large article that covers from the founding of this "society"  and mentions a bunch of names that we already know of.  One of them in particular was that SCOTUS Antonin Scalia that was found dead...... gosh they all turn up dead, don't they. :rolleyes:

I will quote a little bit so you get the gist of what this society is:

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The Pilgrim Society's Empire Press Union created MI5, MI6 and GC&CS, now GCHQ in 1909

All the leading British and American newspapers were weaponized in 1909 by the British Government-led Pilgrim Society: Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Times, Daily Mirror, Daily Express, Sunday Times, Observer, Financial Times, , Washington Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune, Boston Globe, etc.

As radio and television emerged in the 1920s, the list of Pilgrimweaponized intelligence propaganda media expanded to BBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CBC, CNN, CNBC, Comcast and now FOX

The C.I.A., FBI, NSA and State Department are the b****** stepchildren under Pilgrims Society (British) control today

It shows old newspaper clipping after newspaper clipping and more - someone has gone to a lot of trouble to find all of this and put it together.  

It talks about Anglophile White Supremacists (within this society):  There is a whole picture of the flight logs and black book copies to show this below:

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(SEP. 12, 2019)—Prominent members of the 117-year old Pilgrims Society (1902)—a secretive group of self styled UK-U.S. elitist Anglophile white supremacists

Henry Kissinger (p.31), Larry Summers (“Lolita Express” Flight Manifests), Rupert Soames, OBE (p.50), Baron Conrad Black (p. 06) and Duke of York Andrew Windsor (p.16) are in Epstein’s contact book. 

The link opens a pdf document which is 47 pages long.  https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/afi/2019-09-12-THE-SECRET-PLOT-IN-1909-BY-THE-ANGLO-AMERICAN-PILGRIMS-SOCIETY-TO-STAFF-SPY-AGENCIES-WITH-NEWSPAPERMEN-Americans-for-Innovation-Sep-12-2019.pdf

It mentions so many people to do with media today and the silicon valley guys such as Zuckerberg, Cheryl Sandberg of Facebook and how Russian Oligarchs are involved too.  This is really quite out there - I can't believe someone has put all of this together.  It's like an extremely intricate network of elites. 

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  • An investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and possible violations of International Meghan's Law was launched on January 9 
  • There were probes underway in the US Virgin Islands as well as France, Morocco, Monaco and Austria 
  • On March 15, Epstein told his prole officer in the US Virgin Islands he would be flying to France from the 19th of that month to the 29th
  • He then took side trips top Austria and Monaco without alerting the officer, said Marshalls 
  • The probes and investigations were all shut down following Epstein's suicide  
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The United States Marshals Service began investigating Jeffrey Epstein on January 9 of this year after receiving a tip from the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York that he may have been violating International Meghan's Law.

At the time of his suicide, that investigation had spread around the globe, with probes underway in the US Virgin Islands as well as France, Morocco, Monaco and Austria.

Those last three countries were all locations that Epstein had traveled to without alerting his parole officer, stating instead that he was going to France, where he owns an $8 million apartment.

On March 15, Epstein told his parole officer in the US Virgin Islands he would be flying to France from the 19th of that month to the 29th, flying in and out on his private jet.

He made side trips however, according to the Marshalls, who wrote in one report: 'According to a public website that tracks flight activity EPSTEIN traveled on March 22, 2019 to Vienna, Austria and on March 27, 2019 to Monaco. These countries are not listed on the notification form.'

Once Epstein was behind bars, the US Marshals reached out to officials in these countries to expand their investigation.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7470199/Jeffrey-Epstein-investigation-began-January-probes-launched-Morocco-Monaco-Austria.html

Sneaky, sneaky Jeffrey. I don't think it's going to shock any of us in here especially, that he didn't abide by the law during these overseas trips.   Susie I think you posted something to do with the Marshalls investigating this the other day actually.  I just found this one on 4ch and thought I'd share for all of us here - sorry if it's been posted prior.   

That same individual requested flight logs, a search warrant for Epstein's phone and 'traveled to the US Virgin Islands to work on an operation involving International Megans Law' in July.

This darn phone has never been found....yet.  And they dropped the search warrant after he died.  How stupid is that?  Search for the phone - it's obviously somewhere or someone has it.  Don't they track all of these phones nowadays.  :rolleyes:

I simply had to copy & paste this comment from that site:  It's so typical of how people feel! :lol:

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Pretty convenient. He's dead and investigation stopped. Everyone knew he would die or go into witness protection. Can't let the names come out.

 

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Someone might find this an interesting trail of info when this whole sweetheart plea deal came about in a timeline.... :mellow:

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2005, some girl at school in Florida was called a prostitute and got her ass kicked; a journalist and a principal are investigating; the girl told them she worked at Jeffrey's place in Palms Beach; turns out she was not the only underage giving massages; cops be copin'; Marcinkova and Kellen began to be known to the investigators at that time period as well
>* 2006, detectives had the case cold, locked in, 30 victims, phone records, garbage snatch, CP on Epstein's computer, a shrine to the victims in his bedroom closet, dozens of interviews confirming
> detectives write up 4 felony charges for Epstein and Maxwell, looking at life in prison if convicted, state attorney on board, ready to charge
> suddenly, the state attorney is taken off the case, new state attorney assigned
> he has a private one on one interview with Dershowitz
> a deal is made
> slap on the hand in exchange for immunity
> immunity for ALL charges
> immunity for ALL people involved
> including the man (Dershowitz) who wrote the agreement
> because he was ******* the children too
> case is sealed, victims not told, detectives are stonewalled
> all of the evidenced turned over to the FBI in June 2016, just before the election

Oh, and how did they get rid of the first state attorney? You'll love this...
> her husband is also a lawyer
> he works for a law firm.
> out of the blue, his boss assigns him a new case
> working for Epstein on another matter
> state attorney forced to withdraw for conflict of interest.

This one has all of the links to piece a timeline together so far up until his death:

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* 2008, Miami Herald is still on watch after the case, justice kicks in for another time, Epstein guaranteed to serve time in jail but then prosecutors are told to **** off since he was from intelligence
>* Two Obama terms, probably Epstein's best years; Trump was trying to get Jeffrey in jail in 2009 (and had kicked him out of Mar-A-Lago before this)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/prosecutor-in-2009-epstein-case-said-donald-trump-was-the-only-one-who-helped-him/
>* Epstein arrested 7/6/19.
https://nypost.com/2019/07/06/billionaire-pedo-jeffrey-epstein-held-in-manhattan-on-new-underage-sex-case/
>* Epstein """attempted suicide""" or attacked on 7/24/19.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Jeffrey-Epstein-Found-Injured-in-NYC-Jail-Cell-After-Possible-Suicide-Attempt-or-Assault-Sources-513174311
>* Between the 24th and his death, "Jeffrey Epstein told prison guards and fellow inmates that he believed someone had tried to kill him".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7344785/Jeffrey-Epstein-told-guards-tried-KILL-weeks-hanged-himself
>* 8/9/19, 2024 unsealed pages damaging to Epstein (and others like Maxwell, Clintons, UK royals) were released.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf
>* There was a """camera malfunction""" at the Metropolitan Correctional Center where Epstein was in jail. (Unconfirmed)
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1160199691373621250
>* There were """two guards at the MCC who normally have an overnight shift that watches over suicide risk inmates, were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallway"""
https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1160235309596139520?s=20
>* At ~6:30 am ET on 8/10/19, Epstein was "found unresponsive in his cell in the Special Housing Unit from an """apparent suicide"""".

* 2008, Miami Herald is still on watch after the case, justice kicks in for another time, Epstein guaranteed to serve time in jail but then prosecutors are told to **** off since he was from intelligence
>* Two Obama terms, probably Epstein's best years; Trump was trying to get Jeffrey in jail in 2009 (and had kicked him out of Mar-A-Lago before this)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/prosecutor-in-2009-epstein-case-said-donald-trump-was-the-only-one-who-helped-him/
>* Epstein arrested 7/6/19.
https://nypost.com/2019/07/06/billionaire-pedo-jeffrey-epstein-held-in-manhattan-on-new-underage-sex-case/
>* Epstein """attempted suicide""" or attacked on 7/24/19.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Jeffrey-Epstein-Found-Injured-in-NYC-Jail-Cell-After-Possible-Suicide-Attempt-or-Assault-Sources-513174311
>* Between the 24th and his death, "Jeffrey Epstein told prison guards and fellow inmates that he believed someone had tried to kill him".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7344785/Jeffrey-Epstein-told-guards-tried-KILL-weeks-hanged-himself
>* 8/9/19, 2024 unsealed pages damaging to Epstein (and others like Maxwell, Clintons, UK royals) were released.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf
>* There was a """camera malfunction""" at the Metropolitan Correctional Center where Epstein was in jail. (Unconfirmed)
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1160199691373621250
>* There were """two guards at the MCC who normally have an overnight shift that watches over suicide risk inmates, were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallway"""
https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1160235309596139520?s=20
>* At ~6:30 am ET on 8/10/19, Epstein was "found unresponsive in his cell in the Special Housing Unit from an """apparent suicide"""".

Sorry, I don't know how to take that background colour out.  Maybe a mod could fix it please.

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I didn't know whether to share this or not as it's a 2 hour video on Youtube but I guess it'd come in handy if you're bored and want to go through the entire Epstein case.  It goes back to Robert Maxwell, ties to Israel, MOSSAD, Ghislaine Maxwell, ex Mossad agents speaking, Israeli people speaking about their ways and anti-semitism.  I was just gob-smacked watching the first 10 mins of it, it even shows Trump with Robert Maxwell!!!!!  :o  

George Soros, Peter Soros, Rothschilds, Royals, gosh this is like a massive who's who.  I'm not a video expert, but it's been put together really well - very watchable.  Interviews from the Victim's Attorneys (current) - just everything, I cannot believe how much stuff is in this and I'm only 15 minutes in so far. 

Ghislaine is pictured doing a TED talk for goodness sakes....on her Terra Mar Foundation (scam of the ocean foundation more like it) and we can actually hear her talk. :rolleyes:

Enjoy! :) 

 

 

I  believe I'm now up to the part where @Phaeton80 mentioned Maxwell's connections to the KGB/Balkans, Euro Crime Syndicates oh my..... :o 

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6 hours ago, Gwynbleidd said:

Susie I think you posted something to do with the Marshalls investigating this the other day actually.

That's the only thing I can find that is supposed to have come from the documents released on September 11. There are hundreds more that still haven't been published.

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Never heard this man mentioned before. Brock Pierce, a former child actor, was invited to a meeting on Little St James because of something called cryptocurrency. No one knows why this man was included. He was also involved in a sex-abuse case in the 90's involving boys.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/strange-saga-jeffrey-epstein-s-link-brock-pierce-1240462

One such person may be serially self-reinventing entrepreneur Brock Pierce, who as a teenager co-founded the eventually infamous Digital Entertainment Network and who, in the mid- to late ‘90s, was associated with an alleged sex-abuse ring — this one involving young men. Several later contended in court filings that Pierce and two associates had drugged and assaulted them at parties in their Encino mansion. Pierce was never charged with any crime and has repeatedly denied wrongdoing. He settled with one plaintiff, and two others dismissed their cases against him.

Nothing suggests that anything of a sexual nature or anything untoward at all occurred at Mindshift. Pierce is only one of dozens of figures in Epstein’s dizzyingly vast network, and the link between the two may be nothing but a curiosity.

The rep for Pierce says he saw Epstein after that meeting "a few times over the intervening years at industry events, where many other prominent people were present." He adds that "the few communications that Mr. Pierce had with Epstein related to cryptocurrency" — an area in which Pierce established himself as a crypto centimillionaire, or maybe a billionaire, in the years following the conference.

Nothing suggests that anything of a sexual nature or anything untoward at all occurred at Mindshift. Pierce is only one of dozens of figures in Epstein’s dizzyingly vast network, and the link between the two may be nothing but a curiosity. But it is a strange tale: how a former child actor who never went to college ended up as an Epstein guest — a seemingly unlikely addition to a group that included a NASA computer engineer, an MIT professor of electrical engineering and a Nobel laureate in theoretical physics. “I don’t know what he had to do with science [or] why he was there,” says one person who attended.

 

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Richard Stallman really was a creep! I'm so glad he's out of MIT now!

https://splinternews.com/personally-im-disturbed-this-extremely-creepy-former-m-1838202777

In emails, Stallman wrote that one of Epstein’s victims, in the “most plausible scenario,” “presented herself” as “entirely willing.” Just so we are clear this is not what happened! Please feel free to pause here to take a shower and then return to keep reading.

Stallman was referring to a case in which a 17-year-old girl was allegedly forced by Epstein, an MIT donor, into a sexual encounter with late MIT professor Marvin Minsky.

When someone tried to explain that the person was 17, Stallman emailed: “it is morally absurd to define ‘rape’ in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17.”

In 2003, Stallman wrote on his personal blog in a post that’s still visible: “I think that everyone age 14 or above ought to take part in sex, though not indiscriminately. (Some people are ready earlier.)”

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Nothing new, interesting nonetheless. Referring to the MPN piece posted earlier..

 

 

 

 

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Vanity Fair is saying Epstein tried to sue Fergie for calling him a pedophile. They say it came from the Daily Mail.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/09/sarah-ferguson-jeffrey-epstein-prince-andrew-lawsuit

Now, the Mail is reporting that Epstein was planning to strong-arm Ferguson into retracting her statement through an unnamed law firm, whose services he retained in 2011. He also tapped crisis management PR firm Sitrick & Co, which confirmed to the Mail that it offered “consulting advice and public relations services concerning Epstein’s relationship with Prince Andrew.” They drafted a statement of retraction for her, but she, according to this source, “stuck to her guns” and “refused to comply.”

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3 hours ago, susieice said:

Vanity Fair is saying Epstein tried to sue Fergie for calling him a pedophile. They say it came from the Daily Mail.

:lol: However, her wording was probably more like....."Jeffrey you are a humongously big pedophile."    He didn't seem to care if he was labelled a pedo.  He flaunted his young girls that accompanied him everywhere. 

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