+susieice Posted September 21, 2020 #5751 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: Lmao!!! He was the most guilty person in the world with out a witness He is a witness. You need to reread. I don't think you did. I'm not talking about Prince Andrew. Edited September 21, 2020 by susieice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted September 21, 2020 #5752 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, susieice said: He is a witness. You need to reread. I don't think you did. I'm not talking about Prince Andrew. Oh my mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted September 21, 2020 #5753 Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 hours ago, susieice said: New photos of the island have been released. https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/jeffrey-epstein-watched-girls-gone-wild-while-exercising-report/ This is in the second group of 5. A bit unnerving. What is it supposed to be? At only around 6 inches tall, I don't think it is odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 21, 2020 #5754 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Myles said: What is it supposed to be? At only around 6 inches tall, I don't think it is odd. It's a hooded figure. It blends in with the other symbolisms found on the island. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted September 21, 2020 #5755 Share Posted September 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, susieice said: It's a hooded figure. It blends in with the other symbolisms found on the island. When I was a bachelor, I had stuff like that. Not that piece, but just weird stuff. Had a little statue of a black man made out of lava. Very stereotypical and would be considered racist as heck now. Have no idea what happened to it. I'm more concerned about the ugly candle holder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted September 21, 2020 #5756 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/passengers-epsteins-flight-logs-named-22715106 Your site wanted me to agree to some stuff. I found a similar article on the daily mail: Names of EVERY passenger to have flown on Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft 'to be revealed "sparking panic among the pedophile's wealthy friends" Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs on his aircraft, including his 'Lolita Express' jet, have been subpoenaed, sparking fear among the rich and famous who partied with the pedophile. The Attorney General in the US Virgin Islands, where the billionaire had a home and is said to have carried out many of his horrific crimes, has demanded to see the logs which document the passengers on his aircraft. The logs on his four helicopters and three planes span from 1998 until his suicide in prison last year. ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8754807/Names-passenger-Jeffrey-Epsteins-aircraft-revealed-sparking-panic.html#comments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistman Posted September 21, 2020 #5757 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, susieice said: It's a hooded figure. It blends in with the other symbolisms found on the island. Shades of Eyes Wide Shut - filmed at Countess Iveagh's (Clare Hazell, former Epstein sidekick) Elveden Hall. The statue's practically a direct reference to the film, except it's not red. Maybe it was a gift from Clare to Jeffrey, for old times' sake. Too bad nobody took pictures of the underground stuff on the island. The island and the setting are truly memorable, but the house and furnishings don't impress me at all. Pretty commonplace for a billionaire. Though I guess Jeffrey's mind was always, always on other things, very young things. What a shallow, preposterous narcissist. Edited September 21, 2020 by The Wistman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 24, 2020 #5758 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Bill Clinton met Ghislaine and Scott Bergenson for dinner in LA in 2014, along with Steve Bing. https://www.thedailybeast.com/revealed-bill-clintons-intimate-secret-dinner-with-ghislaine-maxwell https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/09/22/report-bill-clinton-and-ghislaine-maxwell-had-a-secret-dinner-in-2014/#7689beb48544 https://nypost.com/2020/09/22/bill-clinton-secretly-met-with-ghislaine-maxwell-report/ Edited September 24, 2020 by susieice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 24, 2020 #5759 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Former butler claims Ghislaine hated Epstein. https://www.newsweek.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-1533792 https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/ex-staffer-says-ghislaine-maxwell-hated-jeffrey-epstein-but-couldnt-leave-him/ “I hate him, but … I can’t leave,” Alessi claimed the British socialite would sob when he asked her why she was “staying with this guy.” “I was like, ‘Why? You have money,'” Alessi said — seemingly never getting an explanation from the accused madam. Alessi made the revelation to longtime Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, whom the podcast has followed as she confronts some of those who knew her during her time as the disgraced financier’s alleged sex slave. Edited September 24, 2020 by susieice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 24, 2020 #5760 Share Posted September 24, 2020 https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-victims-only-want-money-housekeeper-1533836 Jeffrey Epstein dismissed his victims by saying "they only want money" when challenged by his housekeeper, it has been claimed. Juan Alessi has said he did not know the "sickening" New York financier was abusing underage girls at his Florida mansion, as has been alleged. However, he told podcast Broken: Seeking Justice that he had warned Epstein he was seeing too many women. The former house manager and driver made his remarks in an interview with Virginia Giuffre, who accused Prince Andrew of having sex with her while she was a 17-year-old trafficking victim. The prince has denied having any sexual contact with Giuffre. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 25, 2020 #5761 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Getting anxious because it's time for the documents about Ghislaine to be released. I sure hope nothing stops them now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 25, 2020 #5762 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Giuffre says the victims were kept on a strict diet by Epstein and Maxwell to keep them looking prepubescent. https://nypost.com/2020/09/22/epstein-allegedly-kept-girls-on-diets-to-make-them-look-prepubescent/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted September 26, 2020 #5763 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 11:48 PM, susieice said: Getting anxious because it's time for the documents about Ghislaine to be released. I sure hope nothing stops them now. Me too...I thought it was set for the 22nd but I must have been wrong. It's past time a light was shined on their and others behaviour .... no one hiding, no free pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wistman Posted September 26, 2020 #5765 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 2:35 AM, susieice said: Former butler claims Ghislaine hated Epstein. https://www.newsweek.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-1533792 https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/ex-staffer-says-ghislaine-maxwell-hated-jeffrey-epstein-but-couldnt-leave-him/ “I hate him, but … I can’t leave,” Alessi claimed the British socialite would sob when he asked her why she was “staying with this guy.” “I was like, ‘Why? You have money,'” Alessi said — seemingly never getting an explanation from the accused madam. Alessi made the revelation to longtime Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, whom the podcast has followed as she confronts some of those who knew her during her time as the disgraced financier’s alleged sex slave. Frankly I'm not surprised. She's as much a narcissist as he, and she clearly has daddy issues that attached to him. As she aged, his preference for others like Kellan must've privately galled her, since all she really had left to offer that others couldn't was her cache' with the high and mighty. Her jealously was driving her, but all that exercise to stay fit (which I seem to remember she did) couldn't make up for his preference for the younger girls who procured for him, and 'assisted' him in ways that she once did. To her it was abandonment by daddy, but she couldn't quit him for the same reason...which results in a kind of hate, including self hate. Just my two cents. When are the transcripts of her testimony supposed to be released? I thought we'd have them by now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 26, 2020 #5766 Share Posted September 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Wistman said: Frankly I'm not surprised. She's as much a narcissist as he, and she clearly has daddy issues that attached to him. As she aged, his preference for others like Kellan must've privately galled her, since all she really had left to offer that others couldn't was her cache' with the high and mighty. Her jealously was driving her, but all that exercise to stay fit (which I seem to remember she did) couldn't make up for his preference for the younger girls who procured for him, and 'assisted' him in ways that she once did. To her it was abandonment by daddy, but she couldn't quit him for the same reason...which results in a kind of hate, including self hate. Just my two cents. When are the transcripts of her testimony supposed to be released? I thought we'd have them by now. I had to go back to an old article to find the date of release. September 22 was the date of the hearing by the US Circuit Courts. Skliss had the date right. We should hear something soon. https://www.courthousenews.com/second-circuit-grants-delay-on-ghislaine-maxwell-deposition-release/ I agree with you totally Wistman. Ghislaine had deep daddy issues and I have no doubt she transferred them to Epstein. Daddy was her whole world and she never accepted his death as anything but murder from what I've read. That's a solid synopsis Wistman. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted September 28, 2020 #5767 Share Posted September 28, 2020 These kinds of revelations seem to confirm that Giuffre was telling the truth. Former New Mexico Democratic Governor Bill Richardson is accused of raking in hundreds of thousands in bribes and kickbacks to fund debauched lifestyle including 'sexual services and favors' The scandal plagued former governor of New Mexico - who Virginia Roberts claimed she had underage sex with on Jeffrey Epstein's orders - has been dragged into the mud once again. Career politician Bill Richardson has been accused of raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes and kickbacks while in office - money which allegedly funded a luxury and debauched lifestyle including 'sexual services and favors', according to a recently unsealed legal complaint obtained by DailyMail.com. According to the lawsuit, Richardson ran a scam dubbed the 'Richardson Ring' which saw the one-time governor benefiting from money he grafted from business investments into the state of New Mexico in the early 2000s. ..... etc. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8768695/Former-NM-Governor-Bill-Richardson-accused-using-bribes-fund-sexual-services-favors.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted September 28, 2020 #5768 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, skliss said: These kinds of revelations seem to confirm that Giuffre was telling the truth. Former New Mexico Democratic Governor Bill Richardson is accused of raking in hundreds of thousands in bribes and kickbacks to fund debauched lifestyle including 'sexual services and favors' The scandal plagued former governor of New Mexico - who Virginia Roberts claimed she had underage sex with on Jeffrey Epstein's orders - has been dragged into the mud once again. Career politician Bill Richardson has been accused of raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes and kickbacks while in office - money which allegedly funded a luxury and debauched lifestyle including 'sexual services and favors', according to a recently unsealed legal complaint obtained by DailyMail.com. According to the lawsuit, Richardson ran a scam dubbed the 'Richardson Ring' which saw the one-time governor benefiting from money he grafted from business investments into the state of New Mexico in the early 2000s. ..... etc. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8768695/Former-NM-Governor-Bill-Richardson-accused-using-bribes-fund-sexual-services-favors.html That one was well known by anyone who was paying attention. I find it hard to believe it is really a "revelation". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted September 28, 2020 #5769 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said: That one was well known by anyone who was paying attention. I find it hard to believe it is really a "revelation". I think you live a little closer, you may have seen more. I had no idea he was involved in anything havey-cavey until Giuffre spoke out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted September 28, 2020 #5770 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, skliss said: I think you live a little closer, you may have seen more. I had no idea he was involved in anything havey-cavey until Giuffre spoke out. I had no idea at the time of the people involved, only what he was doing. He actually had a government appointment and was fired because he went through (embezled) 4 years budget in one year. When he represented New Mexico it was not good, and when he was governor there were lots of obvious money missing and he was involved in all of it. Not to mention he never lived in New Mexico until he ran as a representative of our state, and then he only had a residence but did not live here. Just like GW, he was planted. Edited September 28, 2020 by Desertrat56 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted September 28, 2020 #5771 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: I had no idea at the time of the people involved, only what he was doing. He actually had a government appointment and was fired because he went through (embezled) 4 years budget in one year. When he represented New Mexico it was not good, and when he was governor there were lots of obvious money missing and he was involved in all of it. Not to mention he never lived in New Mexico until he ran as a representative of our state, and then he only had a residence but did not live here. Just like GW, he was planted. Not getting into other things on this thread but I really didn't know about the embezzelment. Obviously with the added sex scandals even more was going on! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 28, 2020 #5772 Share Posted September 28, 2020 It backs up what Guiffre said to me also. I didn't know about all of this either Desertrat. Now I don't doubt he was likely involved with Epstein. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistman Posted September 29, 2020 #5773 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) So this went kinda under the radar from a few weeks ago: The Virgin Islands' Attorney General announced she intended to subpoena both the Dubins relative to a sex trafficking lawsuit and a racketeering case against Epstein, JP Morgan Chase. Quote Virgin Islands Attorney General Denise N. George filed a lawsuit in January of this year alleging Epstein brought hundreds of young women and girls (some as young as 11 years old) to his private island, Little St. James, which is located in the territory. As part of this lawsuit, George is planning to subpoena the Dubins, according to notices filed Sept. 3 and made public Tuesday, asking for a trove of documents and communications, including those related to any financial transactions with Epstein or Epstein entities; any communication with Epstein-related females or knowledge of women transported to Epstein’s estate; and communication with any Epstein assistant or aide about an au pair or child care provider employed by the family. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/09/08/virgin-islands-to-subpoena-hedge-fund-billionaire-glenn-dubin-in-epstein-case/#73ccf1ed26ad Some more juicy details here: 11:34 posted today Edited September 29, 2020 by The Wistman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 29, 2020 #5774 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 hours ago, The Wistman said: So this went kinda under the radar from a few weeks ago: The Virgin Islands' Attorney General announced she intended to subpoena both the Dubins relative to a sex trafficking lawsuit and a racketeering case against Epstein, JP Morgan Chase. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/09/08/virgin-islands-to-subpoena-hedge-fund-billionaire-glenn-dubin-in-epstein-case/#73ccf1ed26ad Some more juicy details here: 11:34 posted today Glad to hear it. Glenn Dubin is accused by victims and their butler gave a statement about a young Swedish girl who was abused in their home. Epstein also at one time wanted to marry their daughter. These people are no good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 30, 2020 #5775 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Saw this and I'm just putting it in here. She should have gotten longer. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nxvim-benefactor-clare-bronfman-who-gave-financial-support-keith-raniere-n1241556?fbclid=IwAR1IWc_44lQ_uFRaajtult5mQuyO9r6Vf2aJPXuAP_QIlUIJLMq-UlY5qmA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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