Epstein found Dead in Jail

[Gwynbleidd]

12 hours ago, susieice said:

Guiffre says Prince Andrew should go to jail. This is on a 60 minutes broadcast to be aired on Sunday. It says Australia but it likely will also air in the US version, I hope.

I cannot wait to watch this and I bet I forget.  Someone please remind me!

edit:  Jeesh I hope they do pick it up for the US tv.  It would be unfair for the US people not to see this.  I thought it was strange how the Australian 60 Minutes team got the interview and not the US team.  I began to think the US team were told not to go near it just like ABC.

Edited November 7, 2019 by Gwynbleidd

[+susieice]

14 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd said:

Therefore, I believe it was most likely one of the many frantic parents that were giving reports to the Palm Beach Police Department regarding their daughters getting paid for "massages"  at some old millionaire's house with a British recruitment officer of his. 

It's just a couple of pages back, I think, I put a link that said it was the mother of a 14 yr old girl who first involved the Palm Beach Police. Didn't want to go back and dig so here's a quick fix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

In 2005, police in Palm Beach, Florida began investigating Epstein after a parent complained that he had sexually abused her 14-year-old daughter.^[6] Epstein pleaded guilty and was convicted in 2008 by a Florida state court of procuring an underage girl for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute.

 

[+susieice]

26 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd said:

I cannot wait to watch this and I bet I forget.  Someone please remind me!

edit:  Jeesh I hope they do pick it up for the US tv.  It would be unfair for the US people not to see this.  I thought it was strange how the Australian 60 Minutes team got the interview and not the US team.  I began to think the US team were told not to go near it just like ABC.

60 Minutes is CBS. Since NBC and ABC has been revealed, it's a good chance you're probably right. I hope they air it here.

[Gwynbleidd]

17 minutes ago, susieice said:

It's just a couple of pages back, I think, I put a link that said it was the mother of a 14 yr old girl who first involved the Palm Beach Police. Didn't want to go back and dig so here's a quick fix.

I'm pretty sure we've got what I like to term, "Epstein Brain" sometimes LOL

So much info - and it's easy to forgot some, then you get reminded of other things, just a little bit of info and it all comes flooding back.  Gosh what a nightmare this entire case is.  I was saddened by Guiffre when she said there isn't a part of her body that they haven't abused.  Good grief.  I'd love to know where Ghislaine is.  All of her elite friends will no doubt know she was a trafficker now.  The poor little ex-rich orphan girl who had to sponge off Epstein to live in the manner she felt she deserved after Daddy offed himself.  Ugh. They make me sick.  

edit: Well her father was more than likely murdered.  But you know what we haven't heard anything about in a bit, is Brunel.....I'm looking forward to see what the French Investigation says after they interview him.  

Edited November 7, 2019 by Gwynbleidd

[+susieice]

1 minute ago, Gwynbleidd said:

I'm pretty sure we've got what I like to term, "Epstein Brain" sometimes LOL

So much info - and it's easy to forgot some, then you get reminded of other things, just a little bit of info and it all comes flooding back.  Gosh what a nightmare this entire case is.  I was saddened by Guiffre when she said there isn't a part of her body that they haven't abused.  Good grief.  I'd love to know where Ghislaine is.  All of her elite friends will no doubt know she was a trafficker now.  The poor little ex-rich orphan girl who had to sponge off Epstein to live in the manner she felt she deserved after Daddy offed himself.  Ugh. They make me sick.  

There's been so much information put in here. It's like, I read something and I know I've seen it and I know it's linked in here, but I don't really want to go back and search for it again. I just remembered seeing that in a link I just posted a couple of days ago. When Baden came out in that interview I remembered seeing things that were buried all the way back near the beginning of the thread. 

I feel really bad for Guiffre. The others too. I wonder how the French investigation is going also. They found Brunel in Brazil and the last I heard, Ghislaine had been seen there also. These investigations go so unmercifully slow. Dershowitz's trial should start soon.

Speaking of Dershowitz, he's lobbying in DC with ex-FBI Director, Louis Freeh, for an Israeli billionaire who the US has charged with corruption. Just to show politics in the US, in the title they call Dershowitz Trump's ally, but in the article, they say Trump was the one who sanctioned this guy. His name is Dan Gertler. It mentions Freeh's friendship with Dershowitz and that he investigated Guiffre's accusation for him too.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/alan-dershowitz-ex-fbi-director-louis-freeh-lobbying-for-israeli-billionaire-dan-gertler.html

The businessman, Dan Gertler, who has a net worth of just over $1 billion, was sanctioned in 2017 and 2018 by the Trump administration for the alleged abuses in affiliation with his business dealings in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

“I am acting as a defense lawyer, not a lobbyist. But the rules require registration if you present a defense to a non-judicial agency,” he told CNBC. Dershowitz and Freeh are lobbying the Treasury Department, which enacted the sanctions, on Gertler’s behalf.

 

The filing shows that at least part of their lobbying efforts for Gertler started in October 2018. They appear to have officially registered to act on his behalf on Monday, the date signed on the document by Freeh’s partner, Gregory Paw.

Gertler, according to the Treasury Department, “has amassed his fortune through hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of opaque and corrupt mining and oil deals” in the DRC. The Treasury put a freeze on his U.S. assets two years ago. In 2017, Gertler sold his stake in two Congo mines to Glencore, a commodities trading company based in Switzerland, for more than $960 million.

Freeh and Dershowitz have known each other for years. After Dershowitz was accused of sexual misconduct by a woman who has claimed she was abused by late financier Jeffrey Epstein, he hired Freeh’s security firm to conduct an independent investigation. Freeh, in 2016, announced that his team “found no evidence to support the accusations of sexual misconduct” against Dershowitz.

“In my opinion, the totality of the evidence found during the investigation refutes the allegations made against Professor Dershowitz,” Freeh said in a statement at the time.

[Gwynbleidd]

58 minutes ago, susieice said:

Speaking of Dershowitz, he's lobbying in DC with ex-FBI Director, Louis Freeh, for an Israeli billionaire who the US has charged with corruption. Just to show politics in the US, in the title they call Dershowitz Trump's ally, but in the article, they say Trump was the one who sanctioned this guy. His name is Dan Gertler. It mentions Freeh's friendship with Dershowitz and that he investigated Guiffre's accusation for him too.

Wow this is yet another prime example of how it doesn't matter who they are, they look after each other at that elite level.  I'd be more confident in making an assumption that all of these elites are connected in one way or another.  Whether they are "liked" or "disliked" I think they'd all be well aware of the sick behaviour that so-and-so has and vice versa.  Trump knew about Epstein but never reported it.  Admittedly he ended up helping Bradley Edwards and was quoted by him as saying Trump was the only "elite" to pick up the phone and say "how could he help?".   For all the hate-mongering that goes on about Trump - he was not the only elite that hung around Epstein.  They all knew his secrets and yet nobody, not one of them reported it.  Pretty immoral lot they must be.  It makes you wonder if people have any goodness left in them nowadays.  Sometimes it feels like everyone is out to get the next person or take advantage of them in some way.  

Edited November 7, 2019 by Gwynbleidd

[+susieice]

Here's a pretty good article about this Dan Gertler. I was cracking up. What an opening paragraph! The article goes on about how this guy has looted money and goes on about Dershowitz.

https://mondoweiss.net/2019/11/dershowitz-lobbies-for-the-criminal-israeli-looter-dan-gertler/

Dan Gertler, the criminal billionaire from Israel who has looted Africa of several billion dollars, is too corrupt even for the Trump administration — but not for publicity hound, pro-Israel lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who has just registered to lobby the U.S. government on Gertler’s behalf.

Dershowitz and Louis Freeh, the former FBI director who also registered to lobby for Gertler, are apparently arguing for the removal of Treasury Department sanctions that prevent Gertler from doing business in the U.S. In 2017, Treasury explained why it was punishing the Israeli under the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act, as a “malign” actor who has committed human rights abuses.

Gertler is an international businessman and billionaire who has amassed his fortune through hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of opaque and corrupt mining and oil deals in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) . . .  As a result, between 2010 and 2012 alone, the DRC reportedly lost over $1.36 billion in revenues from the underpricing of mining assets. . . 

Dan Gertler

Dan Gertler should be sent to prison for a long time. 

[+susieice]

Here's an article about Dershowitz's attempt to block Guiffre's attorneys from having that tape analyzed by another party.

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2019/11/04/attorneys-in-dershowitz-defamation-case-spar-over-production-of-taped-audio-recording-of-david-boies/

U.S. District Judge Loretta A. Preska of the Southern District of New York last month ordered Dershowitz to provide forensic firm Stroz Friedberg with a digital recording of the call to make a copy for both sides of the litigation. Dershowitz later turned over the microcassette, which is believed to hold the original audio of the conversation.

No content from the tape have been made publicly available.

In a Nov. 1 letter, Giuffre’s attorney, Charles “Chuck” Cooper, said the digital recording was only a “partial recording,” which rendered chunks of dialogue “either incomprehensible or wholly inaudible.” The poor quality, he argued, raised “grave concerns” about the accuracy of sealed transcripts that Dershowitz had previously provided to the court.

“Many of the words Mr. Dershowitz records in these transcripts simply cannot be discerned with any degree of confidence on the recording he provided,” said Cooper, a conservative legal luminary and chairman of the Washington firm Cooper & Kirk.

As a result, Cooper said, “expert analysis of the microcassette is imperative” to determine the true contents of the conversation. The problem, however, was that Stroz Friedberg lacked the ability to analyze analogue storage devises or even to extract the audio they hold. Instead, he asked Preska for an order requiring Stroz to send the tape to forensic firms with the capability to do so.

 

[Unusual Tournament]

@Gwynbleidd thanks a bunch. 

[Gwynbleidd]

1 hour ago, susieice said:

Dershowitz later turned over the microcassette, which is believed to hold the original audio of the conversation.

Hahahaha who still uses microcassettes?  Oh dear, poor old Dershy  Hahaha I'm dying laughing here. 

He's like the ultimate boomer.

Edited November 7, 2019 by Gwynbleidd

[Gwynbleidd]

27 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

@Gwynbleidd thanks a bunch. 

You're always welcome my friend 

[BrooklynGuy]

Thought you nice Folks might get a chuckle out of these two pieces. My thanks to Gwynbleidd, susieice and many others for their links and informative posts on this topic that imo sure looks like a murder and cover up so far.

ABC warns rival CBS about leaker after Amy Robach flap

ABC News chiefs have discovered a former employee could be behind the leak of the damning footage of Amy Robach slamming the network for shelving her interview with Jeffrey Epstein’s “sex slave” Virginia Roberts Giuffre. Sources told Page Six that a former staffer had access to the footage of Robach as she aired her frustrations over a hot mike. The employee is now believed to be working at CBS. ABC sources confirmed to us they’ve informed counterparts at rival CBS about the staffer “as a courtesy.”

Read more: https://pagesix.com/2019/11/06/abc-warns-cbs-about-leaker-after-amy-robach-flap/?_ga=2.124377866.1413005756.1571009275-1216166031.1571009275

 

‘Paging Epstein Coverup’: Airport says message was a mistake  

An electronic page for “Epstein Coverup” at San Diego International Airport was made by mistake, a report said Wednesday. The airport’s messaging system announced a page for “Epstein Coverup” on a screen in a terminal, according to video posted to Twitter that went viral Wednesday. The message on the screen reads, “Airport is paging Epstein Coverup please meet your party at terminal two east by American Airlines.” A spokesperson for the airport told a local ABC affiliate that the page was a mistake and precautions were “being taken to avoid such mistakes in the future.

Read more: https://nypost.com/2019/11/07/paging-epstein-coverup-airport-says-message-was-a-mistake/

[+DieChecker]

Oh so now "leakers" are "bad"?

If it's something juicy that can be Opinion based click-bait, from "someone familiar...". That's good news. If it is internal to your news outlet, it MUST be stomped on.

I dislike all leaking, but it is funny seeing the double standards of these folks.

[+susieice]

I thought there were two claims against Dershowitz. There are. Sarah Ransome also accused him. This article was written before Epstein's death.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alan-dershowitz-touts-his-perfect-sex-life-in-fued-with-epstein-accusers-lawyer

[+susieice]

3 hours ago, BrooklynGuy said:

Thought you nice Folks might get a chuckle out of these two pieces. My thanks to Gwynbleidd, susieice and many others for their links and informative posts on this topic that imo sure looks like a murder and cover up so far.

ABC warns rival CBS about leaker after Amy Robach flap

ABC News chiefs have discovered a former employee could be behind the leak of the damning footage of Amy Robach slamming the network for shelving her interview with Jeffrey Epstein’s “sex slave” Virginia Roberts Giuffre. Sources told Page Six that a former staffer had access to the footage of Robach as she aired her frustrations over a hot mike. The employee is now believed to be working at CBS. ABC sources confirmed to us they’ve informed counterparts at rival CBS about the staffer “as a courtesy.”

Read more: https://pagesix.com/2019/11/06/abc-warns-cbs-about-leaker-after-amy-robach-flap/?_ga=2.124377866.1413005756.1571009275-1216166031.1571009275

 

‘Paging Epstein Coverup’: Airport says message was a mistake  

An electronic page for “Epstein Coverup” at San Diego International Airport was made by mistake, a report said Wednesday. The airport’s messaging system announced a page for “Epstein Coverup” on a screen in a terminal, according to video posted to Twitter that went viral Wednesday. The message on the screen reads, “Airport is paging Epstein Coverup please meet your party at terminal two east by American Airlines.” A spokesperson for the airport told a local ABC affiliate that the page was a mistake and precautions were “being taken to avoid such mistakes in the future.

Read more: https://nypost.com/2019/11/07/paging-epstein-coverup-airport-says-message-was-a-mistake/

Here's a good article from The Hill about the Robach video. Gwyn and I were just saying last night, CBS likely will not air the 60 Minutes Epstein report here in the US Sunday night. It seems it will be aired in Australia.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/469325-saagar-enjeti-laments-leaked-abc-video-on-epstein-coverage

There's a lot to be found online now about how none of the networks covered any mention of the Robach video.

http://dailytorch.com/2019/11/disneys-jeffrey-epstein-cover-up-reveals-how-corrupt-media-is/

https://noqreport.com/2019/11/05/jeffrey-epstein-cover-amy-robachs-hot-mic-rants-get-zero-coverage-cnn-leftist-outlets/

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/abc-news-tries-to-cover-its-butt-with-lame-statement-about-epstein-coverup/

 

San Diego Airport is saying the message was an employee mistake. You probably won't see this on network news either.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/airport-accidentally-airs-paging-epstein-coverup-message

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/san-diego-airport-epstein-coverup-alert-was-an-employee-mistake

Edited November 7, 2019 by susieice

[+susieice]

It's just now being reported that CBS has fired the staffer who leaked the Robach video.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cbs-news-fires-staffer-who-leaked-abc-news-video-about-epstein-cover-up-report

This article confirms that ABC warned CBS about the staffer who leaked the video.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/abc-news-investigating-source-of-leaked-epstein-reporting-video/

Here's an article by the Chicago Tribune about the double standards of reporting at ABC. This is being reported all over online.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-jeffrey-epstein-abc-news-kass-20191107-j4yszesfrvb6nhly4t3ur5xvf4-story.html

[+susieice]

Bill Gates is again saying that meeting Epstein was a big mistake. There are many links in here that show Gates had numerous meetings with Epstein. Even in his French apartment and on Little St James island. In the CNBC article, Gates says he had numerous meetings.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/bill-gates-says-i-made-a-mistake-meeting-with-jeffrey-epstein.html

https://nypost.com/2019/11/06/bill-gates-says-meeting-jeffrey-epstein-was-a-mistake/

Edited November 7, 2019 by susieice

[+susieice]

Mark Epstein isn't staying quiet either. How very interesting! He says there were a lot more injuries found on the body at the autopsy. I think in the long run, Mark will sue the prison. He says no right now. The article continues past what I've quoted.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/06/jeffrey-epsteins-brother-says-he-might-have-been-murdered/

Jeffrey Epstein’s brother lashed out Wednesday over “unexplained” details in the pedophile’s jail-cell hanging — insisting, “My brother might have been murdered.”

Mark Epstein, 65, told Fox News that New York authorities were “playing games” as he tried to uncover mysterious details that he believed could prove his brother did not hang himself in his Manhattan lockup.

Now Mark Epstein says he is being blocked from getting further information over other mysterious injuries, including contusions on both wrists, a forearm abrasion and deep muscle hemorrhaging on the left shoulder.

“Those are unexplained,” Epstein told Fox News.

“Was he handcuffed and struggled? Was someone holding his wrists? The marks on his wrist are unexplained,” he insisted.

Epstein claims he first tried to get his brother’s complete file from the New York City Medical Examiner’s office on Aug. 16, less than a week after his brother was found hanged at the Metropolitan Correctional Center.

He told Fox that he was to told to instead contact the Department of Justice — with everyone giving him the runaround.

“I’ve done the appropriate requests with Justice twice, and have heard nothing. I was told someone is looking into it.”

“I have no standing to sue,” he told Fox. “People should know the truth about what can happen in a federal facility.

Edited November 7, 2019 by susieice

[+susieice]

Here's more articles about Epstein's injuries.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-unexplained-injuries-wrists-shoulder-brother

https://www.newser.com/story/282745/brother-alarmed-by-injuries-on-jeffrey-epsteins-body.html

[+susieice]

4 hours ago, BrooklynGuy said:

ABC warns rival CBS about leaker after Amy Robach flap

ABC News chiefs have discovered a former employee could be behind the leak of the damning footage of Amy Robach slamming the network for shelving her interview with Jeffrey Epstein’s “sex slave” Virginia Roberts Giuffre. Sources told Page Six that a former staffer had access to the footage of Robach as she aired her frustrations over a hot mike. The employee is now believed to be working at CBS. ABC sources confirmed to us they’ve informed counterparts at rival CBS about the staffer “as a courtesy.”

And then ABC turns around and butt hurts CBS over sexual misconduct  The fur is flying today! Watch the other videos in the series also. It seems the NYT is getting ready to release a report.

https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/explosive-allegations-surrounding-cbs-ceo-56890813

Edited November 7, 2019 by susieice

[BrooklynGuy]

6 minutes ago, susieice said:

And then ABC turns around and butt hurts CBS over sexual misconduct  The fur is flying today! Watch the other videos in the series also. It seems the NYT is getting ready to release a report.

https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/explosive-allegations-surrounding-cbs-ceo-56890813

Thanks for all the great links susieice and your always spot on analysis. I expect in the not to distant future as you may and many others, that we will hear more details on Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and many others alleged participation in Epstein's pedophilia ring and why many or all of them may have had a clear motive to want to see Epstein silenced. This is a true crime mystery that looks more and more like an assassination and cover up imo.

[+susieice]

2 minutes ago, BrooklynGuy said:

Thanks for all the great links susieice and your always spot on analysis. I expect in the not to distant future as you may and many others, that we will hear more details on Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and many others alleged participation in Epstein's pedophilia ring and why many or all of them may have had a clear motive to want to see Epstein silenced. This is a true crime mystery that looks more and more like an assassination and cover up imo.

The statements being made by Mark Epstein are really revealing. There were so many injuries to the body that were never mentioned. Mark would be a fool not to sue that prison. All the cameras that suddenly didn't work(that would have been seen right away in the control room), the guards never making the rounds and lying on their reports to say they did, an inconclusive autopsy report with all those injuries that was changed to suicide by a ME that never saw the body......This absolutely is a cover up.

[+susieice]

A lot of stuff is coming out now about CBS firing the employee who leaked the Robach video.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-fires-former-abc-staffer-epstein

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2019/11/07/cbs-reportedly-fires-employee-after-abc-news-rats-him-out-for-leaked-epstein-clip-n2556084

https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/07/cbs-fires-abc-employee-amy-robach/

https://www.enmnews.com/2019/11/07/cbs-news-fires-staffer-who-leaked-abc-news-video-about-epstein-cover-up-report/

 

 

[+susieice]

37 minutes ago, susieice said:

And then ABC turns around and butt hurts CBS over sexual misconduct  The fur is flying today! Watch the other videos in the series also. It seems the NYT is getting ready to release a report.

https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/explosive-allegations-surrounding-cbs-ceo-56890813

Apparently this happened at the end of 2018 but for some reason is coming up in google searches now. The videos aren't dated. A lot of people at CBS were gone when this broke. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/12/17/former-cbs-chairman-les-moonves-fired-cause-will-not-receive-severance-wake-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

“The press was informed of these baseless conclusions before Mr. Moonves, further damaging his name, reputation, career and legacy,” Moonves attorney Andrew J. Levander said in a statement. “Mr. Moonves vehemently denies any nonconsensual sexual relations and cooperated extensively and fully with investigators.”

 

Severance packages, which often result from the terms of an employee’s contract, have become flash points in high-profile workplace harassment and assault cases. Fox News terminated Bill O’Reilly’s contract in 2017 after he was accused of harassing female employees, and the former host walked away with $25 million. Roger Ailes received a $40 million severance package after he stepped down as head of Fox News in 2016 after his own sexual harassment scandal. And critics closely watched whether Matt Lauer’s departure from NBC News would include a hefty payout as well; several outlets reported that he would not receive money, though the network has not publicly confirmed.

CBS faced scrutiny last year after eight women accused longtime television host Charlie Rose of sexual harassment. Both CBS and PBS terminated Rose shortly thereafter. And “60 Minutes” executive producer Jeff Fager left CBS in September amid accusations of harassment and threatening texts.

 

The independent investigation into Moonves “also concluded that harassment and retaliation are not pervasive at CBS,” the board of directors said in a Monday statement.

[skliss]

13 hours ago, Gwynbleidd said:

Wow this is yet another prime example of how it doesn't matter who they are, they look after each other at that elite level.  I'd be more confident in making an assumption that all of these elites are connected in one way or another.  Whether they are "liked" or "disliked" I think they'd all be well aware of the sick behaviour that so-and-so has and vice versa.  Trump knew about Epstein but never reported it.  Admittedly he ended up helping Bradley Edwards and was quoted by him as saying Trump was the only "elite" to pick up the phone and say "how could he help?".   For all the hate-mongering that goes on about Trump - he was not the only elite that hung around Epstein.  They all knew his secrets and yet nobody, not one of them reported it.  Pretty immoral lot they must be.  It makes you wonder if people have any goodness left in them nowadays.  Sometimes it feels like everyone is out to get the next person or take advantage of them in some way.  

I often wonder though...did they know for sure? Or was it a case of rumors that he denied or said someone was out to get him? Maybe he hid it except to those he needed "the goods" on. Im sure there were suspicions but who wants to call without proof? Especially on someone with power. And I'm sure there were many who didn't care or turned a blind eye. I guess I like to think people aren't as bad as it looks like.