Vorg Posted August 14, 2019 #501 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, ScotDeerie said: I honestly don’t think it had to be anything elaborate. He knew he was done, he knew he was going to be in jail until he died, so he took a quick out. He was very spoiled. How long to you think he could stand being in jail? I agree. But until they review all of the data on available cameras in the facility, who the guards were, who the moved prisoner was, and why was he moved and failed protocol and all that, there will be conspiracy theories floating around forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 14, 2019 #502 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Perhaps it was "my bad" in trying to explain this and apparently failed. Perhaps this article will bear the point. Quote Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano on Monday said that something might have been "introduced" into Jeffrey Epstein's cell that provided him with the means to commit suicide. *snip* … who was in that very facility said no way these sheets could hold the weight of a human. What's that mean? That something else was introduced into his cell to facilitate his death", Napolitano claimed. link Admittedly it is information supplied by an unnamed former inmate at the facility. But.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #503 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, South Alabam said: I agree. But until they review all of the data on available cameras in the facility, who the guards were, who the moved prisoner was, and why was he moved and failed protocol and all that, there will be conspiracy theories floating around forever. Oh, they’ll be floating around forever anyway... (But I get your point.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #504 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Perhaps it was "my bad" in trying to explain this and apparently failed. Perhaps this article will bear the point. Admittedly it is information supplied by an unnamed former inmate at the facility. But.. Ligature strangulation does not require something that supports body weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 14, 2019 #505 Share Posted August 14, 2019 And now I learn that yes, this is a federal prison and that means the people who run it ultimately answer to the Attorney General! That means the AG had every right to tell the facility manager to keep a guard over him every minute of the day. Barr BLEW it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #506 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: And now I learn that yes, this is a federal prison and that means the people who run it ultimately answer to the Attorney General! That means the AG had every right to tell the facility manager to keep a guard over him every minute of the day. Barr BLEW it. Once again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 14, 2019 #507 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Epstein's original cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione, wasn't bailed out. He was still being held a couple of cells down from where Epstein was. His lawyers are now saying that he knows a lot about what happened. https://nypost.com/2019/08/13/killer-cop-inmate-says-he-heard-nothing-on-morning-of-jeffrey-epsteins-death/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 14, 2019 #508 Share Posted August 14, 2019 You just don't get it, Scot, do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted August 14, 2019 #509 Share Posted August 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, ScotDeerie said: I honestly don’t think it had to be anything elaborate. He knew he was done, he knew he was going to be in jail until he died, so he took a quick out. He was very spoiled. How long to you think he could stand being in jail? There is that, but people like him also think they can get away with anything...in fact, if he had a whole bunch of blackmail material stashed away somewhere he may have thought he could use the fear of that stuff getting out as his insurance against staying in jail. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 14, 2019 #510 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) Has anyone else noticed that every page is starting out marked as post #1? That's weird. Edited August 14, 2019 by susieice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #511 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, skliss said: There is that, but people like him also think they can get away with anything...in fact, if he had a whole bunch of blackmail material stashed away somewhere he may have thought he could use the fear of that stuff getting out as his insurance against staying in jail. True. But blackmail material is only good when you still have access to it. When he couldn’t get bail, it was worthless, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #512 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, susieice said: Has anyone else noticed that every page is starting out marked as post #1? That's weird. Yes. The count isn’t working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #513 Share Posted August 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: You just don't get it, Scot, do you Get what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 14, 2019 #514 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, ScotDeerie said: True. But blackmail material is only good when you still have access to it. When he couldn’t get bail, it was worthless, right? Unless he got someone else to access it for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #515 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, susieice said: Unless he got someone else to access it for him. And then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted August 14, 2019 #516 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, ScotDeerie said: True. But blackmail material is only good when you still have access to it. When he couldn’t get bail, it was worthless, right? No, he has employees and lawyers. He can pay people or he can have something timed to release electronically. Wouldn't it be something if it all appeared suddenly on wikileaks... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #517 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, skliss said: No, he has employees and lawyers. He can pay people or he can have something timed to release electronically. Wouldn't it be something if it all appeared suddenly on wikileaks... Has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 14, 2019 #518 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ScotDeerie said: Get what? What Napolitano is saying is that he had no standard sheet. A weak sheet won't support a body or - I suspect, ligature strangulation. Somebody slipped him a mickey finn, in other words. Edited August 14, 2019 by Earl.Of.Trumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted August 14, 2019 #519 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, ScotDeerie said: Has it? What a bizzarre question to ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted August 14, 2019 #520 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I love how people claim not to be conspiracy theorists but latch on to any tie they can make between Trump and Epstein. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 14, 2019 #521 Share Posted August 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Michelle said: I love how people claim not to be conspiracy theorists but latch on to any tie they can make between Trump and Epstein. you could open up a bag of potato chips and they'd see a Trump conspiracy in it. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #522 Share Posted August 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, skliss said: What a bizzarre question to ask. Actually the point was IT HASN’T. Sorry for being subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #523 Share Posted August 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Michelle said: I love how people claim not to be conspiracy theorists but latch on to any tie they can make between Trump and Epstein. How many “ties” do you need to admit to a connection? They were friends for at least two decades. Numerous photos and videos show them together. Trump admits to their association. Epstein introduced Melania to Trump. So how are those not ties? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotDeerie Posted August 14, 2019 #524 Share Posted August 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: What Napolitano is saying is that he had no standard sheet. A weak sheet won't support a body or - I suspect, ligature strangulation. Somebody slipped him a mickey finn, in other words. Do you understand ligature strangulation? You can claim a conspiracy but it’s so much simpler than that. He took an out. He had no other choice he could live with. But let’s assume it was murder. WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidElement Posted August 14, 2019 #525 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I still can’t believe they didn’t have a real correctional officer outside his cell, and the other who had supposedly worked 80 hours that week. Will these officers ever come out and speak of what happened? Probably not since they have been moved to a secluded location aka mandatory leave and the warden has been relocated to s new prison... Epstein was much more high profile then El Chapo, and you know damn well El Chapo couldn’t fart without a guard smelling or hearing it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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