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Evidence of the Babylonian conquest found

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Saru

Let's keep things civil please - there's way too many derogatory personal remarks being thrown around in this thread.

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larryp
On 9/29/2019 at 7:58 AM, Piney said:

Hebrews didn't have a "Hell". "Sheol" was just being trapped in your grave. 

 

Correct!!

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larryp
On 9/29/2019 at 9:48 AM, cormac mac airt said:

They did have Gehenna though which is where a lot of the descriptions of Hell seem to originate. 

cormac

Gehenna

The Greek name for the Valley of Hinnom, southwest of ancient Jerusalem. It was prophetically spoken of as a place where dead bodies would be strewn. There is no evidence that animals or humans were thrown into Gehenna to be burned alive or tormented. So the place could not symbolize an invisible region where human souls are tormented eternally in literal fire.

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cormac mac airt
10 minutes ago, larryp said:

Gehenna

The Greek name for the Valley of Hinnom, southwest of ancient Jerusalem. It was prophetically spoken of as a place where dead bodies would be strewn. There is no evidence that animals or humans were thrown into Gehenna to be burned alive or tormented. So the place could not symbolize an invisible region where human souls are tormented eternally in literal fire.

Try again.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6558-gehenna

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Harte
5 hours ago, larryp said:

Anyone with eyes can readily see that you are all about Smoke and Mirrors. Yahweh once said of his ancient people; they are worse than an unreasoning animal. I see a similarity.

Here you admit to all the lies Cormac listed.

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4 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

The first sentence had some truth but then started to fantasize. It's true, Judean Kings Ahaz and Manasseh engaged in idolatrous worship in the Valley of Hinnom, which included the making of human sacrifices by fire to Baal.

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cormac mac airt
5 minutes ago, larryp said:

The first sentence had some truth but then started to fantasize. It's true, Judean Kings Ahaz and Manasseh engaged in idolatrous worship in the Valley of Hinnom, which included the making of human sacrifices by fire to Baal.

Which counters the lie you supported per the quote in Post #703. 

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Posted (edited)

^^^ Yahweh repeatedly warned the Jews, don't do as your neighbors. Yes, some bad Kings disrespect Him. 
Did you think that every King would obey?

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cormac mac airt
5 minutes ago, larryp said:

^^^ Yahweh repeatedly warned the Jews, don't do as your neighbors. Yes, some bad Kings disrespect Him. 
Did you think that every King would obey?

Is it possible you could ever, consistently, tell the truth? So far your credibility is ZERO. 
 

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larryp

^^^ Smoke and mirrors!!

 

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gee I  learned  by doing  a DNA test I`m 10% Jewish,  so in trying to find their past ,I believe the  Moses Hebrews are the Habirus

Habiru (sometimes written as Hapiru, and more accurately as ʿApiru, meaning "dusty, dirty"[1]) is a term used in 2nd-millennium BCE texts throughout the Fertile Crescent for people variously described as rebels, outlaws, raiders, mercenaries, bowmen, servants, slaves, and laborers.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habiru

Israel is laid waste and his seed is not;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele

Babylonian is true because the Hebrews were capture twice by them. 

 

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10 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

gee I  learned  by doing  a DNA test I`m 10% Jewish,  so in trying to find their past ,I believe the  Moses Hebrews are the Habirus

Habiru (sometimes written as Hapiru, and more accurately as ʿApiru, meaning "dusty, dirty"[1]) is a term used in 2nd-millennium BCE texts throughout the Fertile Crescent for people variously described as rebels, outlaws, raiders, mercenaries, bowmen, servants, slaves, and laborers.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habiru

Israel is laid waste and his seed is not;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele

Babylonian is true because the Hebrews were capture twice by them. 

 

It’s no small feat to capture an ethnic group 1,000 years before there’s any historical record of them. 

—Jaylemurph 

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Piney
5 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

Was not a ethnic group but a social status. 

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The biblical word "Hebrew", like Habiru, denotes a social category, not an ethnic group.[14] Since the discovery of the 2nd millennium BCE inscriptions mentioning the Habiru, there have been many theories linking these to the Hebrews of the Bible, but modern scholars see the 'Apiru/Habiru as only one element in an early Israel composed of many different peoples, including nomadic Shasu and Shutu, the biblical Midianites, Kenites, and Amalekites, displaced peasants and pastoralists.[15][16]

 

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Piney
Just now, jaylemurph said:

It’s no small feat to capture a ethnic group 1,000 years before there’s any historical record of them. 

 

Fixed that for you......You should know better. :yes:

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cormac mac airt
9 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

gee I  learned  by doing  a DNA test I`m 10% Jewish,  so in trying to find their past ,I believe the  Moses Hebrews are the Habirus

Habiru (sometimes written as Hapiru, and more accurately as ʿApiru, meaning "dusty, dirty"[1]) is a term used in 2nd-millennium BCE texts throughout the Fertile Crescent for people variously described as rebels, outlaws, raiders, mercenaries, bowmen, servants, slaves, and laborers.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habiru

Israel is laid waste and his seed is not;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele

Babylonian is true because the Hebrews were capture twice by them. 

 

Except that no reputable archaeologist or historian agrees with you about the Habiru connection. 
 

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jaylemurph
4 minutes ago, Piney said:

Fixed that for you......You should know better. :yes:

Point taken. Post corrected. 

—Jaylemurph

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Posted (edited)

I still believe Akhenaten was the royal  Moses and his real parents were Habirus

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

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cormac mac airt
4 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

I still believe Akhenaten was the royal  Moses and his real parents were Habirus

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

His parents are known and were NEITHER Habiru’s NOR Hebrews. 
 

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docyabut2

There were 300 gods that Egypt believed  in ,where the Egyptian  Akhenaten only believe in a one god.

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Piney
7 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

I still believe Akhenaten was the royal  Moses and his real parents were Habirus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

Where were the Harbiru?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighteenth_Dynasty_of_Egypt_family_tree

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cormac mac airt
Just now, docyabut2 said:

There were 300 gods that Egypt believed  in ,where the Egyptian  Akhenaten only believe in a one god.

The Aten was the sun god and had been a solar deity in Ancient Egypt LONG before Akhenaten was born. 
 

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docyabut2
4 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

His parents are known and were NEITHER Habiru’s NOR Hebrews. 
 

cormac

cormac if you study the  Akhenaten`s  family never pictured him in the paintings of his family :(

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Piney
Just now, docyabut2 said:

cormac if you study the  Akhenaten`s  family never pictured him in the paintings of his family :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighteenth_Dynasty_of_Egypt_family_tree

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