papageorge1 Posted August 26, 2019 #301 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said: I would need more information on the typical experiment, what exactly was the remote viewer doing? You mention 'the judge' has to select between one of four possibilities; do you mean the remote viewer and not the judge? Sorry, I'm confused what this experiment entails, like I said the ones I looked at involve the remote viewer drawing something and a subjective match being made to determine if resembles something else. Is there a link maybe that describes the experiment you are referring to? I don't have a link but I am sure the information is out there on experimental procedures. (I am not at home right now). But REGARDLESS, I think people like Radin, Hyman, Utts, Targ, etc.. would have noticed any methodological flaw by now that would invalidate the results. We are now directly in the area of their expertise. 40 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said: Concerning Hyman, the wiki entry on remote viewing says, "Hyman also says that the amount and quality of the experiments on RV are way too low to convince the scientific community to "abandon its fundamental ideas about causality, time, and other principles", due to its findings still not having been replicated successfully under careful scrutiny". That seems to provide an explanation for anomalous statistical results. With enough experiments done with reproducibility to produce a one in ten-billion odds against chance, the verdict is in for all practical purposes. As for, science to "abandon its fundamental ideas about causality, time, and other principles" the responsible and conservative parapsychologists and statisticians are NOT EVEN SAYING THIS. What they ARE SAYING is the experimental results in psi have no explanation at this time! The writing might be going on the wall for some dramatic new additions to science but the experiments we are talking about only say something currently unknown by science is occurring. “After a century of increasingly sophisticated investigations and more than a thousand controlled studies with combined odds against chance of 10 to the 104th power to 1, there is now strong evidence that psi phenomena exist. While this is an impressive statistic, all it means is that the outcomes of these experiments are definitely not due to coincidence. We’ve considered other common explanations like selective reporting and variations in experimental quality, and while those factors do moderate the overall results, there can be no little doubt that overall something interesting is going on. It seems increasingly likely that as physics continues to redefine our understanding of the fabric of reality, a theoretical outlook for a rational explanation for psi will eventually be established Dr. Dean Radin Parapsychologist Really read this slowly. Notice Radin is conservative and not calling on science " to abandon its fundamental ideas about causality, time, and other principles". Basically he is just saying that science has a mystery to work on! Edited August 26, 2019 by papageorge1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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