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Starvation in Venezuela is on the rise


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55 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Well, some of them are trying, but Venezuela has formally refused aide (food etc) to enter the country, on the basis that it is being used as a political weapon. 

Food from their neighbouring countries are a political weapon? Do the people who are starving see it that way or is it those who have the money who do? 

I feel for those normal people who have been affected by the corruption by the top officials. 

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How can all this hunger happen in a Socialist nation?  The government is supposed to provide for all and it is the ultimate authority.  What to do... what to do??

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22 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

Hey, don't you worry none. After you come in here unwittingly celebrating Perez Jimenez I don't expect much from you at all.

It better be "unwittingly" because I don't even know who he is.

but keep sniping.

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7 hours ago, freetoroam said:

Food from their neighbouring countries are a political weapon? Do the people who are starving see it that way or is it those who have the money who do? 

I feel for those normal people who have been affected by the corruption by the top officials. 

food is always used as a political tool either by foreign country that is providing it, or local gvmnt by withholding it, and not distributing,  which is what we see happening in Africa over and over again,  and pretty much everywhere.  my wife tells me when ussr fell apart Germany and usa were supplying food, but that food was never distributed, not a single box, not a single bag, all was stolen by criminals and sold on the market, then after gvmnt confiscated it from some thieves, they took it to a land fill and ran buldozers over it. in neither case food was distributed to people,. but every can, or box had a large clear label who supplied it,   she tells me trays of chicken legs were  sold at markets, the same trays that came from usa as a humanitarian aid,  and everyone called then bush's legs.  lol 

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9 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Hmm.. a thought occurs to me. 

Before we rush to blame socialism for Venezuala's ills, you should also consider the political instability in that country, allied with the seemingly endemic corruption and cronyism. 

I'm sure socialism is to blame, but it may not be SOLEY to blame. 

I agree. The US is using economic means against Ven much like they do against Cuba. those things contribute.

But let's flip it. Let Cuba, NKorea, Ven et al try to boycott the US to harm the nation. Can't happen because our economy is too robust, which implies to us that those aforementioned countries are weakies to begin with.

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8 hours ago, freetoroam said:

Ok I do not know the full politics on this. I see the sanctions and obviously this is hitting hard.

But the small people are the ones badly affected here

Bingo!  Thanks, FtR.  this is why I have flipped in recent years about America economically destroying nations just because we are at logger heads with them, politically.

Take Cuba and North Korea. In Cuba, both Castro brothers were billionaires and in fact, right now, one of Fidel's grandsons is a billionaire. And in NKorea, we see a little fat Kim whose net worth is pegged at $5 billion.

No, we will never hurt the very people the US intends to hurt with economic sanctions. We instead, only hurt the people we pretend to be helping.

I have changed. Let communism defuse itself as it always has done. That way, the leaders have no way to blame the US for the people's misery.

 

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20 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

How can all this hunger happen in a Socialist nation?  The government is supposed to provide for all and it is the ultimate authority.  What to do... what to do??

Castro was every bit as much rich as - as an example, any owner of a Major League Baseball franchise, maybe richer than most of them.

In America, ex-Cubano ballplayers make $30 million a year to play the game. In Cuba, they made $2 a week. Yeah, right. And the leftists in the US complain so much about how the rich don't pay their fair share, how ballplayers are just high paid slaves, blah blah blah,

When are the leftists going to start complaining about the *real* wealth disparity in socialist nations, the types of countries they hope the US becomes?

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3 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I agree. The US is using economic means against Ven much like they do against Cuba. those things contribute.

But let's flip it. Let Cuba, NKorea, Ven et al try to boycott the US to harm the nation. Can't happen because our economy is too robust, which implies to us that those aforementioned countries are weakies to begin with.

Weeeell... perhaps @Earl.Of.Trumps. However, the political instability and corruption has been going on for 100 years. This is somewhat prior to the US economic sanctions :P 

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21 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Hmm.. a thought occurs to me. 

Before we rush to blame socialism for Venezuala's ills, you should also consider the political instability in that country, allied with the seemingly endemic corruption and cronyism. 

I'm sure socialism is to blame, but it may not be SOLEY to blame. 

You can blame the "Paradox of Plenty" - in particular,  the "Curse of Oil".

I doubt anyone is determined enough to limit the balance of trade to allow for diversification. 

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