brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #326 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Almost all people are born blind and deaf to God. Edited September 19, 2019 by brian100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #327 Share Posted September 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, Guyver said: No. The universe allowed your parents to exist, either by intention or by accident. So, if not for that, you would not exist. Everyone knows you came from mommy’s tummy. Take it deeper. You would have to define the universe as God to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #328 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 1:46 AM, Alchopwn said: When pulled apart, Faith is the belief in a proposition without evidence. At its most extreme, faith is belief in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary. By and large, it means having confidence in something, and that is the first part of being the victim of deception. Faith is also the foundation of fanaticism. You say that its value is immense. I say it is an immense danger to our continued survival as a species and a dragging anchor on human progress. The placebo effect can take many forms, and to claim the full gamut of the placebo effect for religious faith is disingenuous, as it applies equally to homeopathy and the performances of tribal witch-doctors and other medically questionable pursuits. Its the same as saying all paths lead to death. Do you know how silly that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #329 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 8/28/2019 at 7:36 AM, Desertrat56 said: It looks more like the plank is in your eye. I agree with what @XenoFish said. You don't understand that some people are fine without believing in a god and some people are not. If you need that belief at least be honest that it is a BELIEF, not a FACT. I know there is more to us than our physical being, but that is not proof for anyone and it does not lead me to believe in a judgemental omnipotent being. Its a fact that all roads don't lead to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #330 Share Posted September 19, 2019 So if I was to define God I would call him light. In the beginning there was light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted September 19, 2019 #331 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, brian100 said: Its a fact that all roads don't lead to death. The fact is death is inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #332 Share Posted September 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Rlyeh said: The fact is death is inevitable. Not everything leads to death b/c something lead to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #333 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I'm defining God as light b/c it practically everywhere and life cannot exist without it. Its the fastest thing in the universe also. So where is the lights coming from? When I say light I'm not talking about a light bulb. God said in the beginning there was light. He's speaking about himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #334 Share Posted September 19, 2019 So coming into the light ye shall live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #335 Share Posted September 19, 2019 So that's the smoking gun. God is light. I pointed you science guys in the right direction. I' am the light of the world & and in the beginning there was light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 19, 2019 #336 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Somebody doesn't know what a metaphor is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #337 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Well, if God is light then we know why the universe is existing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #338 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Some people have died & come back and the first thing they said was," I saw a bright light". Doesn't that tickle your fancy even a little? They are also finding out that light can carry information & that life can't exist without it. Edited September 19, 2019 by brian100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 19, 2019 #339 Share Posted September 19, 2019 12 hours ago, brian100 said: Its a fact that all roads don't lead to death. Yes they do. Unless a scientist or scientists have developed ways to become immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 19, 2019 #340 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, XenoFish said: Somebody doesn't know what a metaphor is. This certain someone doesn't seem to know what reason and logic is. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #341 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said: Yes they do. Unless a scientist or scientists have developed ways to become immortal. No one of road leads to all this life around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 19, 2019 #342 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, brian100 said: No one of road leads to all this life around you. Depends what's your definition of "road". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 19, 2019 #343 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said: This certain someone doesn't seem to know what reason and logic is. There seem to be a few like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 19, 2019 #344 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: There seem to be a few like that. 91.3% agree 8.7% hoax or faked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 19, 2019 #345 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said: 91.3% agree 8.7% hoax or faked. I'll take those odds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted September 19, 2019 #346 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, brian100 said: I'm defining God as light b/c it practically everywhere and life cannot exist without it. Its the fastest thing in the universe also. Actually life can and does exist without light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #347 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Rlyeh said: Actually life can and does exist without light. You may not see any light, but that doesn't mean its not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #348 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, ThereWeAreThen said: Depends what's your definition of "road". road=path=means or way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 20, 2019 #349 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Its quite plausible that if you find the mechanism for light (the stars) that you will have discovered God. Nobody can see what's on the other side, but some people do come back and tell us. "I saw a bright light!" So don't be too sure there is no God. First define God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted September 20, 2019 #350 Share Posted September 20, 2019 21 hours ago, brian100 said: You would have to define the universe as God to say that. Not really. If the universe is not intelligent it can’t be defined as God in the sense that most people accept because God is considered by so many as the Supreme Being with supreme intelligence. I mean from a western mindset. The Buddhists don’t consider the universe in that way. The universe, to a materialist is only God in the sense that it is the thing that caused their creation. But it was unintentional like a flood, or a stubbed toe. In that sense I guess it’s easy to see why some of them consider existence meaningless. I believe that meaning exists because we ascribe it. Therefore, meaning is as we humans consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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