stevewinn Posted September 5, 2019 #351 Share Posted September 5, 2019 General Election they shouted. Let the people decide. Then when a GE was offered the Remainers **** themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted September 5, 2019 #352 Share Posted September 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, bee said: Either a Parliament / Government is timed out (every 5 years) or if an election is called early it has to be supported by 2/3 of MPs... oh and there's the No Confidence thing... https://www.parliament.uk/education/about-your-parliament/general-elections/ A motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed Do you predict that brexit will be delayed then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 5, 2019 #353 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, RAyMO said: whats the timing got to do with his support for it. Try the weight of the office of the president of the United States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted September 5, 2019 #354 Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, bee said: errr... no deal, deal or remain as 3 options on a 2nd referendum would be a stitch up.... that's exactly what Remainers would want... to split the leave vote... lol... i bet you do - that's not shocking at all... see what I said above.. eventually wangling a 2nd referendum with those three options would be very acceptable to Remainers.. I suppose reducing it to deal or remain would be the ultimate stitch up and it looks like the sneaky bleeps are setting the scene for that... there was always going to be major problems with so many Remain MPs and they have a damn cheek trying to take No Deal off the table and enshrine it in law... but a 2nd referendum (stitch up) will be their ultimate aim because that's the only way Remaining becomes legitimized - Also see what I said above re. alternative vote. Then see someone about that paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted September 5, 2019 #355 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, stevewinn said: General Election they shouted. Let the people decide. Then when a GE was offered the Remainers **** themselves. 2nd referendum is what remainers have actually been demanding. But don't let facts get in the way, *snip*. Edited September 5, 2019 by Kismit I believe the point has been made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchwood Posted September 5, 2019 #356 Share Posted September 5, 2019 22 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: See you fell for the Guardian B*****ks. (p.s. where are the 'brown people' in europe) I have no idea what point you think you've made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchwood Posted September 5, 2019 #357 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 hours ago, stevewinn said: General Election they shouted. Let the people decide. Then when a GE was offered the Remainers **** themselves. This is priceless, Corbyn spent the whole of yesterday kicking Johnson round the commons , and everyone else got a chance to put the boot in. He's got Johnson on the hook and theres no reason to let him off. a GE is Corbyns whenever he wants and all Johnson can do is beg and plead and lie and stand there waving his hands and muttering " phor, mwurrr, warhar!, I told 'em, dufflecoats I said! BRRRrR! Crisps....mumblemumblemumble....wuderderderwurrrr, millenium hand and shrimp! " to himself like a drunken tramp under a bridge... I hope Corbyn lets Johnson squirm for a good long while. Give the Tories chance to stew in Johnsons stupidity and tear themselves apart, a just punishment for the harm theyve done to this country. People have told me for years they think under all that ridiculous bluster that there's a real leader in Boris. Ive never believed it, and now Boris is proving it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted September 5, 2019 #358 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 hours ago, OverSword said: Try the weight of the office of the president of the United States and since being in that office he has consistently supported Brexit, indeed the harder the better and also encouraging other EU countries to indulge in their own form of Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted September 5, 2019 #359 Share Posted September 5, 2019 56 minutes ago, RAyMO said: and since being in that office he has consistently supported Brexit, indeed the harder the better and also encouraging other EU countries to indulge in their own form of Brexit. It's actually very convenient that Trump keeps blathering against the EU. If there's any imbecile around me, in real life (Internet trolls are a different story) stupid enough to bring up the possibility of leaving the EU, it's enough to point out that it's something Trump thinks is a wonderful idea. Apparently, some Americans can't fathom this, but Trump is an epitome of intellectual wrongness. To put it nicely. Like I said, it's very convenient. Instead of explaining a lot, you just have to inform people that certain stupidity is something Trump advertises around and they instantly back down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted September 5, 2019 #360 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Setton said: 2nd referendum is what remainers have actually been demanding. But don't let facts get in the way, *snip*. A general election at this point would be as good as a second referendum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted September 5, 2019 #361 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Torchwood said: This is priceless, Corbyn spent the whole of yesterday kicking Johnson round the commons , and everyone else got a chance to put the boot in. He's got Johnson on the hook and theres no reason to let him off. a GE is Corbyns whenever he wants and all Johnson can do is beg and plead and lie and stand there waving his hands and muttering " phor, mwurrr, warhar!, I told 'em, dufflecoats I said! BRRRrR! Crisps....mumblemumblemumble....wuderderderwurrrr, millenium hand and shrimp! " to himself like a drunken tramp under a bridge... I hope Corbyn lets Johnson squirm for a good long while. Give the Tories chance to stew in Johnsons stupidity and tear themselves apart, a just punishment for the harm theyve done to this country. People have told me for years they think under all that ridiculous bluster that there's a real leader in Boris. Ive never believed it, and now Boris is proving it! Corbyn and the labour party are cowards, a general election is as good as a referendum at this point in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted September 5, 2019 #362 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Torchwood said: I have no idea what point you think you've made. Then let me explain. People like you have been persuaded by the likes of the Guardian & BBC that everyone that voted brexit do so to stop 'brown people' as you put it, coming into the country, if that's the case then can you tell me from which country in europe these 'brown people' come from? Edited September 5, 2019 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted September 5, 2019 #363 Share Posted September 5, 2019 What's the point of keep kicking this down the road another extension will leave us in exactly the same place as we have been for 3 years, the EU won't give us a deal that doesn't leave us as a vassal state with no say whatsoever because they don't have to, we have to have a general election to sort it out one way or the other, 'IT CAN'T CARRY ON' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted September 5, 2019 #364 Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 hours ago, spartan max2 said: Do you predict that brexit will be delayed then? I really don't see how another delay can be avoided as the Remain MPs are bringing the whole thing to deadlock (again) waiting for the opportunity to force in a 2nd referendum .... but we shall see.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted September 5, 2019 #365 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Setton said: Also see what I said above re. alternative vote. Then see someone about that paranoia. It's politics not paranoia.... and that's why the General Public are peed off with politics and politicians.. too much deceit and underhand maneuvering - 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted September 5, 2019 #366 Share Posted September 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, hetrodoxly said: What's the point of keep kicking this down the road another extension will leave us in exactly the same place as we have been for 3 years, the EU won't give us a deal that doesn't leave us as a vassal state with no say whatsoever because they don't have to, we have to have a general election to sort it out one way or the other, 'IT CAN'T CARRY ON' I have a plan..... if the public really wanted to show Parliament and MPs who was boss....( ie the people / voters...) we could get rid of almost the lot of them at the next general election - Leave camp could vote for the Brexit Party - Remain camp could vote for the Lib Dems... and Hey Presto... a new chapter of British Politics .... voters have to get off the Lab / Con merry~go~round for that to happen though... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted September 5, 2019 #367 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bee said: I have a plan..... if the public really wanted to show Parliament and MPs who was boss....( ie the people / voters...) we could get rid of almost the lot of them at the next general election - Leave camp could vote for the Brexit Party - Remain camp could vote for the Lib Dems... and Hey Presto... a new chapter of British Politics .... voters have to get off the Lab / Con merry~go~round for that to happen though... Thats my plan. And I suspect many others (see EU election results) and that's why Corbyn is s**t scared of having one. Edited September 5, 2019 by itsnotoutthere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted September 5, 2019 #368 Share Posted September 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, bee said: I have a plan..... if the public really wanted to show Parliament and MPs who was boss....( ie the people / voters...) we could get rid of almost the lot of them at the next general election - Leave camp could vote for the Brexit Party - Remain camp could vote for the Lib Dems... and Hey Presto... a new chapter of British Politics .... voters have to get off the Lab / Con merry~go~round for that to happen though... That's a cunning plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 5, 2019 #369 Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 hours ago, stevewinn said: General Election they shouted. Let the people decide. Then when a GE was offered the Remainers **** themselves. You mean like the Tories proposing a no confidence vote in order to lose and force an election? Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 5, 2019 #370 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, bee said: I have a plan..... if the public really wanted to show Parliament and MPs who was boss....( ie the people / voters...) we could get rid of almost the lot of them at the next general election - Leave camp could vote for the Brexit Party - Remain camp could vote for the Lib Dems... and Hey Presto... a new chapter of British Politics .... voters have to get off the Lab / Con merry~go~round for that to happen though... I think Boris is one step ahead of you as he proceeds to single handedly destroy the Tory party with his No-Deal shenanigans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBright19 Posted September 5, 2019 #371 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Would the government be willing to call a new referendum with two simple choices? Leave with a deal Leave without a deal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 5, 2019 #372 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Aaron2016 said: Would the government be willing to call a new referendum with two simple choices? Leave with a deal Leave without a deal The Boris Johnson administration has lost all control of brexit. Its the parliament thats in the drivers seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBright19 Posted September 5, 2019 #373 Share Posted September 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: The Boris Johnson administration has lost all control of brexit. Its the parliament thats in the drivers seat. Maybe an early General election could be called with each party offering a key choice? Cons - Leave with / without a deal Labs - Leave with a bad deal Libs - Remain Trouble is, how on Earth do any of them get a majority for any proposal in the house? I recall earlier this year Kenneth Clarke offered a proposal for a softer Brexit that almost passed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted September 5, 2019 #374 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 hours ago, hetrodoxly said: A general election at this point would be as good as a second referendum. A couple of pages ago we were hearing how a general election couldn't be used as a measure of public opinion on Brexit. Do please make your mind up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted September 5, 2019 #375 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, bee said: It's politics not paranoia.... and that's why the General Public are peed off with politics and politicians.. too much deceit and underhand maneuvering - Says the one supporting Johnson, whose tactics and goals we know the public do not support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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