Eldorado Posted September 10, 2019 #1 Share Posted September 10, 2019 "The United States has debated immigration since the country's founding, and the Statue of Liberty—a potent symbol for immigrants—is often invoked as an argument for why we should usher in those who seek safety and opportunity with open arms. "A little-known fact about Lady Liberty adds an intriguing twist to today's debate about refugees from the Muslim world: As pointed out by The Daily Beast’s Michael Daly in a recent op-ed, the statue itself was originally intended to represent a female Egyptian peasant as a Colossus of Rhodes for the Industrial Age." Full article at the Smithsonian: : https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/statue-liberty-was-originally-muslim-woman-180957377/#31jM0vCeIHlRirzz.99 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted September 10, 2019 #2 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Well this is a surprise! Edited September 10, 2019 by Scholar4Truth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 10, 2019 #3 Share Posted September 10, 2019 About three years late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted September 11, 2019 #4 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Eldorado said: "The United States has debated immigration since the country's founding, and the Statue of Liberty—a potent symbol for immigrants—is often invoked as an argument for why we should usher in those who seek safety and opportunity with open arms. "A little-known fact about Lady Liberty adds an intriguing twist to today's debate about refugees from the Muslim world: As pointed out by The Daily Beast’s Michael Daly in a recent op-ed, the statue itself was originally intended to represent a female Egyptian peasant as a Colossus of Rhodes for the Industrial Age." Full article at the Smithsonian: : https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/statue-liberty-was-originally-muslim-woman-180957377/#31jM0vCeIHlRirzz.99 That's very interesting, never heard this before 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Not A Rockstar Posted September 11, 2019 #5 Share Posted September 11, 2019 She does not appear to be wearing a burka to me, but being inspired by and first envisioned as an Egyptian woman before being commissioned for a different placement and possibly changed doesn't seem huge. Not sure that "Liberty" has a specific culture or racial origin. I guess if I ever thought about it, I assumed she was wearing something inspired from ancient Greece. If it is a burka, that is sort of unexpected. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted September 11, 2019 #6 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Not A Rockstar said: She does not appear to be wearing a burka to me, but being inspired by and first envisioned as an Egyptian woman before being commissioned for a different placement and possibly changed doesn't seem huge. Not sure that "Liberty" has a specific culture or racial origin. I guess if I ever thought about it, I assumed she was wearing something inspired from ancient Greece. If it is a burka, that is sort of unexpected. I always thought she was a Victorian portrayal of Isis using the Roman model. That's whose crown she is wearing. Edited September 11, 2019 by Piney **** Atlantis 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 11, 2019 #7 Share Posted September 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Not A Rockstar said: Not sure that "Liberty" has a specific culture It may not have one today but its ORIGINAL culture was distinctly American. It's why, despite the faults of this country, it is still the most sought after residence on the planet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 11, 2019 #8 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Okay, EL, I realize GB has a lot of "undocumented" types thronging to get in but, really? OUR tide of illegals makes yours paltry by comparison 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 11, 2019 #9 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Piney said: I always thought she was a Victorian portrayal of Isis using the Roman model. That's whose crown she is wearing. I read an intriguing piece that mentioned she was a depiction of Semiramis. Nasty piece of work, that. Edited September 11, 2019 by and then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 11, 2019 #10 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Not A Rockstar said: If it is a burka, that is sort of unexpected. WHAT? If so, that biotch is guilty of cultural appropriation! Down she comes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taun Posted September 11, 2019 #11 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I always assumed she was a version of Columbia Goddess of Liberty (a version of the Roman Libertas)... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted September 11, 2019 #12 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I always read it was a robed Roman liberty goddess. Quote Originally conceived as an emblem of the friendship between the people of France and the U.S. and a sign of their mutual desire for liberty, There is no reason why the French would give the Americans a statue of a muslim woman. Hence, they did not. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 11, 2019 #13 Share Posted September 11, 2019 nope she is not a Muslim, it is a LIE Quote The Statue of Liberty is a figure of Libertas, a robed Roman liberty goddess. Quote Libertas (Latin for Liberty) is the Roman goddess and personification of liberty. She became a politicised figure in the Late Republic, featuring on coins supporting the populares faction, and later those of the assassins of Julius Caesar. Nonetheless, she sometimes appears on coins from the imperial period, such as Galba's "Freedom of the People" coins during his short reign after the death of Nero.[1] Her two usual attributes are the rod and the soft pileus, which she holds out, rather than wears. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted September 11, 2019 Author #14 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, aztek said: nope she is not a Muslim, it is a LIE He liked ladies in robes. "....in the late 1860s, he approached Isma'il Pasha, Khedive of Egypt, with a plan to build Progress or Egypt Carrying the Light to Asia, a huge lighthouse in the form of an ancient Egyptian female fellah or peasant, robed and holding a torch aloft, at the northern entrance to the Suez Canal in Port Said." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty "In the 1880s Bartholdi designed and built his colossal Liberty Enlightening the World, a robed female figure bearing a torch, which became known as the Statue of Liberty." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt_Carrying_the_Light_to_Asia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 11, 2019 #15 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Just now, Eldorado said: He liked ladies in robes. "....in the late 1860s, he approached Isma'il Pasha, Khedive of Egypt, with a plan to build Progress or Egypt Carrying the Light to Asia, a huge lighthouse in the form of an ancient Egyptian female fellah or peasant, robed and holding a torch aloft, at the northern entrance to the Suez Canal in Port Said." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty "In the 1880s Bartholdi designed and built his colossal Liberty Enlightening the World, a robed female figure bearing a torch, which became known as the Statue of Liberty." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt_Carrying_the_Light_to_Asia well statue of liberty is NOT an Egyptian female, it is roman goddess, that much is clear, idk what you trying to prove here, but good luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted September 11, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Just now, aztek said: well statue of liberty is NOT an Egyptian female, it is roman goddess, that much is clear, idk what you trying to prove here, but good luck I'm not trying to prove anything, merely showing you where they got their ammo from. The articles in the media are just the Left rattling the chains of the Right, that's why this thread is here in the offbeat forum. A very obvious wind-up... that worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 11, 2019 #17 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eldorado said: I'm not trying to prove anything, merely showing you where they got their ammo from. The articles in the media are just the Left rattling the chains of the Right, that's why this thread is here in the offbeat forum. A very obvious wind-up... that worked! it looks a lot like flame baiting and trolling Quote We define 'trolling' as the act of posting intentionally false, controversial or offensive comments designed to start arguments or to provoke, bait or annoy other members. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted September 11, 2019 #18 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Interesting re-writing of history, but.. NO.. it was not a muslim, or an egyptian peasant. The ORIGINAL concept was. The statue (which was never built) was to have stood at the beginning of the Suez Canal. However, the local authorities turned the idea down, and it was never built. So the original designer re-imagined the statue when he created the Statue of Liberty, which was neither Egyptian or Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted September 12, 2019 #19 Share Posted September 12, 2019 If you want to get technical about it, it's modeled after the sculptor's mom, who was Alsatian German. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted September 12, 2019 #20 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Funnily enough, the statue looks nothing like a dog... ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted September 12, 2019 #21 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Oniomancer said: If you want to get technical about it, it's modeled after the sculptor's mom, who was Alsatian German. Alsatian ? What.. she was a dog ? Oh b*****... @third_eye beat me to it.... Edited September 12, 2019 by RoofGardener 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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