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Davros of Skaro

Mistakes in Quran?

Does Quran contain miraculous knowledge?  

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  1. 1. Does Quran contain miraculous knowledge?

    • Yes: It's self evident
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    • No: it refutes it's self
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    • Maybe: It depends on how it's translated
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    • Don't know, or care
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    • Is this a joke?
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Davros of Skaro

Does the Quran contain mistakes, or does it display knowledge that's proof of divine authorship?

 

 Yes Mistakes:

 

No mistakes, and proof of miraculous knowledge:

 

Quran (Pickthall)

"004.082 Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an ? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity."

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Davros of Skaro
35 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

How does a work of fiction contain 'mistakes'?

See 5:45-6:40 of second video.

You deny this proof?

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Buzz_Light_Year
6 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

See 5:45-6:40 of second video.

You deny this proof?

Yes...Next!

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ChrLzs
6 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

See 5:45-6:40 of second video.

NO.  Present it here in your own words.

6 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

You deny this proof?

Proof?   Really?  Do elaborate, don't lazily point me to a flippin YT video.

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Davros of Skaro
8 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

NO.  Present it here in your own words.

Proof?   Really?  Do elaborate, don't lazily point me to a flippin YT video.

55 seconds.

Whose lazy?

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hetrodoxly
27 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

See 5:45-6:40 of second video.

You deny this proof?

It's cow poo, a book that predicts things after they've happened is probably the most useless book ever written. 

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Davros of Skaro
5 minutes ago, hetrodoxly said:

It's cow poo, a book that predicts things after they've happened is probably the most useless book ever written. 

You are thinking of corrupt Bible. The noble Quran is most perfect, and final revelation. Yes.

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Davros of Skaro
35 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Yes...Next!

Photosynthesis, and Transpiration.

How can anyone 1,400 years ago know, and detail a process science even today does not fully understand?

Quran (Pickthall)

"018.045 And coin for them the similitude of the life of the world as water which We send down from the sky, and the vegetation of the earth mingleth with it and then becometh dry twigs that the winds scatter. Allah is able to do all things."

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Piney
2 hours ago, Davros of Skaro said:

Does the Quran contain mistakes, or does it display knowledge that's proof of divine authorship?

I voted "Is this a Joke?" just to be a dick.

 

The Koran has the oldest account of Jesus's birth before all the embellishments were added. I respect it for that. 

 

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Davros of Skaro

How can someone 1,400 years ago know that one cannot see a full moon during the day?

"19: Which phases of the moon can we see during the day?

Answer: Actually, you can see all of them except for the phases new and full. So, the phases you can see during the day are: waxing crescent, first quarter, waxing gibbous, waning gibbous, last quarter, and waning crescent. For the moon to be visible during the day, it must be up in the sky at the same time as the sun, but not so close to the sun in the sky that you can't see it. The full moon rises at sunset, is up all night, and sets at sunrise, so you can't see a full moon in the daytime. And for a few days closest to new moon, the moon is too close to the sun in the sky, and the phase is too thin for you to see."

https://planetarium.madison.k12.wi.us/mooncal/moonfaq.htm

 

Quran (Pickthall)


"084.016 Oh, I swear by the afterglow of sunset, 
084.017 And by the night and all that it enshroudeth, 
084.018 And by the moon when she is at the full,"

 

Most miraculous. Yes.

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Piney
1 minute ago, Davros of Skaro said:

How can someone 1,400 years ago know that one cannot see a full moon during the day?

Observation......

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Davros of Skaro
6 minutes ago, Piney said:

Observation......

How can someone 1,400 years ago not only know, but describe in detail the mass extinction of the dinosaurs? The asteroid that caused a nuclear winter that led to massive die offs.

Quran (Pickthall)

"024.043 Hast thou not seen how Allah wafteth the clouds, then gathereth them, then maketh them layers, and thou seest the rain come forth from between them; He sendeth down from the heaven mountains wherein is hail, and smiteth therewith whom He will, and averteth it from whom He will. The flashing of His lightning all but snatcheth away the sight."

 

Most miraculous the unbelievers deny. Yes.
 

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Piney
3 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

How can someone 1,400 years ago not only know, but describe in detail the mass extinction of the dinosaurs? The asteroid that caused a nuclear winter that led to massive die offs.

Quran (Pickthall)

"024.043 Hast thou not seen how Allah wafteth the clouds, then gathereth them, then maketh them layers, and thou seest the rain come forth from between them; He sendeth down from the heaven mountains wherein is hail, and smiteth therewith whom He will, and averteth it from whom He will. The flashing of His lightning all but snatcheth away the sight."

Oh, that's some serious "mass comparison". It doesn't say it caused any harm to animals. People always saw meteor showers though. Some collected them

"The Rouran wait for the showers of iron, then gather it to make their weapons"- Bamboo Annuals

Then we have the PIE origin of the Phaeton story and the Uralic story when Ukko asked for a new sun to be made- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater

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10 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

How can someone 1,400 years ago not only know, but describe in detail the mass extinction of the dinosaurs? The asteroid that caused a nuclear winter that led to massive die offs.

Quran (Pickthall)

"024.043 Hast thou not seen how Allah wafteth the clouds, then gathereth them, then maketh them layers, and thou seest the rain come forth from between them; He sendeth down from the heaven mountains wherein is hail, and smiteth therewith whom He will, and averteth it from whom He will. The flashing of His lightning all but snatcheth away the sight."

 

Most miraculous the unbelievers deny. Yes.
 

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They can't as humans didn't exist 65 million years ago. And that's not evidence of the dinosaur extinction in any case as it's just a general description of an aerial conflagration. There are any number of reasons for aerial bombardment, from meteoric to volcanic. 

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Davros of Skaro
3 minutes ago, Piney said:

Oh, that's some serious "mass comparison". It doesn't say it caused any harm to animals. People always saw meteor showers though. Some collected them

"The Rouran wait for the showers of iron, then gather it to make their weapons"- Bamboo Annuals

Then we have the PIE origin of the Phaeton story and the Uralic story when Ukko asked for a new sun to be made- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater

 

1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

They can't as humans didn't exist 65 million years ago. And that's not evidence of the dinosaur extinction in any case as it's just a general description of an aerial conflagration. There are any number of reasons for aerial bombardment, from meteoric to volcanic. 

cormac

How did someone know 1,400 years ago that earthquakes are caused by shifting land plates?

 

Quran (Pickthall)

 

"067.016 Have ye taken security from Him Who is in the heaven that He will not cause the earth to swallow you when lo! it is convulsed?"

 

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Noble Quran explains your unbelief. Yes.

 

https://www.islamicity.org/quransearch/action.lasso.asp?-db=Quran&-lay=tblMasterTranslit&-format=SReply1.asp&-op=cn&Topics=2351&-token=Unbelievers:hearts are sealed<!--English,-->||<ta>false</ta><tt>false</tt><ts>true</ts><dc>false</dc><tx>true</tx><al>true</al>&-Sortorder=ascend&-Sortfield=cv&-find

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Imaginarynumber1

This is thread is a joke, right?

I mean, we're not expected to actually take this seriously, are we?

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hetrodoxly
1 hour ago, Davros of Skaro said:

You are thinking of corrupt Bible. The noble Quran is most perfect, and final revelation. Yes.

Which Quran are you referring to? 

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Piney
15 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

How did someone know 1,400 years ago that earthquakes are caused by shifting land plates?

The Mayan knew it. They explain it for earthquakes and fossil sea life on mountains in their codexes. 

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Davros of Skaro
4 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said:

This is thread is a joke, right?

I mean, we're not expected to actually take this seriously, are we?

Do you deny evolution? How can someone 1,400 years ago know this?

 

Quran (Pickthall)

 

"056.058 Have ye seen that which ye emit ? 
056.059 Do ye create it or are We the Creator ? 
056.060 We mete out death among you, and We are not to be outrun, 
056.061 That We may transfigure you and make you what ye know not. 
056.062 And verily ye know the first creation. Why, then, do ye not reflect?"

 

"006.133 Thy Lord is the Absolute, the Lord of Mercy. If He will, He can remove you and can cause what He will to follow after you, even as He raised you from the seed of other folk."

 

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Quran (Pickthall)

 

"024.045 Allah hath created every animal of water. Of them is (a kind) that goeth upon its belly and (a kind) that goeth upon two legs and (a kind) that goeth upon four. Allah createth what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things. "

 

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Noble Quran is most miraculous. Yes. 

 

Unbelievers still deny.

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Imaginarynumber1
1 minute ago, Davros of Skaro said:

Do you deny evolution? How can someone 1,400 years ago know this?

 

Quran (Pickthall)

 

"056.058 Have ye seen that which ye emit ? 
056.059 Do ye create it or are We the Creator ? 
056.060 We mete out death among you, and We are not to be outrun, 
056.061 That We may transfigure you and make you what ye know not. 
056.062 And verily ye know the first creation. Why, then, do ye not reflect?"

 

"006.133 Thy Lord is the Absolute, the Lord of Mercy. If He will, He can remove you and can cause what He will to follow after you, even as He raised you from the seed of other folk."

 

0658ebee070d920d04ccf3dc007278d8.gif

 

Quran (Pickthall)

 

"024.045 Allah hath created every animal of water. Of them is (a kind) that goeth upon its belly and (a kind) that goeth upon two legs and (a kind) that goeth upon four. Allah createth what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things. "

 

Fishapods.png

 

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Noble Quran is most miraculous. Yes. 

 

Unbelievers still deny.

Yeah, this is clearly another troll thread

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Davros of Skaro
5 minutes ago, hetrodoxly said:

Which Quran are you referring to? 

The final revelation from the one true Creator.

1 minute ago, Piney said:

The Mayan knew it. They explain it for earthquakes and fossil sea life on mountains in their codexes. 

They must have been Muslim. Yes.

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hetrodoxly
4 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

The final revelation from the one true Creator.

 

You mean the 1923 Hafs Quran then, what about the other 25 different ones we know of?

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hetrodoxly
9 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

Do you deny evolution? How can someone 1,400 years ago know this?

 

Quran (Pickthall)

 

"056.058 Have ye seen that which ye emit ? 
056.059 Do ye create it or are We the Creator ? 
056.060 We mete out death among you, and We are not to be outrun, 
056.061 That We may transfigure you and make you what ye know not. 
056.062 And verily ye know the first creation. Why, then, do ye not reflect?"

 

"006.133 Thy Lord is the Absolute, the Lord of Mercy. If He will, He can remove you and can cause what He will to follow after you, even as He raised you from the seed of other folk."

 

0658ebee070d920d04ccf3dc007278d8.gif

 

Quran (Pickthall)

 

"024.045 Allah hath created every animal of water. Of them is (a kind) that goeth upon its belly and (a kind) that goeth upon two legs and (a kind) that goeth upon four. Allah createth what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things. "

 

Fishapods.png

 

12052_2009_135_Fig27_HTML.gif

 

Noble Quran is most miraculous. Yes. 

 

Unbelievers still deny.

What happened to Adam? who by the way was 90 meters tall that must have been a bit tough for Eve.

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Black Red Devil

I couldn't get past 2 min 23 sec of the second video.

Ants are similar to humans predicted by the Quran.  Want proof? A. ants bury their dead similar to humans, C. they get together to chat once in a while , E. they exchange goods in markets.

 What a crock, next time I squash an ant (for the faint hearted it'll be obviously unintentionally) I'll keep an eye out for the funeral.

 

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