BrooklynGuy Posted September 18, 2019 #51 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: Trump Administration Casually Admits Coal Plan Will Kill 1,400 Americans a Year So I can take that to mean youre voting anybody but Trump this time around? This just in, the Trumpster has taken the unprecedented step of putting an emissions tax on Farmer, a notorious flatulence emitter, for his continued postings of CNN talking points. BTW don't forget to update your FF rosters, Brees in out 4-6 weeks. Good luck this weekend. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted September 18, 2019 #52 Share Posted September 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, BrooklynGuy said: BTW don't forget to update your FF rosters, Brees in out 4-6 weeks. Good luck this weekend. Gad ive been TERRIBLE so far in three different leagues! I havent even started trying to fill the holes left by Brees and Rothlisberger yet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 18, 2019 #53 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, OverSword said: @the13bats confused? Listen close brother. When the police and prosecutors are trying to get a case off the books and they want you to take a lie detector test it’s because they think you’re guilty. If you pass it, then they think you’ve fooled the machine. Google HRC’s thoughts on lie detector tests from her days as a defense attorney. If you are involved in a police investigation, weather it be murder or a traffic stop in which they think you have pot in the vehicle, and they ask you if they can do something such as search you or your property the answer is always no. If they ask you to volunteer for something such as a lie detector test or a dna sample the answer is always no. Even if you’re innocent. Especially if you’re innocent. They are asking because they’re fishing and if they ask it’s because they don’t have a good enough reason to do it. If they have a good reason or probable cause they will not ask. If they find something they weren’t looking for while fishing then they will happily ruin your life over that instead. Always insist they jump through every legal hoop and never answer questions without a lawyer present no matter what they say. great further derail, this isnt about personal opinions about photographs its about potus refusing to release his taxes, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 18, 2019 #54 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) he does not have to, that is all there is to it. not to mention he WASN"T subpoenaed, it was accounting agency that did the taxes. Edited September 18, 2019 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 18, 2019 #55 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, the13bats said: great further derail, this isnt about personal opinions about photographs its about potus refusing to release his taxes, You gave a confused reaction to a post I explained it in detail. Besides this thread is a nothing burger, it’s not even federal government. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 18, 2019 #56 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Farmer77 said: LOL please do go on and continue to explain your love for America and concern for her security some more Save that drama for Broadway sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted September 18, 2019 Author #57 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 hours ago, BrooklynGuy said: Hanky and Odious, I know you two are scared sh!tless of America, it's ok all the gutless cowards like yourselves are. Not to worry America will continue to rid the world of those trying to kill us, so you and the rest of the folks can live freely and enjoy the lives they have built. Look out, the monkey in the cage is throwing feces. Cute little monkey. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 18, 2019 #58 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, OverSword said: You gave a confused reaction to a post I explained it in detail. Besides this thread is a nothing burger, it’s not even federal government. of course the potus refusing to release his taxes is nothing to some people 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted September 18, 2019 Author #59 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, the13bats said: of course the potus refusing to release his taxes is nothing to some people The lame excuses are pretty telling. Just to stick it to the libs? The man has the intelligence of a potato. We're talking about a guy who used a sharpie to change a weather map to back up his idiotic Alabama mistake and expects America to believe him. Yeah, a real mental giant. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted September 18, 2019 Author #60 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What kind of people think it's ok to support a sitting president of the United States who's whole platform seems to be dividing Americans for political puposes? Is this heathy democracy at work? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 18, 2019 #61 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, the13bats said: of course the potus refusing to release his taxes is nothing to some people considering who is asking, and for what purpose, yes. it is absolutely nothing. in fact that is how it should be. of course, unlawful and unconstitutional demands are nothing to some people Edited September 18, 2019 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 18, 2019 #62 Share Posted September 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, aztek said: considering who is asking, and for what purpose, yes. it is absolutely nothing. in fact that is how it should be. of course, unlawful and unconstitutional demands are nothing to some people i admit im ignorant to politics but was under the impression a potus had to release his taxes, all others have correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 18, 2019 #63 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, the13bats said: i admit im ignorant to politics but was under the impression a potus had to release his taxes, all others have correct? nope, not required by law, some presidents did released them voluntarily , but they did not have to, and they only gave up those filed while in the office , not before, IRS also can not provide them either, by law, unless to an authorized person, but my guess is whoever is asking are not such people, or they would go straight to irs, and would already have them Edited September 18, 2019 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 18, 2019 #64 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 11:41 PM, the13bats said: so what is he hiding in his taxes He has no DUTY to the public to make those tax records known. If he has broken tax laws he should be prosecuted just like any other citizen but he should not have to appear before judges to defend himself while he holds office. I think anyone with half a brain and the tiniest bit of integrity will look at the last three years of hysteria and relentless, completely OPEN attempts to remove him from office and judge that this is just another in that line. Those who support him are angry about the treatment the Left have ginned up and a time is coming when the **** is going to get up in the fan for ALL OF US. There will be no innocents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 18, 2019 #65 Share Posted September 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, and then said: He has no DUTY to the public to make those tax records known. If he has broken tax laws he should be prosecuted just like any other citizen but he should not have to appear before judges to defend himself while he holds office. I think anyone with half a brain and the tiniest bit of integrity will look at the last three years of hysteria and relentless, completely OPEN attempts to remove him from office and judge that this is just another in that line. Those who support him are angry about the treatment the Left have ginned up and a time is coming when the **** is going to get up in the fan for ALL OF US. There will be no innocents. Speaking of tiniest bit on intergrity. You realize this is just a continuation of the investigation that got his personal lawyer put in jail for paying off the pornstar and playboy model that he was cheating on his third wife with and then paying off in violation of campaign election law. It has nothing to do with impeaching him. It's state level stuff and stuff that has been going on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted September 19, 2019 Author #66 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, aztek said: nope, not required by law, some presidents did released them voluntarily , but they did not have to, and they only gave up those filed while in the office , not before, IRS also can not provide them either, by law, unless to an authorized person, but my guess is whoever is asking are not such people, or they would go straight to irs, and would already have them You mean like the house requesting them? Been there, done that. Trumps army of lawyers are hard at work trying to block every request. Your post is disingenuously false once again. Edited September 19, 2019 by Hankenhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 19, 2019 #67 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Hankenhunter said: The lame excuses are pretty telling. Just to stick it to the libs? The man has the intelligence of a potato. We're talking about a guy who used a sharpie to change a weather map to back up his idiotic Alabama mistake and expects America to believe him. Yeah, a real mental giant. This is why people get tired of others that keep harping about something when they don't have all the facts. Having friends in the path of that hurricane I watched it closely. Here is an actual news report from before Trump used his sharpie. Notice the trajectory. https://www.newsweek.com/hurricane-dorian-update-current-location-major-storm-florida-category-3-1456746 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted September 19, 2019 #68 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, the13bats said: i admit im ignorant to politics but was under the impression a potus had to release his taxes, all others have correct? All others have because they had nothing to hide. You would think the one person that WOULD HAVE TO release them considering all the 'suspicious allegations' thrown his way since becoming POTUS would be Trump. Considering the Presidential elections are approaching it would also be a wise move considering the polls showing the high percentage of Americans who want them disclosed. By refusing to do so he either has too much to hide and would rather risk losing the elections or he has a total disregard for how Americans think and is relying on their ignorance to win in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 19, 2019 #69 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Hillary showed her personal tax returns, but not those of the Clinton Foundation where they funnelled a lot of money. https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-releases-eight-years-of-tax-returns-120882 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 19, 2019 #70 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Michelle said: Hillary showed her personal tax returns, but not those of the Clinton Foundation where they funnelled a lot of money. https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-releases-eight-years-of-tax-returns-120882 The Clinton Foundation is a non-profit. They don't file tax returns but instead file a Form 990. As a non-profit it is required to be made public. Here is a link where you can look it up yourself: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/311580204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted September 19, 2019 #71 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 8 years? That's illegal. By law they can only verify 3 and only if Trump filed loses ( which I doubt ) would ask 7. Edited September 19, 2019 by qxcontinuum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 19, 2019 #72 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just for fun. Here is the link to the Trump Foundations Form 990's: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/display_990/133404773/2016_11_PF%2F13-3404773_990PF_201512 Mind you it got shut down because Trump was using it as his personal piggy bank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 19, 2019 #73 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, qxcontinuum said: 8 years? That's illegal. By law they can only verify 3 and only if Trump filed bancrpsy would ask 7. It's related to Cohen and the hush money payments for a criminal investigation. Not an audit. The subpoena is for the Trump Organization of which Cohen was a member of for quite a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted September 19, 2019 #74 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) On 9/17/2019 at 2:13 PM, and then said: I'll be here. My guess is we'll see a few of your heros go down first. Frankly, I don't have any 'heroes' in the political zoo that runs (or would potentially run) the USA. In many ways I'm glad it happened, as it is a lesson for other countries that are not yet corrupted to the core. We can see what can happen in a country that: 1. lets (in fact invites..) rich, stupid, immoral liars to run the show 2. has a ridiculously easy to cheat, and thoroughly gerry-mandered, electoral system. Hopefully we might learn, and thus avoid the sewer you guys are in (yes, I know, some of you like it, apparently...). As a start, In Australia we have compulsory voting and an independent body that sets electoral boundaries. As a side issue {(cough)Clintons(/cough)} we also don't have the USA's ludicrous non-profit corporations system, which seems to be set up solely to hide financial criminality, tax avoidance and money laundering. Yes, it's a paradise over there! For the rich, criminal and corrupt, at least.. Edited September 19, 2019 by ChrLzs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 19, 2019 #75 Share Posted September 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Black Red Devil said: All others have because they had nothing to hide. You would think the one person that WOULD HAVE TO release them considering all the 'suspicious allegations' thrown his way since becoming POTUS would be Trump. Considering the Presidential elections are approaching it would also be a wise move considering the polls showing the high percentage of Americans who want them disclosed. By refusing to do so he either has too much to hide and would rather risk losing the elections or he has a total disregard for how Americans think and is relying on their ignorance to win in 2020. and he will likely win 2020, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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