stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #151 Share Posted September 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, brian100 said: You are thinking of earth speed. Out in space there is no air around you to give you a feeling of movement. When the space people do it in our Atmosphere they must have a anti gravity device if such a law exists. No I am not. You are apparently science illiterate. You have no idea how anything works do you? Are you in elementary school? My kids knew about red shift and blue shift in 5th grade. I was guessing middle school but now I'm thinking elementary school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted September 19, 2019 #152 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, brian100 said: What else is there to consider? Ok I am through with this thread, have a nice day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #153 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, stereologist said: No I am not. You are apparently science illiterate. You have no idea how anything works do you? Are you in elementary school? My kids knew about red shift and blue shift in 5th grade. I was guessing middle school but now I'm thinking elementary school. Have no idea what you are saying with red and blue shifts. Like I'm going to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #154 Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, brian100 said: I'm discussing the subject of UFO and their capabilities. The issue is science and you have no idea what words mean. UFOs in the Navy film are distant planes and a probable weather balloon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #155 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, Manwon Lender said: Ok I am through with this thread, have a nice day. What is the alternative to a UFO spinning around like in the Asteroids games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #156 Share Posted September 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, brian100 said: Yes you have said this like 10 times now. You keep illustrating your inability to understand what was stated by the Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #157 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, stereologist said: The issue is science and you have no idea what words mean. UFOs in the Navy film are distant planes and a probable weather balloon. No, I'm familiar with your point of view b/c I had to read it more than 5 x. which is , The Navy can't tell you what it is, but It can only say they didn't hoax this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #158 Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, brian100 said: I not only supplied the time but also provided you with a nifty screenshot so you can start the video at the correct spot . So you too can observe the UFO going to this so called fake light speed realm. You were wrong. You have been wrong 100% of the time. You ave made such odd wrong statements about relativity and how space without air doesn't allow for the detection of motion that it shows your complete and utter failure at understanding science even at the elementary school level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted September 19, 2019 #159 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, stereologist said: You keep illustrating your inability to understand what was stated by the Navy. he's winding you up mate.. why can't you see that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #160 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Just now, stereologist said: You were wrong. You have been wrong 100% of the time. You ave made such odd wrong statements about relativity and how space without air doesn't allow for the detection of motion that it shows your complete and utter failure at understanding science even at the elementary school level. I only said if you were on a ship going light speed, like capt Kirk, you would not feel it moving. Edited September 19, 2019 by brian100 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #161 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, brian100 said: I'm not trying to fool anyone I'm just pointing out things the UFO can do. If you think the Navy is crazy take it up with them and not me. No you are telling obvious bald faced lies about the videos. This is not about the Navy. This is about you and how you prefer to tell lies about videos such as light speed and everything else you haven't got a clue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #162 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, stereologist said: No you are telling obvious bald faced lies about the videos. This is not about the Navy. This is about you and how you prefer to tell lies about videos such as light speed and everything else you haven't got a clue about. Do you have better evidence for UFO than the Navy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #163 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, brian100 said: The Navies own equipment is not fake. They at least admit that part. Of course it is not fake. There are plenty of places online to read about its capabilities. That is how we know the probable weather balloon is traveling at 30mph. That is how its elevation is known. That is how it is possible to determine that there is a single object, not 3 as you lie about. Of course FLIR is real. The question has been whether or not the videos were adulterated. It is possible that sections have been clipped on purpose to hide what is in the videos. These videos are missing headers and trailers that would be found on officially released videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #164 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Okay Stereo.. I'm done here. You go on believing there is no proof, and I will go on watching the news articles pile up. Have a nice blessed day. Edited September 19, 2019 by brian100 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #165 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, brian100 said: What else is there to consider? Not being a loud mouthed ignoramus. You really should learn some basic science. You should learn how to analyze a video. You should learn that your claims of light speed and other things are laughable childish blatherings. If you decide to learn I believe you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #166 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, brian100 said: Have no idea what you are saying with red and blue shifts. Like I'm going to believe it. As I thought you have no idea about science above the 4th grade level. Anyone with an elementary school science education knows about the doppler effect. It is what allows radars to track storms. It also allows us to search for exoplanets and to track events such as the movement of particles on the Sun. It is what allows a cop to give a traffic ticket. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #167 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, brian100 said: No, I'm familiar with your point of view b/c I had to read it more than 5 x. which is , The Navy can't tell you what it is, but It can only say they didn't hoax this. No. The Navy is not telling us what it is. They may know. They have stated it is real video. From the start of the analysis of the video real FLIR experts have used the available information on the screen to analyze the videos and state the distance position and movements of the objects in the video. They specifically point out the large number of errors the TTSA have posted about the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #168 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, stereologist said: No. The Navy is not telling us what it is. They may know. They have stated it is real video. From the start of the analysis of the video real FLIR experts have used the available information on the screen to analyze the videos and state the distance position and movements of the objects in the video. They specifically point out the large number of errors the TTSA have posted about the videos. Dude if it was a weather balloon they have the capability to shoot it down. Okay have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted September 19, 2019 #169 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, stereologist said: No. The Navy is not telling us what it is. They may know. They have stated it is real video. have they? or have we just been told this via a third party? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #170 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, brian100 said: I only said if you were on a ship going light speed, like capt Kirk, you would not feel it moving. That is not what you stated. When someone spouts BS all of the time they quickly forget what nonsense they post. Here is what you posted: " Since space is relative (space and time) .... moving at light speed will make it appear as if everything has stopped. And someone going light speed will not notice any change that he is even moving.. " Blunder 1: "moving at light speed will make it appear as if everything has stopped." That is completely wrong. Blunder 2: "And someone going light speed will not notice any change that he is even moving.. " It is possible to detect they are moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian100 Posted September 19, 2019 #171 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: have they? or have we just been told this via a third party? They are suppose to protect us from everything. That's why they have heat seeking and Infrared missile..Not just watch someone violate our air space. So now the ball is in my court again. Edited September 19, 2019 by brian100 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #172 Share Posted September 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, brian100 said: Do you have better evidence for UFO than the Navy? What do you think UFO means other than an unidentified flying object? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted September 19, 2019 #173 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, brian100 said: They are suppose to protect us from everything. That's why they have heat seeking and Infrared missile..Not just watch someone violate our air space. So now the ball is in my court again. go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #174 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, brian100 said: Okay Stereo.. I'm done here. You go on believing there is no proof, and I will go on watching the news articles pile up. Have a nice blessed day. Oh please continue to make me laugh. I've been enjoying your utter lack of understanding of even 5th grade science. There is no proof or even evidence of aliens visiting Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2019 #175 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 hours ago, brian100 said: So the Navy is incompetent bunch of jokers faking this whole thing to rile everyone up? You are implying they can't tell the diff between a mig and a weather balloon or an UFO. So now we get what is known as a non sequitur. It means that the conclusion does not follow from the statements made. Here is the nonsensical claim: "You are implying they can't tell the diff between a mig and a weather balloon or an UFO." That doesn't follow because I never suggested any such thing. Maybe someone that pretends something went light speed or can't count one weather balloon might dream this up in their childish tantrum. It is very clear to the crew that the object they encounter is small and moving slow. The precludes a MIG. They might not at the time realize they are viewing a Navy released weather balloon but they try and get a lock on it using the new equipment that has been part of the fleet upgrade. It takes 3 tries but they get a lock on it and the time to try is a few seconds. That's not bad considering the object is cold. It is not a hot running engine. At the time they obtain the lock you could call it a UFO. The elevation and slow speed and size suggest a weather balloon. It might also be one of the larger pelagic birds, but probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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