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Trump’s Loose Lips with Ukraine


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18 hours ago, RAyMO said:

There is no evidence of anyone in your law enforcement branch having any knowledge of a requirement to investigate Biden, nor is there any evidence of a request for the President to initiate such an inquiry.

How do we know that, unless someone investigates? Oh, right, because those who would profit from covering it up said so.

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5 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

White House accidentally sends Ukraine talking/deflecting points to Democrats.

https://www.fark.com/goto/10585481/thehill.com/homenews/house/465457-white-house-accidentally-sends-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats

I'm pretty sure it wasn't another accident. It's probably some mid level grunt putting country before party.

 The cracks are starting to appear in the Trump impeachment defences. 

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9 hours ago, bee said:

 

maybe - dunno - perhaps he WAS just a complete puppet president ... doing what he was told and
going through the script and motions of office... not sure...

but I am sure that Trump ISN'T a puppet president... and ''''they''''' don't like that one little bit...

and that's why they attempt to reverse reality  to try to make people believe that  Trump is Putin's puppet..:rolleyes:

...hard to prove but it would be good closure to find out that Trump isnt stupid after all and just plain ol' corrupt.  

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17 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

...hard to prove but it would be good closure to find out that Trump isnt stupid after all and just plain ol' corrupt.  

It can be both. It is both. 

But the stupid angle is what we'll laugh at for centuries to come. Well, we'll die in the meantime, but generations after us will scream with laughter when learning about the Trumpery period in the US. 

 

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1 hour ago, Hankenhunter said:

Woof! That's got to smart...

Still, some of those are going to the SCotUS where they could be overturned. 

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4 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

It can be both. It is both. 

But the stupid angle is what we'll laugh at for centuries to come. Well, we'll die in the meantime, but generations after us will scream with laughter when learning about the Trumpery period in the US. 

 

Whether they will laugh because of the actions of Trump, or the actions of the Democrats, is the real question.

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14 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Whether they will laugh because of the actions of Trump, or the actions of the Democrats, is the real question.

I don't think that's the real question since I laugh at both almost daily.

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The cult is losing their leader, and the Cool Aid flows like bad wine.

Shepherd Smith escapes Fix News ....  and runs for his life.

 

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9 hours ago, maxxcat2016 said:

Idiotic right wingers: "I don't see anything here? Nothing illegal here, my man-god couldn't do anything wrong!"

And what do you say about Quid Pro Joe Biden?  Nothing to see here?

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1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

The cult is losing their leader, and the Cool Aid flows like bad wine.

Shepherd Smith escapes Fix News ....  and runs for his life.

 

Good riddance!   

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2 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Whether they will laugh because of the actions of Trump, or the actions of the Democrats, is the real question.

Interesting, psychologically speaking, that you single out Trump, without mentioning Republicans, but you imply that actions of any Democrat should be seen as their collective shame. 

Of course, there's nothing wrong in finally subconsciously distancing yourself from the worst shame in American history. 

 

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On 10/11/2019 at 10:32 AM, Helen of Annoy said:

Honey, that photo was taken in 2016 and has nothing to do with Trump. 

It took me 5 seconds to find out.

Very good, your research skills are impeccable, but only when it comes to $-hitting on Trump.  I’ve been to both Minneapolis and Cleveland and I knew there was something wrong with the picture.  However, you seem to miss the point of the picture in the first place.  Yes, whoever put this picture out should have done a better job.  As someone that has been to a Trump rally, the crowd in that picture is certainly representative of what the crowd usually looks like prior to when the doors open.  I think that is what the person was originally trying to relay.

 

I tired looking for pictures of the crowd outside of the Santa Ana Star Center here, but couldn’t really find anything.  I found this one, but it is still like 5 hours prior to when the doors opened.  There are maybe only a couple thousand people there (we haven’t shown up yet).  Now remember that our venues are much smaller than other places.  The entire population of the state is only around 2 million.  And it is an extremely Blue-state.  The capacity of the Star is something like 7500 with another 1500 on the floor when used.  In the picture, people are still spread out; tents are still up.  But even when the line started to form many kept their tents up and just moved them with the line (one person a pole).  A few hours from this point, the parking lots were full and cars were still coming in and that line was backed up as far as the eye could see.  When the doors opened, the picture below had 4 to 5 times more people.  The approaches to the doors past the jumbotron was packed.  The area extends further beyond the bottom of the picture frame.  The parking area by the bo-johns was completely packed as was the upper parking area that is off to the left of the picture frame.  After the arena was full, there were still thousands outside.  Many were coming in pulling their wagons just to setup in front of the jumbotron.  There were easily 12 thousand there.  As I’ve said, we’re a small venue but I don’t recall anything like this ever except for the Balloon Fiesta which is wrapping up tomorrow.

 

Everyone had a good time.  It was a great positive experience.  It was mostly Anglo and Hispanic which is your typical New Mexican but Blacks, Native Americans, and Asians were well represented.  There were just as many women as there were men (perhaps more).  Old and young alike.  We had drag queens and lesbians too.  The one word to describe this is unity and inclusiveness.  Ok, two words.  And this is just a small sampling of the world of hurt the Left is in for.  They can play their little games all they want.  This poll you can’t fake.

 

https://www.kob.com/kobtvimages/repository/2019-09/277B0260F290479880A94D5CD60B38D8.jpg

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17 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

yeah, really.  Who needs a fact checker spoiling the narrative.

That guy is NOT a fact checker.  The guy is a liberal hack!  Nothing more, nothing less.

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23 hours ago, bee said:

 

I'm starting to think there could be more to all this than meets the eye...

Zelensky was elected president 21st April (2019) - Biden announces he's running to become
the Democrat candidate for the Presidency... just 4 days later ...

could this have been a two pronged political maneuovre - one defensive to protect himself and at the same
time set Trump up for this Big Impeachment Hit ? 

Biden working with the CIA (Brennan and pals) etc must have known they could create a fake story
of election interference when Trump talked to Zelensky and would (they hoped) bring up Biden's son -

I can just imagine Brennan himself listening into the conversation and going... YES we can do something
with that...

Although it was weak and they hoped for more... Schiff made up a fake version for congress...
but was outed by Trump when he released the transcript - rather than just denying it..

and now it is all fizzling out ....

I wondered why such a hopeless candidate like Biden was running  - with the pics of him and his creepy 
touching of children... and his obvious beginnings of dementia but perhaps it was actually all a plot to entrap
Trump and at the same time create protection around himself and his family... :wacko:

 

   

Wouldn’t it just be easier to run a candidate against Donald Trump who could beat him in an election?

 Far simpler than some theory that hangs on Donald Trump actually falling for asking for dirt on Joe Biden, to get the POTUS out.

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1 minute ago, Kismit said:

Wouldn’t it just be easier to run a candidate against Donald Trump who could beat him in an election?

 Far simpler than some theory that hangs on Donald Trump actually falling for asking for dirt on Joe Biden, to get the POTUS out.

You would think it would be easier. But often, U.S. elections run incumbent heavy. Even with a good  new candidate, many people tend to run with the current politician rather than vote/change to other for many reasons. With even iffyish to the incumbent.. sai...

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11 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

It can be both. It is both. 

But the stupid angle is what we'll laugh at for centuries to come. Well, we'll die in the meantime, but generations after us will scream with laughter when learning about the Trumpery period in the US. 

Yes it can be both. The people that have worked and are closest to him in politics have all cast disparaging remarks about his decisions and mental state. So who really knows what our DNA can really store. Maybe we will all laugh hundreds of years from now.  

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33 minutes ago, joc said:

That guy is NOT a fact checker.  The guy is a liberal hack!  Nothing more, nothing less.

Do you have facts to back that up, or are you just being a conservative ditto head hack?

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16 hours ago, DieChecker said:

How do we know that, unless someone investigates? Oh, right, because those who would profit from covering it up said so.

Trump is a sitting president and Joe Biden is nothing more than a future candidate for president. the onus is on a investigation around Trump and his actions as president. Thats what an impeachment inquiry is all about. 

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@RavenHawk Yeah, yeah, verbosity will save you... not.  

So, why was it falsely claimed that a photo of a basketball event from 3 years ago was taken at recent Trump cult gathering? 

There were no cameras?

Yes, there were and the arena wasn't even full. You had no cultists in numbers that would soothe Trump's giant but fragile ego, so you lied and falsified, as usual. In such sloppy, idiotic manner, as usual. 

 

More closely on topic, Pentagon thinks stopping aid for Ukraine wasn't even legal. 

And that's what the guy who was supposed to be your country's president did. In attempt to extort dirt on an American.

How do you guys live with that? I know I asked this recently, but I'm genuinely curious. How do you live with that, what you did?  

 

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14 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

@RavenHawk Yeah, yeah, verbosity will save you... not.  

So, why was it falsely claimed that a photo of a basketball event from 3 years ago was taken at recent Trump cult gathering? 

There were no cameras?

Yes, there were and the arena wasn't even full. You had no cultists in numbers that would soothe Trump's giant but fragile ego, so you lied and falsified, as usual. In such sloppy, idiotic manner, as usual. 

 

More closely on topic, Pentagon thinks stopping aid for Ukraine wasn't even legal. 

And that's what the guy who was supposed to be your country's president did. In attempt to extort dirt on an American.

How do you guys live with that? I know I asked this recently, but I'm genuinely curious. How do you live with that, what you did?  

 

It's really quite simple, Helen, their motto is, "screw you, I got mine"

 

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On 10/10/2019 at 8:38 PM, Tatetopa said:

Everybody that honors the Constitution wants to see that.

The Left have shown that they do not.  Their platform is to rewrite the Constitution.  They think it is archaic and needs to be scrapped.  They don’t understand that the Constitution was developed based on human nature and that doesn’t change.  Because human nature doesn’t change, then the Constitution will never change.  And that will forever be counter to Socialist ideals.

 

That’s right.  Franklin commented on a question put to him after the Constitutional Convention of what kind of government he and the others had given the people?  He replied, “a Republic if we can keep it”.  Every day we must fight to keep it.  Reagan is famous for stating that freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.  It wasn’t passed on to our children in the bloodstream.  It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.  This is how we reaffirm.  This is what Franklin was talking about.

 

Right now about half the people think the Democrats are a joke

You don’t have to do much thinking to see that.  What’s sad is that they are very un-wok to that fact.

 

and the other half think the President is both sleezy and incompetent. 

And anyone that has taken the time to understand the man, knows this is utter garbage.  The only reason that half see Trump as sleezy and incompetent is because of the influence of the weak minded that the MSM has over them.  Just imagine how much better things would be if the media was even just partially fair?

 

But it is not supposed to be a popularity contest, so let both sides present their best case.

They already have.  The Left have already lost.  They don’t understand that this assault on him is what he thrives on.  Trump has had two rallies in a week and we are still 13 months away.  Who ever becomes the Socialist candidate, they aren’t going to be able to keep up.  Their rallies are going to be so boring.

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8 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

It's really quite simple, Helen, their motto is, "screw you, I got mine"

 

Well, at least they're idiots. So they screwed themselves more than anyone else. 

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1 hour ago, Kismit said:

Wouldn’t it just be easier to run a candidate against Donald Trump who could beat him in an election?

 Far simpler than some theory that hangs on Donald Trump actually falling for asking for dirt on Joe Biden, to get the POTUS out.

 

well yes you would think it would be easier... but that doesn't seem to be the way it's going...

for example I think many Democrats thought Bernie Sanders had a better chance of beating Trump
than Hillary Clinton.... but (as exposed by Wikileaks) he was pushed out... and now Tulsi Gabbard
could probably have a decent shot at it but from what I've seen she is being sidelined and basically
pushed out... both of the afore mentioned potential candidates probably weren't compliant enough for
the 'Puppetmasters' ie Deep State... ie Shadow Government - and their cohorts - and they probably
weren't / aren't enthusiastic enough warmongers...

???

Trump isn't an enthusiastic enough warmonger for them either ....

 

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