Jump to content
Join the Unexplained Mysteries community today! It's free and setting up an account only takes a moment.
- Sign In or Create Account -
Cookie Monster

Stress and Anxiety

143 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

drakonwick
On 1/31/2020 at 3:13 AM, Crikey said:

All true Christians automatically do "virtuous behaviour" because it comes naturally, otherwise they wouldn't be true Christians..:P

But for nonchristians, being a goody-two-shoes counts for zilch in God's eyes because they've rejected JC, and no way hozay will J-rejecters make it through the pearlies or it'd be a case of "oops there goes the neighbourhood".

PS- if they at least liked Jesus a little bit they're in with a chance.

 

 

Once you talk like that, you have lost all credibility to me. The hypocrisy of it all is prevalent! So you can just cut out all the religious "Holier than Thou" nonsense, it's meaningless.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 4
  • Confused 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Desertrat56
Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

The fact still remains, atheism answers none of the big questions and others no hope, and therefore is a depressing perspective upon life.

You don't know what atheism answers or doesn't answer because have made assumptions about what it is and how others think, as my assumptions of what you think based on what you have been saying.  You protest too much, I think.  You have a way of explaining the world in relation to your experiences and others have the same.  It is very freeing to not worry about some old man in some high place looking down judging you.  And it is also freeing to know that there is no magical help, so you have to be responsible for your own thoughts and actions, making it very easy to be the best you can for yourself and no one else, and sometimes when you think you aren't you don't have to be afraid to be human, you can cut yourself some slack and move on. 

Hope is for people who are afraid, or want someone to save them from themselves, it is a useless emotion.

 

11 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

And what makes you think you know what is going on in my mind? You criticise me for one thing, then do that exact same thing!

So, the shoe is on the other foot and then you go and contradict yourself by the next paragraph that I quoted above.

 

Edited by Desertrat56
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
joc
On 3/26/2020 at 10:46 PM, Crazy Horse said:

The fact still remains, atheism answers none of the big questions and others no hope, and therefore is a depressing perspective upon life.

Actually, it answers ALL of the big questions.  Hope?  Hope is for those who can't.  If you can change something...DO IT...if you cannot...don't worry about it.   Nothing depressing about that at all.

I hope it doesn't rain....:hmm:  How ridiculous!  We don't control the weather...only a fool would believe they could.  So what does 'hoping' it doesn't rain add to any equation?  It doesn't.  If it rains it rains.

 

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
drakonwick

I like that! The difference is science can give us forecasts of the weather! Not so much for religious beliefs! It's on a whole different spectrum. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dejarma
36 minutes ago, joc said:

Actually, it answers ALL of the big questions.  Hope?  Hope is for those who can't.  If you can change something...DO IT...if you cannot...don't worry about it.   Nothing depressing about that at all.

I hope it doesn't rain....:hmm:  How ridiculous!  We don't control the weather...only a fool would believe they could.  So what does 'hoping' it doesn't rain add to any equation?  It doesn't.  If it rains it rains.

 

god made it rain= god gives small children leukemia.. you should wake up and smell the roses mate! :D

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jujo-jo
40 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

god made it rain= god gives small children leukemia.. you should wake up and smell the roses mate! :D

Well sounds like you're still mad at God...

Yes, rain is holy in away as well, it cleanses & purifies things, which we all desperately need right now ; )

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
joc
7 hours ago, Dejarma said:

god made it rain= god gives small children leukemia.. you should wake up and smell the roses mate! :D

Entities are only a figment of your imagination...

...I smell the roses every day!   B)

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19_Kilo
On 3/26/2020 at 11:19 PM, drakonwick said:

Once you talk like that, you have lost all credibility to me. The hypocrisy of it all is prevalent! So you can just cut out all the religious "Holier than Thou" nonsense, it's meaningless.

Not only a total and permanent loss of cred, but self-righteous holier than thou claptrap like that makes me understand why history is filled with many examples of Christian zealots meeting bad ends. LOL.  Maybe it's the  recovering Catholic in me,  but when someone tells me that sorta stuff to my face, it takes considerable willpower not to beeyatch slap them.

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19_Kilo
Posted (edited)
On 1/31/2020 at 3:14 AM, Crikey said:

Only God knows...Even Paul was man enough to say-  "My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time" (1 Cor 4:3)

Same with me, I've got the love of Jesus in my baby-blue eyes but that's no guarantee I'll make it through the pearlies..:D

And that's the deal, innit mate? If all Christians just left it at that, where You did..saying that, " yeah, I'm a believer and I love Jesus and live the best life I can, but I'll be damned if I know for sure if I'm getting into heaven. Only God knows for sure."

Then I and most other atheists would find their testimonies much much more palatable. And the rancor between the two groups would be significantly lessened.

But it's the ones that can't stop there and have to condemn to the fiery pits the non-believers who create 90% of the ire. The arrogance of someone claiming to know God's will and ways and methods are truly maddening to some of us. Amazingly so, really.  Bafflingly so, in fact, when you think about it: why would someone who doesn't believe in Heaven or Hell get so riled about being condemned to the latter? 

Peace.

Edited by Tuco's Gas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Desertrat56
15 hours ago, Tuco's Gas said:

Not only a total and permanent loss of cred, but self-righteous holier than thou claptrap like that makes me understand why history is filled with many examples of Christian zealots meeting bad ends. LOL.  Maybe it's the  recovering Catholic in me,  but when someone tells me that sorta stuff to my face, it takes considerable willpower not to beeyatch slap them.

I have the same reaction, though I was beaten with the bible by Southern Baptists.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jujo-jo
Posted (edited)
On 3/27/2020 at 12:19 AM, drakonwick said:

Once you talk like that, you have lost all credibility to me. The hypocrisy of it all is prevalent! So you can just cut out all the religious "Holier than Thou" nonsense, it's meaningless.

50/50 I see what you mean but at the same time the believers and Christians who attend regularly do have a sense of something to hold on to and to put their time and faith in.

I'd have to say for those who do not believe 

And for those who do

To each their own, both are equal, both are correct for whatever reasons ; )

Edited by Jujo-jo
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
drakonwick
3 minutes ago, Jujo-jo said:

50/50 I see what you mean but at the same time the believers and Christians who attend regularly do have a sense of something to hold on to and to put their time and faith in.

To each their own! I will personally never berate them for doing so! I draw the line at personal religious nonsense.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
jmccr8
On 3/26/2020 at 9:46 PM, Crazy Horse said:

The fact still remains, atheism answers none of the big questions and others no hope, and therefore is a depressing perspective upon life.

Hi Crazy Horse

I would suggest that your take on how atheists see life is beyond your capacity to understand anything that doesn't fit into your isolating point of view and that can be rectified should you choose to be less biased.

jmccr8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
micahc
On 10/4/2019 at 2:55 PM, RabidMongoose said:

I have been examining how stress and anxiety works and thought I would post my insights into turning them off for those interested. If you have your own methods please share.

Cold Showers: The stress of cold showers activates an area of the limbic system that takes the edge off stress and anxiety. It doesnt completely shut them down, but dampens them down quite a lot. Repeated cold showers every morning hardens a person up to stress and anxiety so they have a higher pain threshold.

Sensory Overload: During periods of stress and anxiety our minds narrow to a focus. The focus being whatever is making us stressed and anxious. We can reverse that by making ourselves aware of everything our eyes can see, our ears can hear, our noses can smell, our tongues can taste, and our skin can feel, all at the same time. If that is hard start with the vision and smell at the same time. Our brains cannot do anxiety and stress while subjected to sensory overload. It struggles to do both at once.

Smelling Lemons: The smell of lemons has been shown to directly affect the activity of the limbic system to turn off stress and anxiety.

 

 

the supplement GABA helps me.  always consult your physician before trying a new supplement. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
lightly
Posted (edited)
On March 27, 2020 at 9:34 PM, joc said:

Actually, it answers ALL of the big questions.  Hope?  Hope is for those who can't.  If you can change something...DO IT...if you cannot...don't worry about it.   Nothing depressing about that at all.

I hope it doesn't rain....:hmm:  How ridiculous!  We don't control the weather...only a fool would believe they could.  So what does 'hoping' it doesn't rain add to any equation?  It doesn't.  If it rains it rains.

 

I don't see anything all that WRONG !  with a little hope ,or a little wish, I do it all the time...it doesn't mean my little .or big, hopes and wishes will change anything.  I understand that.   But, no harm done?  I hope you can understand my point of view ? :P.        And.... I hope the wind stays calmer today...it's been vicious lately!  :lol:

 .  . As for your responce about atheism... "Actually, it answers ALL of the big questions."

I don't get it....how so?  Does atheism answer why it rains? Or...where the singularity which became the universe came from? Or why the Beatles were such a great band? Or why laughter is so precious? 

Not that belief in god answers any of those questions either... but I don't see atheism as any sort of answer to anything.   ..??

Edited by lightly
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
joc
4 minutes ago, lightly said:

I don't see anything all that WRONG !  with a little hope ,or a little wish, I do it all the time...it doesn't mean my little .or big, hopes and wishes will change anything.  I understand that.   But, no harm done?  I hope you can understand my point of view ? :P.        And.... I hope the wind stays calmer today...it's been vicious lately!  :lol:

It's just a philosophical point lightly! :)    Why hope for the wind to be anything at all?  It is what it is.  The philosophical point is to note what is and enjoy it.  By hoping that reality might be something other than what is, we short-sheet our experience of the moment for what it truly is.  Two things cause stress and anxiety...living in the past, and living in the future.  If I hope the wind blows differently than how it is blowing than I am anticipating a time when the wind does what I want it to...I am not longer in the moment...I am living in the future...which doesn't even exist.  My philosophy is to live in the moment.  Because there is only one! ...and it's happening right now...while the wind or rain is doing whatever it is doing... 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
lightly
5 minutes ago, joc said:

It's just a philosophical point lightly! :)    Why hope for the wind to be anything at all?  It is what it is.  The philosophical point is to note what is and enjoy it.  By hoping that reality might be something other than what is, we short-sheet our experience of the moment for what it truly is.  Two things cause stress and anxiety...living in the past, and living in the future.  If I hope the wind blows differently than how it is blowing than I am anticipating a time when the wind does what I want it to...I am not longer in the moment...I am living in the future...which doesn't even exist.  My philosophy is to live in the moment.  Because there is only one! ...and it's happening right now...while the wind or rain is doing whatever it is doing... 

So, being beaten and robbed at this moment would cause no stress or anxiety?    Good to know.  :P

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
joc
24 minutes ago, lightly said:

So, being beaten and robbed at this moment would cause no stress or anxiety?    Good to know.  :P

That is something within the realm of our ability to change.  I can change the situation by becoming the beat-er rather than the beat-ee...:gun:

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.