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Should documentaries become politically correct in today's progressive era?  e.g.  Watching history documentaries about WW2 and they are clearly biased and filled with hatred towards the Axis nations.  Should they be edited or remade to become more politically correct, or at the very least tone down the aggression and drop the propaganda.  It's got to the point that my cousins refuse to watch WW2 documentaries because they have been fed so much hysterical bs that they now think the Germans and Japanese are the spawns of Satan.  It does not exactly help public relations between (now friendly) countries when one side is still broadcasting propaganda and demonstrating blatant hatred and contempt against the other, especially as it is still regarded as recent history.  There must be around 200 documentaries on each week which directly or indirectly insults an entire nation, past and present.  Should history be protected with a PC law and finally be allowed to be studied and viewed with a clean unbiased perspective and not be constantly one sided?

 

The stereotype is always the same.

 

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6 minutes ago, Aaron2016 said:

Should documentaries become politically correct in today's progressive era?  e.g.  Watching history documentaries about WW2 and they are clearly biased and filled with hatred towards the Axis nations.  Should they be edited or remade to become more politically correct, or at the very least tone down the aggression and drop the charade of propaganda.  It's got to the point that my cousins refuse to watch WW2 documentaries because they have been fed so much hysterical bs that they now think the Germans are the spawns of Satan.  It does not exactly help public relations between (now friendly) countries when one side is still broadcasting propaganda and demonstrating blatant hatred and contempt against the other, especially as it is still regarded as recent history.  There must be around 200 documentaries on each week which directly insults an entire nation, past and present.  Should history be protected with PC and be allowed to be studied and viewed with a clean unbiased perspective and not be constantly one sided?

 

 

Please don't bring Politics into this as we have had enough over the past 3 years and its getting worse. Most of the German people are quite friendly ,its past Politics that have caused them to being conned into World Domination , The problem now is that they are Politically Dominant in Europe without a shot being fired , and they have French backing, but a lot of French people still have problems liking Germany, not without just cause.  

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The holocaust in Europe and the Rape of Nanking was not propaganda and those who believe it was are fools and self-deluded.  Continuing to hate people for the actions of their parents and grandparents is wrong but to forget that it happened or to minimize it for the sake of emotions is wrong as well...and dangerous.  Our species has a way of trying things over and over unless we remember and CHOOSE to do something different.

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Rewriting history to protect some people's feelings is a dangerous road to go down.  Can't change what happened.  As far as blaming people today for what happened, I don't.   They weren't there and had no hand in it.  Heck many ordinary Germans and Japanese at that time didn't have any hand in what happened.    Same with slavery in the US.  Your average person didn't own slaves or didn't have anything to do with it.  But you can't and shouldn't change history, just don't blame those today for what happened long ago.

 

 

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WW2 Docs are historical, they are not designed to imply that the idealogical situation at that time is still held today by the same nations. If individuals viewing these documentaries cannot differentiate between history and the present then it is not a problem with the documentary topic but the viewer.    

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51 minutes ago, and then said:

The holocaust in Europe and the Rape of Nanking was not propaganda and those who believe it was are fools and self-deluded.  Continuing to hate people for the actions of their parents and grandparents is wrong but to forget that it happened or to minimize it for the sake of emotions is wrong as well...and dangerous.  Our species has a way of trying things over and over unless we remember and CHOOSE to do something different.

The documentaries could at the very least respect history fully and put it into proper perspective e.g. Tell us about the mass epidemic of Typhus that was killing millions during the war and what steps were being made across Europe on both sides to handle it.  Tell us about the allied forces bombing railway lines which stopped much needed food supplies, military blunders, friendly fire incidents, war profiteers, soldiers and manpower shortages, mass retreats, describing how food and resources were spread thin across large areas with mass poverty, starvation, and disease everywhere and what the average French, British, and German citizen was going through at various stages of the war.  This is the kind of basic black and white perspective the viewers should be able to receive with no bias towards any side.  I just long for a documentary that tells the cold truths and tells us how it really was in proper perspective without the generic sinister music and Dr. Evil stereotypes.

 

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1 hour ago, Aaron2016 said:

Should documentaries become politically correct in today's progressive era?

No.

1 hour ago, Aaron2016 said:

Watching history documentaries about WW2 and they are clearly biased and filled with hatred towards the Axis nations.

Whilst the old footage might be difficult for some to watch, it shows what happened in world history. 

 

1 hour ago, Aaron2016 said:

Should they be edited or remade to become more politically correct, or at the very least tone down the aggression and drop the propaganda. 

Definitely not. 

1 hour ago, Aaron2016 said:

It's got to the point that my cousins refuse to watch WW2 documentaries because they have been fed so much hysterical bs that they now think the Germans and Japanese are the spawns of Satan.

They should probably find something else to watch if they can't handle watching what went on in world history.  Some people are far too sensitive nowadays and it's not their fault, it's just the way some of society is.  Hence the term, snowflakes.  There is a portion of people that simply cannot handle anything outside of the perfect little bubble they live in.  This is part of progression - another part is how these countries that were once at war, are now allies today.  That's a positive.  

Example - I refuse to watch documentaries on the Holocaust.  Why? Because it's a event in our history that I find is extremely disgusting of human behaviour and can only hope to god the entire world learnt from it and have moved forward somewhat.  

Germany and Japan sadly have that stigma attached to them - but it's important to realise that these are not the people today, who committed those atrocities.  It is as dark for Germans and Japanese as it is for the rest of the world.  

1 hour ago, Aaron2016 said:

There must be around 200 documentaries on each week which directly or indirectly insults an entire nation, past and present.  Should history be protected with a PC law and finally be allowed to be studied and viewed with a clean unbiased perspective and not be constantly one sided?

History cannot be rewritten.  What's happened, happened and nobody can change that.  What's important is that we learn from it and to ensure it doesn't repeat.

If you were to rewrite history - dumb it down, soften it somewhat for people who can't look at the harshness of war itself, then we run the risk of these events reoccurring all over again.  

History is there as a reminder....and it cannot be altered.  

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10 minutes ago, Aaron2016 said:

This is the kind of basic black and white perspective the viewers should be able to receive with no bias towards any side.

Unfortunately, we missed that train long ago.  The media has control of what propaganda gets broadcast to us on any channel nowadays.  Take it with a grain of salt.  

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11 minutes ago, Aaron2016 said:

e the viewers should be able to receive with no bias towards any side

The cold reality is sometimes facts have a bias. 

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2 hours ago, Aaron2016 said:

I just long for a documentary that tells the cold truths and tells us how it really was in proper perspective

Write it and submit it for filming/production.  Most of the documentaries of the history of those days were done by people who LIVED those horrors.  Human nature being what it is you can hardly expect a pure, non-biased angle.  Also, the European Holocaust of the Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Homosexuals and the mentally ill... the Japanese treatment of the Chinese at Nanking, those WERE the cold truths of that time.  There can be NO extenuating circumstances that justify those actions in any way.  Those actions set the stage for later atrocities by other warring countries including the firebombing of cities in Germany and Japan and smaller scale acts of murder committed by U.S. and other allied service members.  While working for the VA medical system I heard stories from WWII vets about revenge taken on German civilians and military that amounted to mass murder in revenege for the loss of friends and colleagues -THAT is war.  THAT is why it needs to be presented as it WAS, not as how we think it should have been seen.

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4 hours ago, Aaron2016 said:

The documentaries could at the very least respect history fully and put it into proper perspective e.g. Tell us about the mass epidemic of Typhus that was killing millions during the war and what steps were being made across Europe on both sides to handle it.  Tell us about the allied forces bombing railway lines which stopped much needed food supplies, military blunders, friendly fire incidents, war profiteers, soldiers and manpower shortages, mass retreats, describing how food and resources were spread thin across large areas with mass poverty, starvation, and disease everywhere and what the average French, British, and German citizen was going through at various stages of the war.  This is the kind of basic black and white perspective the viewers should be able to receive with no bias towards any side.  I just long for a documentary that tells the cold truths and tells us how it really was in proper perspective without the generic sinister music and Dr. Evil stereotypes.

 

Image result for dr evil laugh gif

 

Image result for chaplin hitler gif

 

You keep jumping back to WWII, I think the documentaries do accurately describe the situations and conditions of the war. Nothing was done to the Axis powers that they hadn't done themselves, they set the stage for the entire war. They fire bombed cities, murdered civilians, and began the mass extermination of entire races of people, where do you think the world would be at if they won the war. So I really don't agree with your thoughts on this subject, I beleive they received what they deserved especially since they started the War in the first place. However, I also beleive that today they no longer deserve such treatment, but you can never forget the past because if you do it may be repeated.

JIMO

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10 hours ago, Aaron2016 said:

Watching history documentaries about WW2 and they are clearly biased and filled with hatred towards the Axis nations.

:mellow:

Actually I do know what you're saying. There never seems to be any serious questioning. It's always "Chamberlain was a fool that was conned by Hitler" or "was a shameful coward who was responsible through his cowardice for Hitler seizing Czechoslovakia", regardless of the fact that there was absolutely nothing he could have done for Czechoslovakia, and that his buying a year was the best thing he could have done to buy some time to begin to modernize Britain's defences, particularly the RAF.  If Britain had gone to war with Hitler in 1938 it would probably have ended in embarrassing humiliation and a humiliating grovelling for a peace treaty. But then, no ever says that it was exactly the same regarding Poland; again, there was nothing they could have done to help Poland, unless France had been willing to do anything to threaten Germany seriously and so force Hitler to divert some of his attention , which of course they weren't' the last thing they wanted was to provoke Germany again. And there's always these books and TV documentaries harping on about the Blitz and how uniquely evil the Nazis were for doing such a thing, when , well ... :mellow:

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2 hours ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said:

:mellow:

Actually I do know what you're saying. There never seems to be any serious questioning. It's always "Chamberlain was a fool that was conned by Hitler" or "was a shameful coward who was responsible through his cowardice for Hitler seizing Czechoslovakia", regardless of the fact that there was absolutely nothing he could have done for Czechoslovakia, and that his buying a year was the best thing he could have done to buy some time to begin to modernize Britain's defences, particularly the RAF.  If Britain had gone to war with Hitler in 1938 it would probably have ended in embarrassing humiliation and a humiliating grovelling for a peace treaty. But then, no ever says that it was exactly the same regarding Poland; again, there was nothing they could have done to help Poland, unless France had been willing to do anything to threaten Germany seriously and so force Hitler to divert some of his attention , which of course they weren't' the last thing they wanted was to provoke Germany again. And there's always these books and TV documentaries harping on about the Blitz and how uniquely evil the Nazis were for doing such a thing, when , well ... :mellow:

Exactly.  It is always one sided.  The Nazis are always painted as evil beyond redemption, but the vast majority were hard working decent people, and my relatives met and described them as the most polite and kind people they ever met and when they were confronted with stories of the atrocities and contempt for the Jews the soldiers they met said they were shocked and disgusted by those claims, and wanted to emphasize that both they and their comrades should not be held responsible for what happened, but the broad stereotypes that were continually printed in history books made them bitter and annoyed, and they would probably be saddened to see the same old 'devil like stereotypes' now repeated in TV documentaries.

It should all be put into context.  The good and the bad on both sides.

 

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19 hours ago, Aaron2016 said:

Should documentaries become politically correct in today's progressive era?  e.g.  Watching history documentaries about WW2 and they are clearly biased and filled with hatred towards the Axis nations.  Should they be edited or remade to become more politically correct, or at the very least tone down the aggression and drop the propaganda.  It's got to the point that my cousins refuse to watch WW2 documentaries because they have been fed so much hysterical bs that they now think the Germans and Japanese are the spawns of Satan.  It does not exactly help public relations between (now friendly) countries when one side is still broadcasting propaganda and demonstrating blatant hatred and contempt against the other, especially as it is still regarded as recent history.  There must be around 200 documentaries on each week which directly or indirectly insults an entire nation, past and present.  Should history be protected with a PC law and finally be allowed to be studied and viewed with a clean unbiased perspective and not be constantly one sided?

 

The stereotype is always the same.

 

history.png

 

No.  Political correctness should  not be a concern for documentaries.  They are almost always biased by the filmmaker and people just have to grow up and realize that. 

As for your comment about the WW 2 documentaries, who won that war?  Those are who make the documentaries and write the history books.  And why do you use the word hatred in your comment about bias against the Axis?  What do you know that would make them less evil?  Maybe you could do a documentary with your bias and we could have a more balanced view watching the current documentaries and then your rebuttal of them.  I don't watch war documentaries because it is unnessessary to rehash the same crap over and over, there is nothing new coming out about WW1 or WW2 so why bother. 

If your cousins refuse to watch the documentaries, leave them alone about it.  They are smart and can make up their own minds.  Rational people know that Japan and Germany are not satanic countries.  They had their reasons as countries to do what they did and the citizens had very little choice in any of it, just like we have very little choice in whether or why we have troops in the middle east.

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