Serious Research into Ghosts?

[psyche101]

2 minutes ago, openozy said:

And he still knows nothing about it.

Again, how can you support this?

His devotion and qualifications say otherwise. On what basis should they be dismissed? 

[openozy]

6 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

Brains do some wonderful things for us, quite frequently.

I haven't seen much evidence of that from you.

[psyche101]

1 minute ago, Habitat said:

Poor devil has another think coming. If he's lucky

Really?

I've yet to see you start, so forgive my mirth.

[Habitat]

3 minutes ago, openozy said:

And he still knows nothing about it.

That a  yokel from the backblocks of NSW knows more about it than Sean, says they are running a very different regime in the beyond.

[Habitat]

1 minute ago, openozy said:

I haven't seen much evidence of that from you.

He could start by keeping his assumptions down to a bare minimum.

[openozy]

2 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Again, how can you support this?

His devotion and qualifications say otherwise. On what basis should they be dismissed? 

Just by his statement,sounds like he is devoted to his own ego before anything.

[Habitat]

1 minute ago, openozy said:

Just by his statement,sounds like he is devoted to his own ego before anything.

He has gone the early crow, without the data. Bad science.

[openozy]

2 minutes ago, Habitat said:

That a  yokel from the backblocks of NSW knows more about it than Sean, says they are running a very different regime in the beyond.

I grew up in Sydney but I agree with the other part.

[Habitat]

The real point though, is what do you lose by leaving such things, as a possibility ? I guess if you have a brain like a Commodore 64 with very limited storage, one has to cull that which takes up space.

[psyche101]

2 minutes ago, openozy said:

Just by his statement,sounds like he is devoted to his own ego before anything.

Why, it is supported in depth at the link.

Did you not agree a couple pages back it is wrong to blindly dismiss? He provides a well thought out completely supported argument. You would be better off saying what you disagree with rather than what seems more like hate fuelled blind dismissal.

What is incorrect, or even misleading in the presentation he offers outlining the sciences that refute life after death?

Remember, this current discussion is because you said science has no say in this matter, but as you can see, it firmly does.

[psyche101]

8 minutes ago, openozy said:

Just by his statement,sounds like he is devoted to his own ego before anything.

Lol, when you sink to agreeing with Hab, you know you're on the backfoot

[ChrLzs]

13 minutes ago, Habitat said:

Poor devil has another think coming. If he's lucky

There's only a problem if you think these phenomena are like normal phenomena, and can be regarded as open to the same kind of investigation and detection. That appears to be a bad assumption.

Jeez, what a waste of a handwave.  You didn't address a single thing I said.  It seems all logic, all common sense, all thinking of any nature whatsoever, gets thrown out the window.

 

Next time, how about you actually address what I said?

[openozy]

2 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

What is incorrect, or even misleading in the presentation he offers outlining the sciences that refute life after death?

If you can explain how they make that statement go ahead,it's so incorrect it is laughable

[Habitat]

Just now, ChrLzs said:

Jeez, what a waste of a handwave.  You didn't address a single thing I said.  It seems all logic, all common sense, all thinking of any nature whatsoever, gets thrown out the window.

 

Next time, how about you actually address what I said?

Common sense isn't ignored at all, but when you have witnessed enough of this stuff, common sense is to realize it isn't "minds playing tricks" BS.

[Habitat]

4 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Lol, when you sink to agreeing with Hab, you know you're on the backfoot

Even though he is a Blues supporter, amazingly, he is correct.

[ChrLzs]

And when all you've got left is to avoid the issues and give out lame ad hominems not even worthy of a playground.......

[Habitat]

Just now, ChrLzs said:

And when all you've got left is to avoid the issues and give out lame ad hominems not even worthy of a playground.......

Relax charlie, we are all friends here I think ?  I reiterate, nothing is lost by leaving such matters as undecided, in your own mind.

[psyche101]

1 minute ago, openozy said:

If you can explain how they make that statement go ahead,it's so incorrect it is laughable

Simply put

The mind is the brain

The brain is made of atoms

We know how atoms work

The brain is extremely complex

There is no way in nature to maintain that complexity.

There's nothing laughable about it. It's elegantly simple. 

[psyche101]

6 minutes ago, openozy said:

When you sink to agreeing with chrlzs you know you are at the back door 

I doubt you would, or could say that considering photography. He knows the subject better than anyone on the forum. We all have certain strengths, excepting that certain poster. Why do you say his conclusion is incorrect in this instance? 

You have said a lot of things about people with evidence. I'd rather see you discuss the evidence. That's where the information these people are offering comes from. You are shooting messengers. 

[openozy]

5 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Simply put

The mind is the brain

The brain is made of atoms

We know how atoms work

The brain is extremely complex

There is no way in nature to maintain that complexity.

There's nothing laughable about it. It's elegantly simple. 

But it's not the soul.

[openozy]

1 minute ago, psyche101 said:

He knows the subject better than anyone on the forum

Well he should stick to his photography,because he has no other redeeming qualities that I've seen.

[openozy]

4 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

I'd rather see you discuss the evidence

I'd like to see the evidence to prove that the paranormal dosen't exist.Yeah, I don't think their is one.

[openozy]

8 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

You have said a lot of things about people with evidence

What evidence?

[openozy]

16 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

And when all you've got left is to avoid the issues and give out lame ad hominems not even worthy of a playground.......

I thought it was amusing,and true 

[Habitat]

8 minutes ago, openozy said:

Well he should stick to his photography,because he has no other redeeming qualities that I've seen.

It's just a mania they have, that drives them to want a nailed-down world view, one where humans are the big fish in the pond, that might explain the widely varied things the Dr No types don't like being regarded as real, like UFO's for example. No God, no UFOs, just humans at the top of the heap.