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Serious Research into Ghosts?

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openozy
2 minutes ago, Habitat said:

It's just a mania they have, that drives them to want a nailed-down world view, one where humans are the big fish in the pond, that might explain the widely varied things the Dr No types don't like being regarded as real, like UFO's for example. No God, no UFOs, just humans at the top of the heap.

I feel sorry for these people,I suppose it saved money on presents from Santa.

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Habitat
1 minute ago, openozy said:

I feel sorry for these people,I suppose it saved money on presents from Santa.

It does conflict with their image of themselves as hard-nosed science types, that they continually dismiss that which really ought be left in their "can't say" basket.

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openozy
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2 minutes ago, Habitat said:

It does conflict with their image of themselves as hard-nosed science types, that they continually dismiss that which really ought be left in their "can't say" basket.

I don't think most scientists limit themselves like that.

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Habitat
1 minute ago, openozy said:

I'd call it a limited mind.

There is something important at stake, for there to be so many, so consistently banging the same drum. They will tell you it is as a public service, I will tell you it is a service to themselves, to try and be rid of doubts. The best plan would be to just accept that having doubts is not a demerit, in fact it is an indispensable part of being a good thinker. But the doubts must be of a kind that involves fear.

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psyche101
31 minutes ago, openozy said:

But it's not the soul.

Yes it is 

You're romanticising an old superstition. Soul is the character of a person. You are the sum of your experiences, how your brain works is the only realistic soul. 

Why should a non material soul exist? What reasoning leads to that conclusion?

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psyche101
31 minutes ago, openozy said:

Well he should stick to his photography,because he has no other redeeming qualities that I've seen.

His critical thinking skills are highly regarded amongst many in the forum.

Rather than let personal opinion waste space, where specifically is he wrong in this instance? That's what matters here isn't it?

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psyche101
28 minutes ago, openozy said:

I'd like to see the evidence to prove that the paranormal dosen't exist.Yeah, I don't think their is one.

I'm specifically referring to afterlife concepts. One step at a time. That's the thread topic. 

 

28 minutes ago, openozy said:

What evidence?

The evidence in the link. Physics.

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psyche101
18 minutes ago, openozy said:

I feel sorry for these people,I suppose it saved money on presents from Santa.

How do you come to that conclusion? How are Santa and the paranormal connected?

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psyche101
14 minutes ago, openozy said:

I don't think most scientists limit themselves like that.

All scientists in the best positions.

Only those calling themselves scientists who are not and fringe nobodies voice such unsupported opinions.

Physics is what it is. It's not shaped by opinion.

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openozy
1 minute ago, psyche101 said:

How do you come to that conclusion? How are Santa and the paranormal connected?

Oh science.

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psyche101
Just now, openozy said:

Oh science.

That makes no sense whatsoever. Celebrations are not associated.

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openozy
1 minute ago, psyche101 said:

That makes no sense whatsoever. Celebrations are not associated.

Rather than oh God,I thought that may offend lol.

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openozy
8 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

His critical thinking skills are highly regarded amongst many in the forum.

But not all.

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psyche101
3 minutes ago, openozy said:

Rather than oh God,I thought that may offend lol.

I consider it a time of famiy celebration. That's a good thing.

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psyche101
2 minutes ago, openozy said:

But not all.

But what is incorrect or misleading about his argument?

That's what matters isn't it?

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openozy
9 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

The evidence in the link. Physics.

 

7 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Physics is what it is. It's not shaped by opinion

Probably why I'm not interested in it

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psyche101
Just now, openozy said:

Probably why I'm not interested in it

Isn't that doing what you accused me of though?

Being closed minded, refusing to even consider other information?

I'm happy to discuss any real information you can provide.

This is what I was talking about earlier. How can listening to both sides be closed minded just because I go with the well and better supported solution?

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openozy
3 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

But what is incorrect or misleading about his argument?

That's what matters isn't it?

I don't like his catty attitude,so dismiss most of his ramblings.

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psyche101
Just now, openozy said:

I don't like his catty attitude,so dismiss most of his ramblings.

What catty attitude? He is voicing the well supported conclusions that physics results in. How is stating facts catty?

With all due respect, It really sounds more like a personal problem on your behalf?

During that presentation, I found his witty sense of humour delightful and his approach very down to earth. It seems your making wide assumptions based on a single statement that offends your beliefs?

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openozy
Just now, psyche101 said:

I'm happy to discuss any real information you can provide.

That's not true,you disregard my experiences as nonsense. 

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openozy
2 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

 

During that presentation, I found his witty sense of humour delightful and his approach very down to earth.

Get a room lol.

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psyche101
1 minute ago, openozy said:

That's not true,you disregard my experiences as nonsense. 

Not at all. I don't question that you have had experiences that you cannot explain.

I question your firm stance that they support afterlife theories better than physics. There is undeniable evidence that directly contradicts your conclusion. Another answer seems more likely than utter nonsense.

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Habitat
6 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

I found his witty sense of humour delightful

Good Lord, he is forever engaging in sarcasm, and who said that was the lowest form of wit ?

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psyche101
4 minutes ago, openozy said:

Get a room lol.

How about just discussing the verified information presented?

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psyche101
Just now, Habitat said:

Good Lord, he is forever engaging in sarcasm, and who said that was the lowest form of wit ?

Someone who hasn't met you yet?

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