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Trump Urged Top Aide to Help Giuliani Client

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President Donald Trump pressed then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to three people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office.

Tillerson refused, arguing it would constitute interference in an ongoing investigation of the trader, Reza Zarrab, according to the people. They said other participants in the Oval Office were shocked by the request.

Tillerson immediately repeated his objections to then-Chief of Staff John Kelly in a hallway conversation just outside the Oval Office, emphasizing that the request would be illegal. Neither episode has been previously reported, and all of the people spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the conversations.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-10-09/trump-urged-top-aide-to-help-giuliani-client-facing-doj-charges?__twitter_impression=true

Interfering in an ongoing investigation on behalf of a friend is third world dictator levels of corruption and abuse of power. It's almost the exact crime that proved the 'smoking gun' in the Watergate investigation.

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In late July 1974, the White House released the subpoenaed tapes. One of these tapes, recorded six days after the Watergate break-in, was quickly dubbed the "smoking gun" tape after a transcript was publicly released on August 5, 1974.[37][34] In the recording of the June 23, 1972, meeting, Nixon agrees that administration officials should approach Richard Helms, Director of the CIA, and Vernon A. Walters, Deputy Director, and ask them to request L. Patrick Gray, Acting Director of the FBI, to halt the Bureau's investigation into the Watergate break-in on the grounds that it was a national security matter. The special prosecutor felt that Nixon, in so agreeing, had entered into a criminal conspiracy whose goal was the obstruction of justice.[citation needed]

Once the "smoking gun" transcript was made public, Nixon's political support practically vanished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_White_House_tapes#The_"smoking_gun"_tape

 

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RoofGardener

Three un-named people, and no comment from Rex Tillerton ? 

How did these three people hear a conversation in a corridor outside the White House ? 

I am deeply sceptical of this claim. 

Let them step into the spotlight, identify themselves, and THEN I'll believe it. 

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1 minute ago, RoofGardener said:

Three un-named people, and no comment from Rex Tillerton ? 

How did these three people hear a conversation in a corridor outside the White House ? 

I am deeply sceptical of this claim. 

Let them step into the spotlight, identify themselves, and THEN I'll believe it. 

This is the dam breaking. People have been holding onto this for years but now the writing is on the wall. This claim is actually worse than the Ukraine scandal.

We'll have confirmation once the House subpoenas Tillerson. 

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11 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Three un-named people, and no comment from Rex Tillerton ? 

How did these three people hear a conversation in a corridor outside the White House ? 

I am deeply sceptical of this claim. 

Let them step into the spotlight, identify themselves, and THEN I'll believe it. 

It only goes downhill from here.  They'll be trying to convince people that Trump eats babies and shoots puppies for fun before 11/3/2020.  There is NO crime they can accuse him of that his supporters and many independents are going to believe at this point.  Mayhap it has something to do with the 3 years of false, hysterical claims.  

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ExpandMyMind
3 minutes ago, and then said:

There is NO crime they can accuse him of that his supporters and many independents are going to believe at this point

It's sort of an achievement for someone to be so self-aware of their own ignorance. I'm not even sure it really counts as ignorance at that point.

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Dumbledore the Awesome

Do you subscribe to the Daily Trump Scandal newsletter? 

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Dumbledore the Awesome
1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said:

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Well, twitter has the impression that it's true, so that settles it! 

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RoofGardener
1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said:

This is the dam breaking. People have been holding onto this for years but now the writing is on the wall. This claim is actually worse than the Ukraine scandal.

We'll have confirmation once the House subpoenas Tillerson. 

 

1 hour ago, and then said:

It only goes downhill from here.  They'll be trying to convince people that Trump eats babies and shoots puppies for fun before 11/3/2020.  There is NO crime they can accuse him of that his supporters and many independents are going to believe at this point.  Mayhap it has something to do with the 3 years of false, hysterical claims.  

And that's my point. Based on the "evidence" thus far, I can't differentiate between this latest "revelation", and many of the previous hysterical claims. 

18 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said:

Do you subscribe to the Daily Trump Scandal newsletter? 

Don't be RIDICULOUS @Dumbledore the Awesome. You are degenerating into hysteria. There are NOT scandals breaking daily. 

The Weekly Trump Scandal  newsletter, perhaps :D :P 

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RoofGardener
1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said:

This is the dam breaking. People have been holding onto this for years but now the writing is on the wall. This claim is actually worse than the Ukraine scandal.

We'll have confirmation once the House subpoenas Tillerson. 

Well, that is very true @ExpandMyMind. I'll look forward to that. But what happens if Tillerson IS subpoenaed, and deny's any such conversation took place ? Will these "whistleblowers" come forward to testify ? 

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Robotic Jew
3 hours ago, and then said:

It only goes downhill from here.  They'll be trying to convince people that Trump eats babies and shoots puppies for fun before 11/3/2020.  There is NO crime they can accuse him of that his supporters and many independents are going to believe at this point.  Mayhap it has something to do with the 3 years of false, hysterical claims.  

So your prediction is that they will finally start stooping to republicans level and treat him like they do hilary??

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Buzz_Light_Year
5 minutes ago, Robotic Jew said:

So your prediction is that they will finally start stooping to republicans level and treat him like they do hilary??

Well if they treat him like they do Hillary then Trump could eat babies and shoot puppies and get away with it.

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aztek

liberal desperation is outright disgusting by now. 

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RAyMO
8 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Let them step into the spotlight, identify themselves, and THEN I'll believe it.

No you wouldn't :D

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Tatetopa

Some of you seem to think all of the hysterical claims you make about Hillary are true and everything reported about Donald is false.

They are both crooks.

Some might think that because Trump was an outsider that he is free of the stain of politics.  But I bet the New York Real Estate  business thrives on winking at the law and doing solids for friends of friends.  Some day they do a favor in return.

You avoided Hillary and got your own crook.  The funny part is that you can't bring yourself to believe he is a crook too.

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hacktorp
11 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Some of you seem to think all of the hysterical claims you make about Hillary are true and everything reported about Donald is false.

They are both crooks.

This seems like more wishful thinking that somehow HRC (and those who rode her coattails) and DJT will, in the end, be judged as criminal equals and a "draw" be declared.

Not gonna happen.

One of those two is going to go down much, much harder than the other.

If you had to pick, which one will get the worst of it?

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RAyMO
16 minutes ago, hacktorp said:

This seems like more wishful thinking that somehow HRC (and those who rode her coattails) and DJT will, in the end, be judged as criminal equals and a "draw" be declared.

Not gonna happen.

One of those two is going to go down much, much harder than the other.

If you had to pick, which one will get the worst of it?

Trump and Clinton allegedly criminal equals lol - they are not even in the same league. Ones a very poor second but just as allegedly criminal.

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hacktorp
15 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

Trump and Clinton allegedly criminal equals lol - they are not even in the same league. Ones a very poor second but just as allegedly criminal.

So...which is which?

What do you think will happen to the worst offender?

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Dumbledore the Awesome

I'm not saying I agree with all the "H. Clinton was in charge of a secret ring that abducted children and served them up in pizza restaurants" theme, but the foreign policies that she loudly expressed and her attitudes towards "America's Adversaries" were enough to identify her very plainly as a psychopath. 

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Robotic Jew
Just now, hacktorp said:

So...which is which?

What do you think will happen to the worst offender?

Trump is currently the only one under a legitimate investigation for anything

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hacktorp
Just now, Robotic Jew said:

Trump is currently the only one under a legitimate investigation for anything

Didn't AG Bill Barr say that Hillary is under DOJ investigation that will "hopefully soon come to fruition"?

Also, recent reports have stated that John Durham's investigation into the 2016 election has broadened "exponentially"...which almost certainly includes HRC's involvement.

Are those not legitimate investigations?

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Robotic Jew
1 minute ago, hacktorp said:

Didn't AG Bill Barr say that Hillary is under DOJ investigation that will "hopefully soon come to fruition"?

Also, recent reports have stated that John Durham's investigation into the 2016 election has broadened "exponentially"...which almost certainly includes HRC's involvement.

Are those not legitimate investigations?

hahahahahahahahah.

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hacktorp
Just now, Robotic Jew said:

hahahahahahahahah.

Please explain

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14 minutes ago, hacktorp said:

Please explain

Those are partisan witch hunts and fake news perpetrated by the right. come on man. you know how this works.....

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OverSword
6 hours ago, Robotic Jew said:

So your prediction is that they will finally start stooping to republicans level and treat him like they do hilary??

That's not fair.  Hillary does eat babies and shoot puppies.  Usually while smoking crack.

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