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Germany's "new Hitler" is on the rise


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22 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

What sayings and slogans have they copied from the Nazis?

You think Trump and Boris are extreme macho nationalists too. With that in mind what kind of credibility do you think your claims have with people like myself? I will tell you, none lol.

Germany right now is going through the post-war trauma of unrestricted immigration. They cannot adopt sensible immigration policies because anything other that total capitulation has people crying Nazi. Thats why the AFD exists. Its the ordinary German people (not extremists) wanting unrestricted immigration stopped. Just look what happened with Syria, 2 million immigrants in a single year.

Not 50,000 but 2 million!

Let's start with Lügenpresse (lying press), which your beloved Trump is misusing in 'fake news' version of translation. Though he himself is the most prominent peddler of actual fake news.

The source of his ridiculous lies are the same that gave you the 2 million immigrants and post-war trauma they caused. 

You liars have to tone your outrageous claims a little, lying so blatantly is counter-productive. Like in that story of a stupid boy who cried wolf all the time, no one believes you anymore. Except those who are willingly swallowing the propaganda swill because it gives them the excuse to hate someone and feel a little less insecure because they've been told the foreigners are subhumans.     

 

I have to go now, if I manage to arrive alive all the way to my bed, with all those immigrants waging war against blond Christ in my hallway.  

Oh, look... there's none. 

To be honest, I'm more worried with retarded illegitimate children of Faux and Putin setting their houses on fire, which may spread on my house too.  

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2 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

... show me actual evidence that the AFD is Nazi.

As a German I have a very sensitive radar to be able to detect whats nazi and what not. A lot of non-Germans have that radar too but you dont. National socialism dont start with burning book, tight black uniforms and polished riding boots. It start with the first point on the how-to list: create a mob and make it fury. And thats exactly what the AFD is doing.  You dont need to see them on YT performing the Hitler salute, you just have to listen to them, thats sufficient to be able to judge about their mission, politic and target.

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14 hours ago, toast said:

As a German I have a very sensitive radar to be able to detect whats nazi and what not. A lot of non-Germans have that radar too but you dont. National socialism dont start with burning book, tight black uniforms and polished riding boots. It start with the first point on the how-to list: create a mob and make it fury. And thats exactly what the AFD is doing.  You dont need to see them on YT performing the Hitler salute, you just have to listen to them, thats sufficient to be able to judge about their mission, politic and target.

I think your people have a right to a German Germany.

To me that means no more than 50,000 immigrants per year for a country of your size. Mass immigration against the will of the people by Merkel is a national disgrace. She is population engineering your nation to create more people who will say yes to her particular brand of politics and yes to the EU. Its a subversion of Democracy in Germany.

The AFD have normal policies. I have watched several of their conferences on YouTube and read their policy pledges. If anything, they are a centre-right to moderate-right party which is anti-immigration. The reason why they are being character assassinated as Nazis is because of their anti-immigration policies. You have a brand of politician in Germany which similar to the UK and USA cries Nazi at anything other than complete capitulation to immigration.

They do it to Trump, they do it to Boris and Farage, and they do it to your AFD.

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Germany for the Germans. Yes, that's been tried before. 

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2 hours ago, hetrodoxly said:

That was the best thing about Nazis.

Hitler did one good thing. He killed Hitler.

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6 minutes ago, hetrodoxly said:

I wished he hadn't took so long.

I believe he is in the top 5 of histories worst mass murderers.

When will we break free from WW2 and start running our countries normally again? I hope we dont have to wait another 100 years for it to happen.

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4 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

I believe he is in the top 5 of histories worst mass murderers.

When will we break free from WW2 and start running our countries normally again? I hope we dont have to wait another 100 years for it to happen.

What does "running our countries normally" mean to you ?

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2 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

What does "running our countries normally" mean to you ?

A normal Government would be moderate left, centre left, centre, centre right, or moderate right.

There is huge pressure from the left to stop centre right and moderate right politics by reframing them all as extreme right. See what they are doing to Trump, Boris, and Farage.

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1 minute ago, RabidMongoose said:

A normal Government would be moderate left, centre left, centre, centre right, or moderate right.

Our government is centrist, so is that a normal government ?

1 minute ago, RabidMongoose said:

There is huge pressure from the left to stop centre right and moderate right politics by reframing them all as extreme right. See what they are doing to Trump, Boris, and Farage.

Maybe Trump would be treated with more respect if he started to act like a responsible adult instead of a petulant child ? If you act like a child don't expect to be treated like an adult.

As for Boris and Farrage maybe they should spend their time getting Brexit to work, afterall they both thought it was a great idea. If they did that maybe they would get more respect ? Do people really treat Boris as an extreme right politician and not merely an incompetent one ?

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2 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Our government is centrist, so is that a normal government ?

Maybe Trump would be treated with more respect if he started to act like a responsible adult instead of a petulant child ? If you act like a child don't expect to be treated like an adult.

As for Boris and Farrage maybe they should spend their time getting Brexit to work, afterall they both thought it was a great idea. If they did that maybe they would get more respect ? Do people really treat Boris as an extreme right politician and not merely an incompetent one ?

Centrist means centre so yes thats a normal Government.

Regardless of whether you see Trump as a petulant child or not, that doesnt make him far-right. Some of the hysteria about him quite frankly borders on the ludicrous. Same for Farage. Boris has been a little racist at times such as using the terms towelheads and bongo-bongo land but isn't far-right.

He likes to upset people like Trump.

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On 10/29/2019 at 2:30 PM, RabidMongoose said:

Some people wont be told. They actually believe Hitler manipulated the Germans into following him using propaganda and by being a ruthless tyrant. They have no mental comprehension that the Germans were climbing over backwards to follow him because they wanted too.

I freely admit I'm no scholar of German history.  My understanding of his rise to power was limited to his role as saving them from the crushing shame and economic debilitation of post Versailles Germany.  In fact, had he not been such a vicious nutter, and had he stepped aside in the late 30s, he might have been ranked as the best German leader of the modern era.  The people followed him because of the positives he brought to them in the post-depression era.  By the time he began to show his true colors, his "infrastructure" of evil was so firmly entrenched that dissenters knew they faced death and were cowed by that knowledge.

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13 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

You have a brand of politician in Germany which similar to the UK and USA cries Nazi at anything other than complete capitulation to immigration..

Yep, dont dare be an opponent of internationalism, multiculturalism or globalism, in todays messed up world of politics, that puts a target on your head and large Swastika flag flying in the background.

Dont dare, show or speak about nationalism, patriotism, or even consider and entertain the thought that your country and fellow citizens show some pride in their culture, heritage and traditions in any favourable light, you must be a frothing at the mouth Neo-Nazi.

Dont forget to not favour natural born citizens over immigrants either, you are and must be racist, Xenophobic and Islamaphobic without a doubt.

Pathetic and disturbingly sickening at the same time.

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On 11/10/2019 at 1:41 PM, RabidMongoose said:

I think your people have a right to a German Germany.

I dont think that non-Germans have to tell me, as a German, what are the rights of us Germans. People who try to tell us our rights, and are not Germans, can eat out German a**es, all of them.

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To me that means no more than 50,000 immigrants per year for a country of your size.

The 50k value is based on your personal opinion and not on social studies, or something like that, with usable results. Thus, the 50k value is irrelevant.

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Mass immigration against the will of the people by Merkel is a national disgrace.

"Against the peoples will"?

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"Sixty per cent of those without a migration background who were surveyed believe that Germany should continue to receive refugees, even if it were the only EU member state to do so. Results vary across migrant groups, though, with the highest level of agreement registered among people of Turkish descent–slightly more of whom agreed with this statement than those in the majority population did. Ethnic German resettlers are markedly more cautious, with the majority coming out against Germany receiving more refugees.Results for EU and RoW migrants were somewhere in between(around 52 and 57 per cent, respectively)."

Source: Summary of the 2018 Integration Barometer

Please provide a proof to back your claim 100% of the German citizen dont agree with our current immigration policy.

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She is population engineering your nation to create more people who will say yes to her particular brand of politics and yes to the EU. Its a subversion of Democracy in Germany.

In 2019, there are 64,8M German citizens entitled to vote. In 2018, 185K asylum applications were created, 127k up until today in 2019. The average asylum distribution in 2018 and 2019 is 36,25%. So we are talking about 113k people here and no, this number has no concise influence, even not with a voter turnout of 100%. Population engineering? No. A CT, yes. Yours.

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The AFD have normal policies. I have watched several of their conferences on YouTube and read their policy pledges. If anything, they are a centre-right to moderate-right party which is anti-immigration.

You might think this kind of politics to be some kind of normal, I`m not and I´m much closer to the issue.

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They do it to Trump, they do it to Boris and Farage, and they do it to your AFD.

Might be but the question is: why do stupid people stupid things for stupids?

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53 minutes ago, toast said:

I dont think that non-Germans have to tell me, as a German, what are the rights of us Germans. People who try to tell us our rights, and are not Germans, can eat out German a**es, all of them.

The 50k value is based on your personal opinion and not on social studies, or something like that, with usable results. Thus, the 50k value is irrelevant.

"Against the peoples will"?

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"Sixty per cent of those without a migration background who were surveyed believe that Germany should continue to receive refugees, even if it were the only EU member state to do so. Results vary across migrant groups, though, with the highest level of agreement registered among people of Turkish descent–slightly more of whom agreed with this statement than those in the majority population did. Ethnic German resettlers are markedly more cautious, with the majority coming out against Germany receiving more refugees.Results for EU and RoW migrants were somewhere in between(around 52 and 57 per cent, respectively)."

Source: Summary of the 2018 Integration Barometer

Please provide a proof to back your claim 100% of the German citizen dont agree with our current immigration policy.

In 2019, there are 64,8M German citizens entitled to vote. In 2018, 185K asylum applications were created, 127k up until today in 2019. The average asylum distribution in 2018 and 2019 is 36,25%. So we are talking about 113k people here and no, this number has no concise influence, even not with a voter turnout of 100%. Population engineering? No. A CT, yes. Yours.

You might think this kind of politics to be some kind of normal, I`m not and I´m much closer to the issue.

Might be but the question is: why do stupid people stupid things for stupids?

Well if that is true (and not distorted statistics and polls) then the AFD wont grow into a major party.

So there is no real issue.

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On 11/9/2019 at 12:39 PM, RabidMongoose said:

Where does it say they think only blonde children can play Jesus?

Where and when did Hitler directly say he hates Jews?

 

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3 hours ago, toast said:

I dont think that non-Germans have to tell me, as a German, what are the rights of us Germans. People who try to tell us our rights, and are not Germans, can eat out German a**es, all of them.

The 50k value is based on your personal opinion and not on social studies, or something like that, with usable results. Thus, the 50k value is irrelevant.

"Against the peoples will"?

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"Sixty per cent of those without a migration background who were surveyed believe that Germany should continue to receive refugees, even if it were the only EU member state to do so. Results vary across migrant groups, though, with the highest level of agreement registered among people of Turkish descent–slightly more of whom agreed with this statement than those in the majority population did. Ethnic German resettlers are markedly more cautious, with the majority coming out against Germany receiving more refugees.Results for EU and RoW migrants were somewhere in between(around 52 and 57 per cent, respectively)."

Source: Summary of the 2018 Integration Barometer

Please provide a proof to back your claim 100% of the German citizen dont agree with our current immigration policy.

In 2019, there are 64,8M German citizens entitled to vote. In 2018, 185K asylum applications were created, 127k up until today in 2019. The average asylum distribution in 2018 and 2019 is 36,25%. So we are talking about 113k people here and no, this number has no concise influence, even not with a voter turnout of 100%. Population engineering? No. A CT, yes. Yours.

You might think this kind of politics to be some kind of normal, I`m not and I´m much closer to the issue.

Might be but the question is: why do stupid people stupid things for stupids?

O o oooo, hold on Toast. You are using facts. That should not be allowed.

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48 minutes ago, odas said:

O o oooo, hold on Toast. You are using facts. That should not be allowed.

Sorry, my fault, will not happen again!

( :lol: )

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On 11/11/2019 at 9:02 AM, toast said:

I dont think that non-Germans have to tell me, as a German, what are the rights of us Germans. People who try to tell us our rights, and are not Germans, can eat out German a**es, all of them

Funny, but everyone around the world and here at UM seem to think it's their right to not only tell Americans what our rights are but how we should think and feel and what we should do. Different when its about your country...right? I feel what you're saying.... :yes:

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22 hours ago, skliss said:

Funny, but everyone around the world and here at UM seem to think it's their right to not only tell Americans what our rights are but how we should think and feel and what we should do. Different when its about your country...right? I feel what you're saying.... :yes:

Well, far to long Americans told everyone else what to think, who to vote for, who can or cannot be a president, who can or cannot produce and sell whatever the country has.

Secondly, people like Toast are trying to prevent what happened in the past to happen again and people who push for Right extremism want the past to repeat itself.

The same ideology helped Hitler to rise to power. Noone, in the early stage of the NSDAP ( AFD today ) really was against Adolf. Not UK, not USA. 

Hitler singled out a minority and the worlds right supremacists groups stood behind him, just like they do now here on UM with AFD, LePenn and other fasist groups.

Your president gave the nazis in germany and around the world what they needed again - a strong voice.

 

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31 minutes ago, odas said:

Well, far to long Americans told everyone else what to think, who to vote for, who can or cannot be a president, who can or cannot produce and sell whatever the country has.

Secondly, people like Toast are trying to prevent what happened in the past to happen again and people who push for Right extremism want the past to repeat itself.

The same ideology helped Hitler to rise to power. Noone, in the early stage of the NSDAP ( AFD today ) really was against Adolf. Not UK, not USA. 

Hitler singled out a minority and the worlds right supremacists groups stood behind him, just like they do now here on UM with AFD, LePenn and other fasist groups.

Your president gave the nazis in germany and around the world what they needed again - a strong voice.

 

I agree that Trump is giving nazis and white supremecists a voice but he is not a strong voice, he is whinger, and a bully and rational people can see that.  I think there are enough rational people in all western countries to see it as what it is.

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5 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

I agree that Trump is giving nazis and white supremecists a voice but he is not a strong voice, he is whinger, and a bully and rational people can see that.  I think there are enough rational people in all western countries to see it as what it is.

Toast is one of the rationals what cannot be said about those who cheer for AFD.

A quick rundown on immigration and guestworkers in Germany: Do you know who got all the foreign workers importet to Germany? The CDU. The regular German "right". In the sixties. Those people, like my father, helped Germany grow and become one of the best countries in the world. 

Some of them, the guestworkers, were bad apples. Mostly from ex-yugoslavija. But they did not represent the vast majority of the other guestworkers from ex-yu who fit in, worked hard, had families and friends. 

Today, most immigrants want the same. Work, fit in, raise a family and those small numbers of idiots among them should not define the rest.

The AFD does not make a difference between a hard working immigrant and a lazy drug dealing or whatever immigrant.

I am all for it, any immigrant that does not obey by german rules, deals with drugs, incites religious hatered in Germany,  should be deported. Every normal person, German or immigrant thinks like that. But no normal German thinks like the AFD and their supporters.

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2 minutes ago, odas said:

Toast is one of the rationals what cannot be said about those who cheer for AFD.

A quick rundown on immigration and guestworkers in Germany: Do you know who got all the foreign workers importet to Germany? The CDU. The regular German "right". In the sixties. Those people, like my father, helped Germany grow and become one of the best countries in the world. 

Some of them, the guestworkers, were bad apples. Mostly from ex-yugoslavija. But they did not represent the vast majority of the other guestworkers from ex-yu who fit in, worked hard, had families and friends. 

Today, most immigrants want the same. Work, fit in, raise a family and those small numbers of idiots among them should not define the rest.

The AFD does not make a difference between a hard working immigrant and a lazy drug dealing or whatever immigrant.

I am all for it, any immigrant that does not obey by german rules, deals with drugs, incites religious hatered in Germany,  should be deported. Every normal person, German or immigrant thinks like that. But no normal German thinks like the AFD and their supporters.

It is the same in the U.S.  And I remember when I was in Germany in the 70's we met some immigrant families and they were happy, hard working people, just like the imigrants I have met in the U.S. over the years.  Trump's handlers have an agenda and it is mainly to keep us divided and not communicating with each other thinking there is a war between democrats and republicans which only strengthens the democratic and republican parties and their corporate backers. 

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I guess Elon is more scared of Britain to Britons than of all the immigrants in Berlin. 7000 new jobs in Berlin. How many more Kebabs is this, asks Ali.

 

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