Setton Posted November 19, 2019 #401 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, bee said: no I haven't changed my tune and you seem to be just making stuff up.... for some reason... your reply doesn't even make sense Which bit are you struggling with? I'll try and simplify it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 19, 2019 Author #402 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Eldorado said: Some news... "Brexit Party under investigation for 'failing to hand over personal data' "An investigation into Nigel Farage's party has been launched by the Information Commissioner's Office." At Sky: https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-party-under-investigation-for-failing-to-hand-over-personal-data-11864790 usual shenanigans no doubt - the Brexit Party know they have to be squeaky clean because the Establishment and cohorts are ready to pounce on anything and everything - and inspection of the article from the Anti Brexit Sky News shows what it's all about..... collusion to try to damage the Farage and the Brexit Party.... re some tweets.... and 'weaponizing' the data protection law... However, some did suggest Subject Access Requests could be used to interfere with the Brexit Party's work. "European GDPR rules can be weaponised to stop political parties using our data to manipulate us," wrote one on 8 May. "If a thousand people demanded to see all their data, any organisation would be very busy, to say the least..." Under data protection law, an organisation does not have to respond to requests that are "manifestly unfounded or excessive". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 19, 2019 Author #403 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 hours ago, RabidMongoose said: The guy has spent his life out on the political fringes due to some pretty wacko policies. He is strong (I will give him that) because he has kept going despite a lot of grief from his MPs. But his policies will not do Britain any good. We need to keep our nuclear deterrent, we need a strong military to shape the world in our interests, and we need a dynamic innovative efficient and adaptable economy to maximise our wealth. The idealists like him, but we dont live in an ideal world. We have a scarcity of resources, we have enemies whether they be terrorists or state players, and we are in competition with every other country in our globalised markets. His brand of politics and economics will not work in this day and age. He is a dangerous fool. I'm not making a judgement one way or another on Corbyn himself and the Labour Party policies under his leadership.... just saying that if he had given strong support to leaving the EU properly he wouldn't be in danger of loosing large numbers of working class voters - but he's caught between a rock and a hard place really because the Labour Party is now more a party for Left leaning Middle Class Intelligentsia and they would favour remain so he has tried to do a juggling act and sit on the fence... as much as possible.. like.... leaving but not leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 19, 2019 Author #404 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Before I forget... for anyone who's interested... starts at 8pm... [apparently after loosing the legal challenge to be included in the debate Jo Swinson and Ian Blackford are planning to storm the stage and make a speech anyway... .... sorry I just made that up to add a bit of excitement to the whole thing..... ] Live from Salford in Greater Manchester, Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn go head to head in their first TV debate. Both will set out how they would break the political deadlock and heal a divided nation. The debate is moderated by Julie Etchingham. Immediately after the debate, stay watching for a special programme with reaction and analysis of the head-to-head. Edited November 19, 2019 by bee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted November 19, 2019 #405 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, bee said: Before I forget... for anyone who's interested... starts at 8pm... [apparently after loosing the legal challenge to be included in the debate Jo Swinson and Ian Blackford are planning to storm the stage and make a speech anyway... .... sorry I just made that up to add a bit of excitement to the whole thing..... ] Live from Salford in Greater Manchester, Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn go head to head in their first TV debate. Both will set out how they would break the political deadlock and heal a divided nation. The debate is moderated by Julie Etchingham. Immediately after the debate, stay watching for a special programme with reaction and analysis of the head-to-head. Quote Tories pretend to be factchecking service during leaders’ debate https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/19/tories-tweet-anti-labour-posts-under-factcheckuk-brand Just how desperate are the Tories? And how thick do they think people are? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted November 20, 2019 #406 Share Posted November 20, 2019 A Yougov poll on the ITV debate shows Boris with a narrow win with 51% saying he performed better and 49% for Corbyn. Other results - https://order-order.com/2019/11/19/yougov-boris-narrowly-wins-debate/#disqus_thread YouGov / Sky News Post debate scores Trustworthy Corbyn 45 Johnson 40 Prime ministerial Corbyn 29 Johnson 54 Likeable Corbyn 37 Johnson 54 In touch with ordinary people Corbyn 59 Johnson 25 1,646 GB adults who watched ITV debate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted November 20, 2019 #407 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Looking at the above numbers Labour will struggle to make inroads into the current Tory poll lead. Latest polls: Kantar: CON: 45% (+7) LAB: 27% (-) LDEM: 16% (-1) BREX: 2% (-7) YouGov: CON: 42% (-3 LAB: 30% (+2) LDEM: 15% (-) BREX: 4% (-) Survation preference for PM: Boris: 47% (+6) Corbyn: 16% (-2) Swinson: 15% (-6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 20, 2019 Author #408 Share Posted November 20, 2019 God... what can you say about last night.... Julie Etchingham.... Thank you Mr Johnson, Mr Johnson, thank you, thank you...... Boris keeps on talking... Julie Etchingham... Thank you Mr Corbyn, thank you, Mr Corbyn thank you.... Jeremy keeps on talking... x nearly every time they answered a question... to be honest I couldn't watch it all it was doing my head in.. Then the other prog at 10 with the other Leaders... Nicola Sturgeon is convinced that Scotland would still be an Independent country as a member of the EU... because if you went to France or Spain and asked people on the street if they were an independent country or not they would say.... of course we are.... like... yeah we get it....the public are kept in the dark as the EU Super State moves stealthily towards practically irreversible dominance / dictatorship... Jo Swinson has the persona of an over enthusiastic Head Girl at school... Nige did well and looked relaxed... it's noted that ITV put up a Crazy Nutter type photo of him at the beginning of his introduction... FFS... can't they just give us a break for a millisecond once in a while... Then I was too tired to listen to the Green representative...but I expect they went on about climate change and pollution a lot... (probably without mentioning China and India)....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 20, 2019 #409 Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, bee said: God... what can you say about last night.... Julie Etchingham.... Thank you Mr Johnson, Mr Johnson, thank you, thank you...... Boris keeps on talking... Julie Etchingham... Thank you Mr Corbyn, thank you, Mr Corbyn thank you.... Jeremy keeps on talking... x nearly every time they answered a question... to be honest I couldn't watch it all it was doing my head in.. Then the other prog at 10 with the other Leaders... Nicola Sturgeon is convinced that Scotland would still be an Independent country as a member of the EU... because if you went to France or Spain and asked people on the street if they were an independent country or not they would say.... of course we are.... like... yeah we get it....the public are kept in the dark as the EU Super State moves stealthily towards practically irreversible dominance / dictatorship... Jo Swinson has the persona of an over enthusiastic Head Girl at school... Nige did well and looked relaxed... it's noted that ITV put up a Crazy Nutter type photo of him at the beginning of his introduction... FFS... can't they just give us a break for a millisecond once in a while... Then I was too tired to listen to the Green representative...but I expect they went on about climate change and pollution a lot... (probably without mentioning China and India)....... Did anyone ask her about her husbands company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 20, 2019 #410 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Setton said: Just how desperate are the Tories? And how thick do they think people are? Not too desperate, they're riding high in the polls. Well they voted for Tony Blair twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 20, 2019 Author #411 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: Did anyone ask her about her husbands company? I think one of the audience tried to, but they were quickly tasered and we just saw their legs disappearing as they were dragged out of camera shot....... Edited November 20, 2019 by bee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 20, 2019 #412 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Im gonna chime in here are say that ever since Boris became PM, British politics has become boring and so has this sub-forum. Please bring back goofy silly Boris and get rid of pretend mature Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 20, 2019 #413 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Im gonna chime in here are say that ever since Boris became PM, British politics has become boring and so has this sub-forum. Please bring back goofy silly Boris and get rid of pretend mature Johnson. And yet, still a better option than Corbyn & :- I tried to find a picture of her with her mouth shut...no luck. Edited November 20, 2019 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 20, 2019 Author #414 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Im gonna chime in here are say that ever since Boris became PM, British politics has become boring and so has this sub-forum. Please bring back goofy silly Boris and get rid of pretend mature Johnson. yeah cus Theresa May was really interesting and exciting and even ran through a cornfield once when she was a girl.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 20, 2019 #415 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, bee said: yeah cus Theresa May was really interesting and exciting and even ran through a cornfield once when she was a girl.... She was as good at being PM as she was at dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 20, 2019 #416 Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: And yet, still a better option than Corbyn & :- I tried to find a picture of her with her mouth shut...no luck. What has what i wrote got anything to do with Corbyn ? Im talking about goofy, bad hair, naturally gifted dingbat Boris entertaining us all with his antics and half truths. I miss that alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 20, 2019 #417 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain Risky said: What has what i wrote got anything to do with Corbyn ? Im talking about goofy, bad hair, naturally gifted dingbat Boris entertaining us all with his antics and half truths. I miss that alright. Talking of half truths, what's your PM up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 20, 2019 #418 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, bee said: yeah cus Theresa May was really interesting and exciting and even ran through a cornfield once when she was a girl.... She did ? May wasn't interesting but Boris, and the rest of the ultra right wing nutters like Farage and whats his face the dude that looks like he should be wearing a brown shirt. They made British politics fun to comment on. Now its all boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted November 20, 2019 #419 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) Overall I had the Leaders Debate as a draw - not much worth talking about really Corbyn faired badly for not answering Brexit question and failed to attack Open goals and the 4 day week is not an instant seller. Boris poor on even if not properly challenged on the 'backstop' solution and trustworthiness, and did his usual rambling. PS Boris must not be allowed to talk at home..... Edited November 20, 2019 by RAyMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 20, 2019 #420 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, itsnotoutthere said: Talking of half truths, what's your PM up to these days? Don't get me started. What a knob he is. My country is run by party yes men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 20, 2019 #421 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: She did ? May wasn't interesting but Boris, and the rest of the ultra right wing nutters like Farage and whats his face the dude that looks like he should be wearing a brown shirt. They made British politics fun to comment on. Now its all boring. Looks like you've got your own 'ultra right wing nutter' to deal with back home. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-49887733 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 20, 2019 #422 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: What has what i wrote got anything to do with Corbyn ? Im talking about goofy, bad hair, naturally gifted dingbat Boris entertaining us all with his antics and half truths. I miss that alright. Well, the alternative to Boris (the only one that wants to honour the referendum vote) is a card carrying marxist with terrorist sympathies that wants to take us back to the 1970s & a woman whos husbands company was funded to the tune of 3,5million euros & mysteriously now wants to ignore the british public & cancel Brexit. Edited November 20, 2019 by itsnotoutthere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 20, 2019 Author #423 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, RAyMO said: Corbyn faired badly for not answering Brexit question he really has perfected the art of fence sitting when it comes to Brexit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 20, 2019 #424 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, itsnotoutthere said: Looks like you've got your own 'ultra right wing nutter' to deal with back home. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-49887733 Alexander Downer was at one time our foreign minister. The guy started the whole Mueller inquiry by having a drink with Trump aid George Papadopoulos and secretly recorded the conversation and passed it on to ASIO who then passed it on to American authorities starting off the Russian affair. So Trump wants revenge and asking our PM to get names and prolly twitter accounts so Trump can get even. Would i call Scott Morrison a right wing nutter ? No. But he is a Christian fundamentalist. Maybe that is the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 20, 2019 Author #425 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, RAyMO said: Boris poor on even if not properly challenged on the 'backstop' solution and trustworthiness, and did his usual rambling. "thank you Mr Johnson (ramble ramble) thank you thank you (ramble) thank you Mr Johnson thank you (ramble) thank you Mr Johnson, thank you... t h a n k y o u.... (r a m b l e) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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