itsnotoutthere Posted November 11, 2019 #251 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Yes, but Labour will fight back 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted November 11, 2019 #252 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Aaron2016 said: If we have several Brexit MPs elected, and Brexit is eventually delivered, will those MPs stand down, or will they switch parties and become Tories? (like the MPs who switched to Lib-Dem and Change UK?) Will this discourage Labour voters to vote for the Brexit party? They have good relations with the Tories and wear a blue rosette. Are they in essence a wing party to the Tories? While there is an EU, a political entity that is keen to have overarching control of nations and European decisions then the issue regarding the type of relationship UK has with the EU will never go away. Brussels will be looking for ways to pull the UK back, will be very inventive, and not worry about bending/breaking their own existing rules in able to do it. So the brexit party will have a full time job monitoring the EU and any proposed changes to the future UK/EU relationship. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 11, 2019 #253 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said: Brexit Party will not contest 317 Conservative-held seats at the General Election Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party will not stand in the 317 Conservative-held constituencies in the General Election, after previously saying the party would field candidates in 600 seats. Farage said he made the decision to strip back the party’s campaign due to Boris Johnson’s statement yesterday concerning the UK’s future relationship with the EU post-Brexit. Johnson said there would not be close political alignment with Brussels, and that he would not extend the Brexit transition period past December 2020. https://www.cityam.com/brexit-party-will-not-stand-in-317-conservative-held-seats-at-general-election/ A difficult decision for Farage but probably the only viable option and no electoral pact. So much for freedom of choice. Weren't the Brexit party supposed to be the alternative to the Tories for those who didn't want Labour nationalising everything? So now we've got no choice at all. Absolute stitch up. Exactly like the Democratic party with those who supported Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted November 11, 2019 #254 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, itsnotoutthere said: Yes, but Labour will fight back Behold our secret plan... 3 million more immigrants to make sure our proposed 2nd referendum results in remain! lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted November 11, 2019 #255 Share Posted November 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: So much for freedom of choice. Weren't the Brexit party supposed to be the alternative to the Tories for those who didn't want Labour nationalising everything? So now we've got no choice at all. Absolute stitch up. Exactly like the Democratic party with those who supported Bernie. I think that was UKIP, with the brexit party what they're mainly about is written on the tin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted November 11, 2019 #256 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, bee said: Claire Fox has lead the way with that... Interesting to see you're still backing that paedophile excusing, terrorist supporting communist. Says a lot about you as a person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 12, 2019 Author #257 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Setton said: Interesting to see you're still backing that paedophile excusing, terrorist supporting communist. Says a lot about you as a person. Ahh our little ray of sunshine is back The thing about Brexit is that it crosses traditional Party lines and the Right / Left Paradigm that is so beloved of the Elite who use it to divide and rule...and maintain the two party merry~go~round.. Listen to Claire Fox in the video below and learn... be not afraid....... Edited November 12, 2019 by bee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 12, 2019 #258 Share Posted November 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Setton said: Interesting to see you're still backing that paedophile excusing, terrorist supporting communist. Says a lot about you as a person. You're getting her con fused with Hariet Harman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 12, 2019 Author #259 Share Posted November 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: So much for freedom of choice. Weren't the Brexit party supposed to be the alternative to the Tories for those who didn't want Labour nationalising everything? So now we've got no choice at all. Absolute stitch up. Exactly like the Democratic party with those who supported Bernie. but I thought you said you were voting Labour (to spite RabidMongoose if I remember right ?) so how does that affect your choice... this alliance business is all the rage because at it's heart this GE is the EU Referendum Mark 2... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 12, 2019 #260 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Setton said: Interesting to see you're still backing that paedophile excusing, terrorist supporting communist. Says a lot about you as a person. No, thinking about it, isn't that Momentums minimum requirement for Labour leader. Edited November 12, 2019 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 12, 2019 #261 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Lib Dem candidate quits over racist and homophobic tweets A Liberal Democrat prospective parliamentary candidate has stood down after the emergence of a series of racist and homophobic tweets on Monday. Kevin McNamara apologised for the comments and will no longer contest the marginal Thurrock seat for the party. Well......I'm shocked. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/11/lib-dem-candidate-kevin-mcnamara-quits-over-racist-and-homophobic-tweets Edited November 12, 2019 by itsnotoutthere 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted November 12, 2019 #262 Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 hours ago, RabidMongoose said: Behold our secret plan... 3 million more immigrants to make sure our proposed 2nd referendum results in remain! lol Remember at Labours conference they voted for extending freedom of movement, close all detention centres, and reject any immigration system based on incomes. and give foreigners the right to vote. The chasm between Labour and its traditional voters grows ever wider. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 12, 2019 #263 Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, stevewinn said: Remember at Labours conference they voted for extending freedom of movement, close all detention centres, and reject any immigration system based on incomes. and give foreigners the right to vote. The chasm between Labour and its traditional voters grows ever wider. .. and wider. The Labour Conference passed a motion effectively condemning India, and calling for the people of Kashmir to have national self-determination... which would very likely cause them to declare independence from India. I guess they thought that identification with the poor downtrodden muslims of Kashmir would be an easy 'hit' on the conference floor. Oh dear.. and now a number of influential Hindu organisations in the UK are telling all their Indian expatriates NOT to vote for labour, but to vote for the Conservatives instead. Ooops. Never mind.... the Conference could always indulge in a rousing motion in support of the luverly luverly Palestinians, and condemning the nasty nasty Israel and Jews. Ooops... and now Jewish Associations around the UK are suggesting that voters boycot Labour, and vote for a different party. What goes around, comes around. They Labour Party are going to have to learn that "feel good" hot words in a conference can have wider implications. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted November 12, 2019 #264 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, itsnotoutthere said: Lib Dem candidate quits over racist and homophobic tweets A Liberal Democrat prospective parliamentary candidate has stood down after the emergence of a series of racist and homophobic tweets on Monday. Kevin McNamara apologised for the comments and will no longer contest the marginal Thurrock seat for the party. Well......I'm shocked. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/11/lib-dem-candidate-kevin-mcnamara-quits-over-racist-and-homophobic-tweets I don't know about racist or homophobic - but I assume these were made before he learned English? I don't have the faintest idea what he is saying. Which, I suppose, does nonetheless make him an idea candidate to be a government minister ..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted November 12, 2019 #265 Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 hours ago, bee said: The thing about Brexit is that it crosses traditional Party lines and the Right / Left Paradigm that is so beloved of the Elite who use it to divide and rule...and maintain the two party merry~go~round.. And does it cross the line between 'paedophilia is not ok' and 'paedophilia is ok'? 2 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: No, thinking about it, isn't that Momentums minimum requirement for Labour leader. Irrelevant but anyway, unless you have evidence of Corbyn supporting paedophiles, he's not quite as bad as Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted November 12, 2019 #266 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, RoofGardener said: .. and wider. The Labour Conference passed a motion effectively condemning India, and calling for the people of Kashmir to have national self-determination... which would very likely cause them to declare independence from India. I guess they thought that identification with the poor downtrodden muslims of Kashmir would be an easy 'hit' on the conference floor. Oh dear.. and now a number of influential Hindu organisations in the UK are telling all their Indian expatriates NOT to vote for labour, but to vote for the Conservatives instead. Ooops. Never mind.... the Conference could always indulge in a rousing motion in support of the luverly luverly Palestinians, and condemning the nasty nasty Israel and Jews. Ooops... and now Jewish Associations around the UK are suggesting that voters boycot Labour, and vote for a different party. What goes around, comes around. They Labour Party are going to have to learn that "feel good" hot words in a conference can have wider implications. A party putting what is right above its own self interest. No wonder the Tory base is confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 12, 2019 #267 Share Posted November 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, Setton said: A party putting what is right above its own self interest. No wonder the Tory base is confused. This particular party indulged in pompous "right on" empty-headed virtue signalling at its party conference, and seemingly only realising that people LISTEN to their vacuous speeches in the outside world, and that Words Have Consequences. They made cynical attempts to appeal to the "Muslim Vote", only to lose the Indian and Jewish votes as a consequence. Schadenfreude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 12, 2019 #268 Share Posted November 12, 2019 The BBC has apologised for mistakenly running an out-of-date clip of Boris Johnson laying a wreath. It said a production error led to BBC Breakfast showing images purporting to be the prime minister attending a Remembrance Day service on Sunday, when in fact the clip was from 2016. "This was a production mistake and we apologise for the error," the corporation said in a statement. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50374630 BBC up to their usual tricks. I'd expect nothing less. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 12, 2019 #269 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Setton said: And does it cross the line between 'paedophilia is not ok' and 'paedophilia is ok'? Irrelevant but anyway, unless you have evidence of Corbyn supporting paedophiles, he's not quite as bad as Fox. https://labour25.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted November 12, 2019 #270 Share Posted November 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: https://labour25.com If i had an afternoon spare to read about Labour paedophiles i wouldn't because it involves 2 of the most vile things i can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 12, 2019 #271 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, hetrodoxly said: If i had an afternoon spare to read about Labour paedophiles i wouldn't because it involves 2 of the most vile things i can think of. To be fair.....you'd never be able to read all that in one afternoon. The abridged version https://labour25.com/labour25/ Edited November 12, 2019 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted November 12, 2019 #272 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: To be fair.....you'd never be able to read all that in one afternoon. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 12, 2019 #273 Share Posted November 12, 2019 On the subject of treason, I'm sure you've heard, I don't have a link but I'm sure you could find one, about this report into R*ssian Interference in the Sacred Processes of British Democracy that the Conservative government are sitting on until after the election. Obviously this is because it proves that He* rigged the last election so the Conservatives won. Why, you might wonder, might this be, considering the conservatives' insane belligerence towards anything R*ssian? Well, it's obviously, as a political expert has explained, the same thinking as His* support of Tr*mp: by having a bumbling incompetent in power, and an administration that would bring about the breakup of the United Kingdom, weaken the European Union, and perhaps threaten the very existence of NATO, all of which would happen as a result of BREXIT, that would obviously be just what He* wants, wouldn't it. I'm grateful to @acute for explaining this. * P*tin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted November 12, 2019 #274 Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: The BBC has apologised for mistakenly running an out-of-date clip of Boris Johnson laying a wreath. It said a production error led to BBC Breakfast showing images purporting to be the prime minister attending a Remembrance Day service on Sunday, when in fact the clip was from 2016. "This was a production mistake and we apologise for the error," the corporation said in a statement. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50374630 BBC up to their usual tricks. I'd expect nothing less. So you have an issue with the BBC mistakenly using the wrong clip, which shows the exact same thing just at a different time. What do you think then of the Sun photoshopping a veteran out of a photo with Corbyn to claim he was dancing at remembrance day events? 3 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: https://labour25.com And has Corbyn supported these people since this came to light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted November 12, 2019 #275 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: The BBC has apologised for mistakenly running an out-of-date clip of Boris Johnson laying a wreath. It said a production error led to BBC Breakfast showing images purporting to be the prime minister attending a Remembrance Day service on Sunday, when in fact the clip was from 2016. "This was a production mistake and we apologise for the error," the corporation said in a statement. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50374630 BBC up to their usual tricks. I'd expect nothing less. Its time that this obnoxious NEUTRAL broadcasting service was sorted out , a bunch of cretins , that's why I don't watch anymore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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