bee Posted December 11, 2019 Author #701 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Not long to go now..... buckle up ..... It's the final countdown... Europe - The Final Countdown (Official Video) 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted December 11, 2019 #702 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Now whats this i heard on the radio today that Labour can still form government in a coalition ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quillius Posted December 11, 2019 #703 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 7:32 PM, RoofGardener said: Yeah, but our corporation tax is only about 60% of what it is in the USA or according to Diane Abbott its something like eleventeen percent..... 1 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 11, 2019 #704 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Well it's the big day tomorrow! I bet you all can't wait. It's your chance to legitimize Johnson';s seizure of power and he'll tear up the EU Rule Book! What will happen after that? Well, who cares. All that matters is Freedom. It doesn't matter if the government you vote in is a bunch of idiotic, blustering Colonel Blimps who believe that the only thing that matters is being Free ! No, wait, they do have a policy other than Tearing up the EU Rule Book don't they. They'll pour More Money into the NHS than Ever Before! 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 11, 2019 Author #705 Share Posted December 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Now whats this i heard on the radio today that Labour can still form government in a coalition ? I believe that's one of the possible outcomes... I honestly cannot guess with any confidence what's going to happen all I know is how I'm going to vote, which is Conservative because I am backing up the Referendum Result and if there is a Lab / LibDem / SNP coalition Brexit is lost... although if the Boris deal keeps us too close to Europe while losing influence in the EU decision making (such as it is)... it's still not really satisfactory... I would have liked to have voted for the Brexit Party and ''''changing politics for good''''.... but as this election is tactical I don't have a BP candidate .... The Remain Camp have nearly managed to wreck the democratic decision to Leave.... But they have to have Corbyn as PM to do it and they're not too happy about that (I'm estimating the majority are not happy about that....) Around half my friends will vote Con and half will vote Lab.... But where I live I'm pretty sure that the Con Candidate will win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Scooter Posted December 11, 2019 #706 Share Posted December 11, 2019 11 hours ago, bee said: Mahyar Tousi is still upbeat that the Conservative's are going to win... and talking about a Survation poll.. Labour Party In Meltdown As Corbyn Faces Wipeout In Election Every Brexiteer in the land needs to get out and vote tomorrow. We need a majority of at least 50. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Scooter Posted December 11, 2019 #707 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I dont think all the lying about the NHS being up for sale has had any impact on the polls because only people that want it to be true think it is. But I think the terrorist attack, the anti-Semitism, and the patients sleeping on the floor of hospitals might have had and impact. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted December 11, 2019 #708 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, bee said: I believe that's one of the possible outcomes... I honestly cannot guess with any confidence what's going to happen all I know is how I'm going to vote, which is Conservative because I am backing up the Referendum Result and if there is a Lab / LibDem / SNP coalition Brexit is lost... although if the Boris deal keeps us too close to Europe while losing influence in the EU decision making (such as it is)... it's still not really satisfactory... I would have liked to have voted for the Brexit Party and ''''changing politics for good''''.... but as this election is tactical I don't have a BP candidate .... The Remain Camp have nearly managed to wreck the democratic decision to Leave.... But they have to have Corbyn as PM to do it and they're not too happy about that (I'm estimating the majority are not happy about that....) Around half my friends will vote Con and half will vote Lab.... But where I live I'm pretty sure that the Con Candidate will win... Nothing surprises anymore about UK politics and more so, just how fickle the voters can be. People are indecisive when they're not sure on what to do. Both camps haven't any clue as far as I'm concerned and the electorate has picked up on it and any reasonable outcome is possible at this stage. All in all i don't think either side will be celebrating a new direction for Britain as much as a closing of a confusing and messy chapter. There's no guarantee of the narrative improving anyones life or that of the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 11, 2019 Author #709 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Nothing surprises anymore about UK politics and more so, just how fickle the voters can be. People are indecisive when they're not sure on what to do. Both camps haven't any clue as far as I'm concerned and the electorate has picked up on it and any reasonable outcome is possible at this stage. All in all i don't think either side will be celebrating a new direction for Britain as much as a closing of a confusing and messy chapter. There's no guarantee of the narrative improving anyones life or that of the nation. re bolded.... one thing I do know....on Friday the 13th life will more or less just go on as always let us contemplate the Zen Proverb... Before Enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water. 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 11, 2019 #710 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Tory victory with a commanding majority. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Scooter Posted December 11, 2019 #711 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, stevewinn said: Tory victory with a commanding majority. If we dont get at least a 50 seat majority I`m concerned we might have to settle for the Boris deal. I want the Hard-Brexit. Edited December 11, 2019 by RabidMongoose 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inn Spectre Posted December 11, 2019 #712 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 9:10 AM, RAyMO said: the DUP will not support a No Deal brexit going forward. As opposed to when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inn Spectre Posted December 11, 2019 #713 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said: If we dont get at least a 50 seat majority I`m concerned we might have to settle for the Boris deal. I want the Hard-Brexit. I don't think you understand what's going on. Boris will push his 'pretending to leave' deal no matter how big a majority he gets. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inn Spectre Posted December 11, 2019 #714 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Captain Risky said: People are indecisive when they're not sure on what to do. Classic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted December 11, 2019 #715 Share Posted December 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, stevewinn said: Tory victory with a commanding majority. We can but hope ! The BBC thismorning where predicting a Tory majority of just 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inn Spectre Posted December 11, 2019 #716 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Captain Risky said: Now whats this i heard on the radio today that Labour can still form government in a coalition ? Thankfully that's just hypothetical. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted December 11, 2019 #717 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just to put my prediction out there to see if I'm right tomorrow, I'm going with either a very small Tory majority or a very small labour coalition. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quillius Posted December 11, 2019 #718 Share Posted December 11, 2019 i have my money on 370 seats +....... that was the shortest price.... the bookies are generally the wisest and rarely get it too far wrong 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Scooter Posted December 11, 2019 #719 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Has anybody seen the disgusting YouTube Advert yet. It starts off going on about how Boris has won a landslide majority, then Brexit gets implemented, then it starts to turn with Trump wanting to buy the NHS and ends with we can all vote for progressive parties tomorrow to block Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 11, 2019 #720 Share Posted December 11, 2019 If someone could explain to me please why Brexit is the only thing that matters, and explain to me how after Brexit everything will be so much happier? It sees that everyone's so fanatical about Brexit that they really don't care about what plans or policies the Government may have, beyond vague shouting from the rival Party Leaders that they'll pour more billions into the NHS than the other lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 11, 2019 #721 Share Posted December 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said: Has anybody seen the disgusting YouTube Advert yet. It starts off going on about how Boris has won a landslide majority, then Brexit gets implemented, then it starts to turn with Trump wanting to buy the NHS and ends with we can all vote for progressive parties tomorrow to block Brexit. is this the same disgusting Youtube that had big banner ads saying "VOTE CONSERVATIVE"? Yes, disgusting that they should allow any other propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 11, 2019 #722 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 hours ago, RoofGardener said: We can but hope ! The BBC thismorning where predicting a Tory majority of just 28 why? What do you look forward to Johnson delivering, apart from Brexit, and saying that he'll pour more millions than ever before into the NHS? I really would like some concrete answers as to why a Conservative government will bring about a happier tomorrow. Mere propaganda about Jeremy "Jezzer" Corbyn being a Communist and/or a terrorist sympathizer and/or wanting to eradicate the Jew isn't enough I'm afraid; I want persuasive arguments as to why the conservatives will make Britain great again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted December 11, 2019 #723 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Ex-Labour Activist Reveals Depravity of Corbyn's Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfCFbyeyjOQ 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Scooter Posted December 11, 2019 #724 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: If someone could explain to me please why Brexit is the only thing that matters, and explain to me how after Brexit everything will be so much happier? It sees that everyone's so fanatical about Brexit that they really don't care about what plans or policies the Government may have, beyond vague shouting from the rival Party Leaders that they'll pour more billions into the NHS than the other lot. As an outsider you might not get the feeling behind Brexit. For us its about the future of our country. The majority of the UK public has wanted out of the EU for 30 years and we only recently got a referendum over it. This is our chance, our chance to wriggle out of it. And the first step in turning back the clock to make Britain great again. Edited December 11, 2019 by RabidMongoose 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted December 11, 2019 #725 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, quillius said: i have my money on 370 seats +....... that was the shortest price.... the bookies are generally the wisest and rarely get it too far wrong I am still thinking a majority somewhere between 15 and 30 will be in the ball park. I dare say if Boris was offered that today he would bank it Having said that I think there is more room for an improvement on that result than less seats. This looks like the last individual poll before election day. - 11 Dec - Opinium - Con 45%, Lab 33%, LD 12%, BRX 2% And new poll of polls from Electoral Calculus, which has hardly changed from the last one. Current Prediction: Conservative majority 46 Party 2017 Votes 2017 Seats Pred Votes Low Seats Pred Seats High Seats CON 43.5% 318 43.4% 304 348 396 LAB 41.0% 262 34.3% 180 227 266 LIB 7.6% 12 12.1% 13 13 29 Brexit 0.0% 0 3.1% 0 0 1 Green 1.7% 1 2.3% 0 1 1 SNP 3.1% 35 3.5% 27 41 43 https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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