Matt221 Posted December 12, 2019 #776 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted December 12, 2019 #777 Share Posted December 12, 2019 My polling station was doing brisk business when I voted earlier, which is slightly unusual. The weather does not seem to be putting many folks off here in Sir Bill Cash's constituency. After what I thought was the final poll there was another from Ipsos MORI. so the final, final, independent poll result was Tories on 44% and Labour on 33%, while the Liberal Democrats, according to the poll results, are on course to secure 12% of the vote and Brexit Party 2%. The recent polls seem to show the Brexit party vote almost completely wiped out. https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/uk-election-2019-final-poll-predicts-victory-for-boris-but-one-in-four-voters-still-wavering-38777471.html For those of a certain age - Anything can happen in the next ..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt221 Posted December 12, 2019 #778 Share Posted December 12, 2019 plenty of people voting round our local polling station for the first time for a few elections people were actually queing up to vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 12, 2019 #779 Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Matt221 said: plenty of people voting round our local polling station for the first time for a few elections people were actually queing up to vote Watch the Brexit Party do really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted December 12, 2019 #780 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, bee said: I've never seen a Sausage Sizzle Booth...... Burger and Hot Dog food wagons yes.... if that's the same...? 6 hours ago, RoofGardener said: Sadly, my cottage is not equipped with a booth ? I suppose I could sizzle them in my polytunnel ? http://garden-friends.co.uk/thread/4828/roofgardener-2019-earth?page=6&scrollTo=174889 (scroll down a couple of pictures to see polytunnel). By both, I meant polling station. We have the 'democracy sausage' cooking on the BBQ at the places you vote. It's a good thing because voting is on a Saturday after Friday night. Ps. That's a nice garden for a bbq. Edited December 12, 2019 by Golden Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 12, 2019 #781 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Widespread reports of an unusually high voter turnout so far today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 12, 2019 #782 Share Posted December 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said: Widespread reports of an unusually high voter turnout so far today. same here, just got back myself and was going to report a high turnout, which i thought might be localised but as i've read on here its nationwide. Its the first time ever i've queued at the polling station. In work to day when i was giving our morning group meeting i was the only one out of 24 people who WASNT voting Labour. this is to be expected here in Liverpool, but what did get me thinking is 22 out the 24 voted Leave previously. It did fill me with a ounce of doubt that maybe Labour could win this. oh sheet, as Mr Arnold said, hold on to your butts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted December 12, 2019 #783 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) A small increase in the Tory majority compared to the last poll of polls from Electoral Calculus. General Election Prediction Current Prediction: Conservative majority 52 Party 2017 Votes 2017 Seats Pred Votes Low Seats Pred Seats High Seats CON 43.5% 318 43.3% 307 351 398 LAB 41.0% 262 33.9% 178 224 264 LIB 7.6% 12 11.7% 12 13 28 Brexit 0.0% 0 3.2% 0 0 1 Green 1.7% 1 2.7% 0 1 1 SNP 3.1% 35 3.6% 28 41 44 How close will this estimate be ? Edited December 12, 2019 by L.A.T.1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted December 12, 2019 #784 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Went to vote today. PENCILS were the only thing out. Apparently its standard. Well not for me cos I got my PEN out. Whats with the voting in pencil? You can not sign a cheque or any forms in pencil but they want you to make your vote in pencil?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 12, 2019 #785 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, stevewinn said: same here, just got back myself and was going to report a high turnout, which i thought might be localised but as i've read on here its nationwide. Its the first time ever i've queued at the polling station. In work to day when i was giving our morning group meeting i was the only one out of 24 people who WASNT voting Labour. this is to be expected here in Liverpool, but what did get me thinking is 22 out the 24 voted Leave previously. It did fill me with a ounce of doubt that maybe Labour could win this. oh sheet, as Mr Arnold said, hold on to your butts. I have a deep suspicion that Corbyn is being handed a kick-in. People want Brexit finished with due to the instability its caused over the last 3 years. Edited December 12, 2019 by RabidMongoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 12, 2019 #786 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Where I work I`m the only one who voted for Brexit. But strangely 65% of my area voted for it, so I suspect most of them are lying. Due to the really bad attitude of many of those who want to remain in the EU I think many of my work colleagues just kept their mouths shut about really voting to leave lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 12, 2019 #787 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, freetoroam said: Went to vote today. PENCILS were the only thing out. Apparently its standard. Well not for me cos I got my PEN out. Whats with the voting in pencil? You can not sign a cheque or any forms in pencil but they want you to make your vote in pencil?? the reason i was told by the clerk some years ago was that elections take place on average every 5 years, so with not being used regularly the ink in most pens would dry out, with a pencil you don't have such issues. someone at my polling station had put pens out, i suspect it was a member of the public as the pens where all random types. 2 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said: I have a deep suspicion that Corbyn is being handed a kick-in. People want Brexit finished with due to the instability its caused over the last 3 years. i hope so my friend i hope so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted December 12, 2019 #788 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, stevewinn said: the reason i was told by the clerk some years ago was that elections take place on average every 5 years, so with not being used regularly the ink in most pens would dry out, with a pencil you don't have such issues. Tbe pencils today looked brand new, not 5 years old. Likely imported from China. 5 stars though for that utter piece of bs from the clerk. With the amount of taxes we pay, they could easily buy new pens, like they bought new pencils. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 12, 2019 #789 Share Posted December 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, freetoroam said: Tbe pencils today looked brand new, not 5 years old. Likely imported from China. 5 stars though for that utter piece of bs from the clerk. With the amount of taxes we pay, they could easily buy new pens, like they bought new pencils. i thought the same, but seeing as the clerk was an old girl, and volunteering i just politely nodded, with a hmm right. The pencils at my polling station were new also. just googled why they use pencils. apparently - Pencils are used to mark ballot papers for practical reasons: ink may dry or spill, or could smudge and transfer when the ballot paper is folded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted December 12, 2019 #790 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, stevewinn said: just googled why they use pencils. apparently - Pencils are used to mark ballot papers for practical reasons: ink may dry or spill, or could smudge and transfer when the ballot paper is folded. I think that was in the old days when they used fountain pens and quills.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 12, 2019 #791 Share Posted December 12, 2019 "It's been dubbed the most importnat election in a generation", says a paper today. Who's dubbed it that, and why? About the best that could be hoped ofr (assuming than one wishes for Brexit) is that Joris Bohnson will now have enough loyal Members that they won't endlessly repeat the same old rigmarole of voting and rejecting and voting and rejecting and rejecting and voting and rejecting some more. It doesn't mean that Brexit will automatically happen. So why all the big fuss? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted December 12, 2019 #792 Share Posted December 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, stevewinn said: i thought the same, but seeing as the clerk was an old girl, and volunteering i just politely nodded, with a hmm right. The pencils at my polling station were new also. just googled why they use pencils. apparently - Pencils are used to mark ballot papers for practical reasons: ink may dry or spill, or could smudge and transfer when the ballot paper is folded. To be clear you get paid for polling duty and also get paid for job you would normally be doing also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted December 12, 2019 #793 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: "It's been dubbed the most importnat election in a generation", says a paper today. Who's dubbed it that, and why? About the best that could be hoped ofr (assuming than one wishes for Brexit) is that Joris Bohnson will now have enough loyal Members that they won't endlessly repeat the same old rigmarole of voting and rejecting and voting and rejecting and rejecting and voting and rejecting some more. It doesn't mean that Brexit will automatically happen. So why all the big fuss? Its not just about Brexit, if you compare the Major/ Blair manifestos, or the Cameron /Miliband, then the Boris/ Corbyn choice has a much bigger shift in policy direction. Boris continues much as before while Corbyn nationalises large parts of the economy, goes on a huge borrowing spree and makes big tax changes. There has not been such a big divergence in policy for a generation. Edited December 12, 2019 by L.A.T.1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted December 12, 2019 #794 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: Its not just about Brexit, if you compare the Major/ Blair manifestos, or the Cameron /Miliband, then the Boris/ Corbyn choice has a much bigger shift in policy direction. Boris continues much as before while Corbyn nationalises large parts of the economy, goes on a huge borrowing spree and makes big tax changes. There has not been such a big divergence in policy for a generation. What's Corbyn want to nationalize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 12, 2019 #795 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, L.A.T.1961 said: Its not just about Brexit, if you comparer the Major/ Blair manifestos, or the Cameron /Miliband, then the Boris/ Corbyn choice has a much bigger shift in policy direction. Boris continues much as before So you believe that somehow, Boris will magically acquire competence and his government the ability to competently run the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted December 12, 2019 #796 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: What's Corbyn want to nationalize? Corbyn says he'll nationalise mail, rail, water and energy. https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/21/jeremy-corbyn-says-hell-nationalise-mail-rail-water-energy-manifesto-launch-11194398/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted December 12, 2019 #797 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: So you believe that somehow, Boris will magically acquire competence and his government the ability to competently run the country? I don't think it will change much under Boris while Corbyn is playing a high stakes game and his brand of economics are not supported. Watch the money markets tonight as the results come in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted December 12, 2019 #798 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I went to my Polling Station at the local Methodist Church. I asked them whether it bad been busty (e.g. high turnout). They said it had. But then went back to knitting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted December 12, 2019 #799 Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: Corbyn says he'll nationalise mail, rail, water and energy. https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/21/jeremy-corbyn-says-hell-nationalise-mail-rail-water-energy-manifesto-launch-11194398/ Dont' forget the broadband industry Which is impossible. But what the heck..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted December 12, 2019 #800 Share Posted December 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: Dont' forget the broadband industry Which is impossible. But what the heck..... Hmmm......and his biggest backers are the unions......recipe for disaster if even there was one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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